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DeletedAtUserRequest · 08-23-2018, 01:56 PM

08-23-2018, 01:50 PMGrapehead Wrote:
08-23-2018, 01:33 PMJustice Wrote: Just to add onto my previous point, I don't want anyone to be barred from PbP's after one rough one in their rookie season because they just didn't know. Let's keep it to people who we feel like were explicitly negligent to what they knew would be their responsibility.

Can you give me an example of a bad PBP for reference? I know they happen, just curious which fall into that category in your opinion.

http://simulationhockey.com/showthread.php?tid=84216

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Grapehead · 08-23-2018, 02:20 PM

08-23-2018, 01:56 PMMike Izzy Wrote:
08-23-2018, 01:50 PMGrapehead Wrote:
08-23-2018, 01:33 PMJustice Wrote: Just to add onto my previous point, I don't want anyone to be barred from PbP's after one rough one in their rookie season because they just didn't know. Let's keep it to people who we feel like were explicitly negligent to what they knew would be their responsibility.

Can you give me an example of a bad PBP for reference? I know they happen, just curious which fall into that category in your opinion.

http://simulationhockey.com/showthread.php?tid=84216

jfc

caltroit_red_flames · 08-23-2018, 02:22 PM

08-23-2018, 01:56 PMMike Izzy Wrote:
08-23-2018, 01:50 PMGrapehead Wrote:
08-23-2018, 01:33 PMJustice Wrote: Just to add onto my previous point, I don't want anyone to be barred from PbP's after one rough one in their rookie season because they just didn't know. Let's keep it to people who we feel like were explicitly negligent to what they knew would be their responsibility.

Can you give me an example of a bad PBP for reference? I know they happen, just curious which fall into that category in your opinion.

http://simulationhockey.com/showthread.php?tid=84216

Also there was one where I think @Dude only posted the box score for each period or something like (sorry Dude if that wasn't you), but you get the gist

**.bojo** · 08-23-2018, 02:24 PM

idk man, Poldark is actually a good show. PBS is really stepping up their game imo

Beaver · 08-23-2018, 03:04 PM

A big problem with improving PBPs is that even among the people who like them (as I do) there's so much fracturing about what constitutes a "good" PBP. I know a lot of people love the super fast PBPs that are just a few posts (or just 1) per period while others (such as me) like the slower ones that establish a nice rhythm. As a result there's not much agreement on what improvement would look like.

It's also really hard to incentivize people to spend time doing a good job without making it so lucrative that people feel compelled to do them to keep up in TPE.

I don't envy the predicament that Er's in.

***CaptainCrazy*** · 08-23-2018, 03:20 PM

OMG, I didn't know that you are giving TPEs for doing PBP. I don't think that it is correct because my English isn't very good and I can't those PBPs so I lose some TPEs

Evok · 08-23-2018, 04:44 PM

What if we streamed our matches in OOTP since we are on the way to merge everything across SHL-PBE-NSFL. We could even ask them to play with a football.

Dude · 08-23-2018, 07:07 PM

08-23-2018, 02:22 PMcaltroit_red_flames Wrote:
08-23-2018, 01:56 PMMike Izzy Wrote:
08-23-2018, 01:50 PMGrapehead Wrote:
08-23-2018, 01:33 PMJustice Wrote: Just to add onto my previous point, I don't want anyone to be barred from PbP's after one rough one in their rookie season because they just didn't know. Let's keep it to people who we feel like were explicitly negligent to what they knew would be their responsibility.

Can you give me an example of a bad PBP for reference? I know they happen, just curious which fall into that category in your opinion.

http://simulationhockey.com/showthread.php?tid=84216

Also there was one where I think @Dude only posted the box score for each period or something like (sorry Dude if that wasn't you), but you get the gist

It wasn't JUST the scoresheet, but it was still bad Wink

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kit · 08-23-2018, 11:22 PM

keep pbe's but they give no tpe and we have pbe graders who give them some amount of money

Justice · 08-24-2018, 12:03 AM

08-23-2018, 11:22 PMkit Wrote: keep pbe's but they give no tpe and we have pbe graders who give them some amount of money

Exactly what I was thinking. Very good point

Andy · 08-24-2018, 12:12 AM

08-23-2018, 04:44 PMEvok Wrote: What if we streamed our matches in OOTP since we are on the way to merge everything across SHL-PBE-NSFL. We could even ask them to play with a football.

Easy, done.

jRuutu · 08-24-2018, 05:33 AM

Could be worth it to look into the possibility of allowing users to use PBP they have done in some other league again on SHL? Just because it´s done in some other league, does not mean work has not gone into it.

If you don´t like the fact that they are from baseball or football leagues, you don´t have to read them.

ztevans · 08-24-2018, 07:52 AM

08-24-2018, 05:33 AMjRuutu Wrote: Could be worth it to look into the possibility of allowing users to use PBP they have done in some other league again on SHL? Just because it´s done in some other league, does not mean work has not gone into it.

If you don´t like the fact that they are from baseball or football leagues, you don´t have to read them.

Those other leagues don't have PbPs because they use sims where you can actually stream the game as it happens and get more than a text output of the result. Joke kinda falls flat, but your persistence is admirable! (I guess)

***Tomen*** · 08-24-2018, 08:07 AM

My point is that you shouldn't get TPE for PbP's just a money reward. That way less people feel pressured to do them which should increase the overall quality of a PbP but that is kinda hard to measure since that is rather subjective. With PbP's only giving money people who actually want to do them and enjoy them get to do them.

Just my 0.02 coz I felt pressured to do them to keep up in the TPE race back then but didn't enjoy them + in the past they slowed down playoffs but that is no longer an issue ( thank god for that).

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jRuutu · 08-24-2018, 08:31 AM

08-24-2018, 07:52 AMztevans Wrote:
08-24-2018, 05:33 AMjRuutu Wrote: Could be worth it to look into the possibility of allowing users to use PBP they have done in some other league again on SHL? Just because it´s done in some other league, does not mean work has not gone into it.

If you don´t like the fact that they are from baseball or football leagues, you don´t have to read them.

Those other leagues don't have PbPs because they use sims where you can actually stream the game as it happens and get more than a text output of the result. Joke kinda falls flat, but your persistence is admirable! (I guess)

No wonder SHL teamed up with them, SHL is miles behind already

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