Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@Nov 1 2017, 03:24 PM


For comparison's sake, I would need 742 TPE to be at the same attributes that I had my rookie season where I scored 28 points as a defenseman. Compared to 405 that I did have my rookie season. That's a huge disparity, and compared to the players who are at the maximum in a lot of aspects in the league it puts me at an even bigger disadvantage because I can't even get close to what I was.

Yes, there are assuredly examples of individuals who succeed in a given season despite being low TPE players. But is that being shown in the player base? Are we seeing more, fewer, or the same amount of players in the SHL as we did a year or two ago? Is this double-shifting problem as big of a problem to the SHL as a whole as some would argue?

Just looking at the Top-10 in Rookie scoring and their TPE totals, there are three people with less than 600 TPE (#2, #9 and #10) while the rest hovers around 800 TPE with one being close to 1000 TPE. So yeah these numbers are definitely higher than they were in the past, I guess you will argue it is because of the update scale and I will argue that it is because of double-shifting.

So let's look back a bit to try and clear that up. It's pretty tough to determine TPE-numbers retroactively but i took a quick look back at S34, which was three seasons ago so already way into the new update scale, but right before the league-wide double-shifting started, and the names I see up at the rookie leaderboard are ones that I recall being lower in TPE than the people were are seeing in that category today. The Top-2 are Halfdan Thorstein who was 550 TPE towards the end of the season and Tommy Salami who even today is just a 638 TPE inactive. In 3rd we have Cory Knouse who was around 750 TPE back then and 4th is Tord Yvel, now a 606 TPE inactive. So the entire Top-4 was sub-800 TPE with three of them not even cracking 650 TPE.

This seasons Top-4 on the other hand has one player at 974, one at 864 and one at 797, so these three alone are higher than everyone in S34, and there are a bunch of other 800 TPE players in the rest of this years Top-10. This undeniably shows that todays rookie TPE numbers are significantly higher than they were just a few seasons seasons ago. And the update scale is not what changed in the meantime. What changed are the line-strats.

The rookies production as a whole hasn't decreased at all by the way, it's about the same as it was in the S28-S31 era, which were the earliest JY seasons. There then was a spike in S32 and S33 as the huge S31 class started to hit the league, but after that it went right back to the S28-31 levels and has stayed there since.