Claiming that everyone who doesn't blindly believe in test sims doesn't know about statistics

Don't put words in my mouth

Saying you don't believe it test sims is saying you don't believe in statistics.

Evan Winter
Edmonton Blizzard
Player Page - Update Page

Oh the test sim vs no test sim argument, I'm actually talking about that in my podcast today. (I talked about it yesterday when I tried to record and my phone froze)

As for gfridge's sim, I think he put it on the back burner before his life got too busy because it seemed unlikely that HO would want to switch sim engines at the time. It still needed a ton of work though, it was far from a complete product.

FHM5 does look interesting and maybe it would be viable for a sim league like this, I'm just not sure how much of an appetite the SHL would have for changing so completely, it would mean a new update scale, new player builds, and much more.

Luc Blouin || RD || Philly Forge || PEAK TPE 2011
Age: 27
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 225 lbs
Number: 42
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Career Stats:
S56 VAN(Jr) GP: 4 G: 0 A: 0 P: 0 +/-: +2 PIM: 0 HIT: 3
S57 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 6 A: 21 P: 27 +/-: -6 PIM: 28 HIT: 37
S58 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 6 A: 24 P: 30 +/-: +30 PIM: 30 HIT: 16
S59 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 8 A: 25 P: 33 +/-: +19 PIM: 18 HIT: 52
S60 DET/VAN(Jr) GP: 66 G: 9 A: 26 P: 35 +/-: +25 PIM: 14 HIT: 46
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Transactions:
S56: Signed as a Draftee Free Agent by the Vancouver Whalers
S57: Drafted 2nd Overall by the Detroit Falcons
S58: Drafted 1st Overall by the Tampa Bay Barracuda
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Awards:
S56: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S57: WJC Silver Metal (Team Sweden)
S59: Zach Miller Trophy (Most Dedicated SMJHL)
S59: Alexis Metzler Trophy (Best Defensive Defenseman SMJHL)
S59: WJC Bronze Medal (Team World)


Robert Phelps || C || Hamilton Steelhawks || Retired
Age: Old
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 210 lbs
Number: 52
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Career Stats:
S34 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 10 A: 22 P: 32 +/-: -17 PIM: 29 HIT: 63
S35 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 11 A: 28 P: 39 +/-: 20 PIM: 39 HIT: 76
S36 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 11 A: 26 P: 37 +/-: -3 PIM: 59 HIT: 85
S37 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 26 P: 44 +/-: -7 PIM: 29 HIT: 36
S38 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 30 P: 44 +/-: 7 PIM: 0 HIT: 17
S39 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 27 P: 45 +/-: 16 PIM: 40 HIT: 27
S40 HAM GP: 50 G: 10 A: 33 P: 43 +/-: 9 PIM: 10 HIT: 49
S41 HAM GP: 50 G: 22 A: 36 P: 58 +/-: 15 PIM: 19 HIT: 62
S42 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 28 P: 42 +/-: 8 PIM: 34 HIT: 100
S43 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 29 P: 52 +/-: 3 PIM: 50 HIT: 96
S44 HAM GP: 50 G: 16 A: 30 P: 46 +/-: -7 PIM: 14 HIT: 73
S45 HAM GP: 50 G: 21 A: 27 P: 48 +/-: 5 PIM: 24 HIT: 140
S46 HAM GP: 50 G: 21 A: 32 P: 53 +/-: 16 PIM: 33 HIT: 159
S47 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 21 P: 44 +/-: 2 PIM: 30 HIT: 114
S48 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 27 P: 45 +/-: -7 PIM: 34 HIT: 159
S49 HAM GP: 50 G: 19 A: 32 P: 51 +/-: -2 PIM: 53 HIT: 155
S50 HAM GP: 50 G: 20 A: 35 P: 55 +/-: 10 PIM: 14 HIT: 88
S51 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 37 P: 60 +/-: 13 PIM: 50 HIT: 86
S52 HAM GP: 50 G: 17 A: 32 P: 49 +/-: 18 PIM: 27 HIT: 56
S53 HAM GP: 50 G: 25 A: 37 P: 62 +/-: 37 PIM: 26 HIT: 47
S54 HAM GP: 50 G: 33 A: 32 P: 65 +/-: 35 PIM: 12 HIT: 60
S55 HAM GP: 50 G: 22 A: 21 P: 43 +/-: 25 PIM: 31 HIT: 26
S56 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 25 P: 39 +/-: 35 PIM: 4 HIT: 36
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Transactions:
S34: Drafted 1st in the SMJHL Draft by Vancouver Whalers
S34: Awarded the position of Alternate Captain for VAN
S35: Drafted 1st in the SHL Draft by Hamilton Steelhawks
S38: Awarded the position of Alternate Captain for HAM
S39: Awarded the position of Captain for HAM
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Awards:
S34: Zach Milller Trophy (Most Dedicated SMJHL)
S35: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S35: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S37: Ryan Jesster Trophy (SHL Rookie of the Year)
S37: Rookie Team All-Star
S38: IIHF Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S39: President's Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S39: IIHF Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S41: Damien Littleton Award (Most Dedicated SHL)
S42: President's Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S42: IIHF Silver Medal (Team Canada)
S50: IIHF Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S50: 2nd Team All-Star
S51: 2nd Team All-Star
S51: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S51: Challenge Cup Champion (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S53: 2nd Team All-Star
S53: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S53: Challenge Cup Champion (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S54: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S54: IIHF Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S54: 3rd Team All-Star


Teddy Phelps || Former GM || Hamilton / Vancouver / Canada
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Transactions:
S35: Hired as Adviser for the Vancouver Whalers
S35: Hired as Federation Head of Team Canada
S36: Hired as Co-GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S37: Hired as GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S40: Stepped down as Head of Team Canada
S42: Stepped down as GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S42: Hired as GM of the Hamilton Steelhawks
S45: Stepped down as GM of the Hamilton Steelhawks
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Awards:
S35: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S35: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S38: Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S39: Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S39: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S41: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S41: Mathias Chouinard Award (Top SMJHL GM)
S42: Lance Uppercut Award (Top SHL GM)

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Don't put words in my mouth

Saying you don't believe it test sims is saying you don't believe in statistics.

Oof. Yeah that looks worse than I meant it to in hindsight ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Cal Juice
Tomas Zadina
Brady McIntyre

The problem with FHM is that the game crashes if you edit players too much

2300 hours is a lot of development time. Senior developers cost a lot of money. At market rates a developer will want $50-100 per real hour to do quality freelance contract work. Just to give y'all an idea of what this would actually cost.

Getting a project like this done cheaply would require a developer doing it as a pet project. That takes time, lots of it.

Cedric's Trophy Case
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SHL Hall of Fame
Class of Season 63
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S46 Challenge Cup
12-4-1 | 0.906 SV% | 2.68 GAA
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S48 Challenge Cup
16-4-2 | 0.921 SV% | 2.45 GAA
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2x IIHF Gold (S47, S52)
2x IIHF Silver (S46, S49)
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All-Star Teams
S46 All Rookie Team
2x 2nd Team (S46, S50)
2x 3rd Team (S48, S49)
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SHL Awards
Mike Honcho Award (S50)
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SHL Nominations
Ryan Jesster Nomination (S46)
3x John McBride Nominations (S49, S50, S53)
Anton Razov Nomination (S48)
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SMJHL Career Season Wins
99 (T-1st STHS Era)
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Detroit Falcons Career Season Wins
99 (1st STHS Era)
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Laurifer Trophy - 2 Wins
S43, S44 (as Player)
S44 (as GM)
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S42 WJC Gold (USA)
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Tom Corcoran Trophy - 3 Wins
S42, S44, S45
Nominated S43
Most Tom Corcoran Trophies, Single Career (3)
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Raymond Lindsay Trophy - 1 Win
S44
Nominated S42
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Esa Anrikkanen Trophy
Nominated S42
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Ideen Fallah Trophy
Nominated S44

Dee's Trophy Case
The hell are you lookin at?
Kick rocks, punk

Oof. Yeah that looks worse than I meant it to in hindsight ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Haha no worries, it happens

Evan Winter
Edmonton Blizzard
Player Page - Update Page

Well ain't this great timing.
I've mentioned this to a few people but there's a chance I might be working on a new sim engine for my uni project. If that does happen I'll definitely be looking to involve everyone in the design of it.

Bob Bergen|| #22 || D || Toronto North Stars || Detroit Falcons
Name: Bob Bergen
Age: 20
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 220 lbs
Number: 22
Born: Cambridge, England
S38 SMJHL DRAFT - 41st OA - DETROIT FALCONS
S39 SHL DRAFT - 6th OA - TORONTO NORTH STARS
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SMJHL STATS
S38 || GP 50 || G 1 || A 21 || P 22 || +/- 8 || PIM 38 || H 77 || SB 45
S38 PLAYOFFS || GP 6 || G 0 || A 6 || P 6 || +/-  1 || PIM  14 || H 23 || SB 12
S39 || GP 50 || G 7 || A 26 || P 33 || +/- 6 || PIM 50 || H 69 || SB 62
S40 || GP 50 || G 17 || A 22 || P 38 || +/- -7 || PIM 62 || H 88 || SB 67
S40 PLAYOFFS || GP 15 || G 2 || A 11 || P 13||  +/- 2 || PIM 12 || H 26 || SB 20
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SHL STATS
S41 || GP 50 || G 14 || A 22 || P 36 || +/- -7 || PIM 10 || H 40 || SB 74
S42 || GP 50 || G 10 || A 24 || P 34 || +/- -19 || PIM 16 || H 45 || SB 59
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S40 MOST GOALS FOR A FALCONS DEFENSMAN
S40 MOST POWERPLAY POINTS FOR THE FALCONS
S40 NOMINATED BEST DEFENSEMAN SMJHL
S41 NOMINATED BEST SHL ROOKIE



Team UK IIHF GM S38 - S48    
S41 IIHF Champions
S40 IIHF Runners-Up
S39 4th Place
S38 Quarter Finalists


Toronto North Stars GM S42 - S48                                                                                       



S40 Team British Isles WJC GM
S39 Team Europe West WJC GM
S38 Team British Isles WJC GM

Player Page
Player Updates
SMJHL Commissioner , SMJHL Awards Head, Banker (NEW/WKP), Rookie Mentor

yay

Well ain't this great timing.
I've mentioned this to a few people but there's a chance I might be working on a new sim engine for my uni project. If that does happen I'll definitely be looking to involve everyone in the design of it.

HMU if you want some help. I'd much rather work on this than web forms!

Cal Juice
Tomas Zadina
Brady McIntyre

someone move this thread to the trash bin please

someone move this thread to the trash bin please

Shut up Simon!

Mephistopheles Morgonstjärna | Right Defense | Detroit Falcons
Birthplace: Leipzig, Germany
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 235 lbs
Number: 66


RETIRED

Hippo Passamus | Center/Wing | Buffalo Stampede
Birthplace: Borås, Sweden
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 290 lbs
Number: 6
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Career Statistics:
SHL Regular Season:
BUF | S46 | 50 GP | 13 G | 12 A | 25 P | +21 |   0 PIM | 9 H
BUF | S47 | 50 GP | 9 G   | 21 A | 30 P | +0   |  5 PIM | 2 H
BUF | S48 | 50 GP | 12 G | 14 A | 26 P | +11 |   5 PIM | 7 H
BUF | S49 | 50 GP | 22 G | 22 A | 44 P | +4   | 34 PIM | 192 H
BUF | S50 | 50 GP | 17 G | 24 A | 41 P | +11 | 58 PIM | 203 H
BUF | S51 | 50 GP | 18 G | 27 A | 45 P | +16 | 42 PIM | 157 H
BUF | S52 | 50 GP | 15 G | 25 A | 40 P | +0   | 61 PIM | 187 H
BUF | S53 | 50 GP | 23 G | 33 A | 56 P | +25 | 14 PIM | 117 H
BUF | S54 | 50 GP | 25 G | 29 A | 54 P | +42 | 6 PIM  | 129 H
BUF | S55 | 50 GP | 25 G | 31 A | 56 P | +48 | 2 PIM  | 141 H
BUF | S56 | 50 GP | 22 G | 36 A | 58 P | +25 | 14 PIM | 121 H
BUF | S57 | 66 GP | 24 G | 36 A | 60 P | +26 | 4 PIM  | 157 H
BUF | S58 | 66 GP | 21 G | 32 A | 53 P | +38 | 16 PIM | 127 H
BUF | S59 | 66 GP | 16 G | 32 A | 48 P | +18 | 14 PIM | 81 H
BUF | TOT | 748 GP | 262 G | 374 A | 636 P | +288 | 276 PIM | 1630 H
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SHL Playoffs:
BUF | S46 | 17 GP | 5 G   | 4 A   | 9 P   | +10 | 0 PIM | 14 H
BUF | S47 | 13 GP | 3 G   | 2 A   | 5 P   | -3    | 0 PIM | 10 H
BUF | S48 | 22 GP | 12 G | 18 A | 30 P | +11  | 0 PIM | 0 H
BUF | S49 | 5 GP   | 2 G   | 3 A   | 5 P  | +0    | 4 PIM | 15 H
BUF | S50 | 6 GP   | 2 G   | 2 A   | 4 P  | +3    | 2 PIM | 20 H
BUF | S51 | 8 GP   | 2 G   | 2 A   | 4 P  | -9     | 4 PIM | 27 H
BUF | S52 | 15 GP | 5 G   | 9 A   | 14 P| +1     | 23 PIM | 50 H
BUF | S53 | 4 GP   | 1 G   | 1 A   | 2 P  | -7     | 0 PIM | 12 H
BUF | S54 | 13 GP | 6 G   | 7 A   | 13 P  | +5    | 4 PIM | 34 H
BUF | S55 | 17 GP  | 3 G   | 7 A   | 10 P  | +10 | 0 PIM | 44 H
BUF | S56 | 23 GP  | 8 G   | 9 A   | 17 P  | +12 | 4 PIM | 66 H
BUF | S57 | 17 GP  | 8 G   | 3 A   | 11 P  | +5   | 0 PIM | 17 H
BUF | S58 | 21 GP  | 4 G   | 9 A   | 13 P  | +6   | 4 PIM | 44 H
BUF | S59 | 19 GP  | 7 G   | 10 A   | 17 P  | +16   | 4 PIM | 40 H
BUF | TOT | 200 GP | 68 G | 86 A | 154 P | +51 | 59 PIM | 403 H
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SMJHL Regular Season:
DET | S42-45 | 200 GP | 54 G | 77 A | 131 P | +38 | 92 PIM | 228 H
SMJHL Playoffs:
DET | S42-45 | 43 GP | 17 G | 25 A | 42 P | +8 | 14 PIM | 44 H


Career Achivements:
S44 Ideen Fallah Trophy Nomination
S44 Brandon Holmes Trophy
S45 Ronan O'Keefe Trophy
S45 Brodie Witzel Trophy
S45 Vyacheslav Onoprienko Trophy Nomination
S46 Challenge Cup Champion
S48 Challenge Cup Champion
S48 Anton Razov Trophy Nomination
S51 Jeff Darr Trophy Nomination
S55 Jeff Darr Trophy Nomination

I am against adding a visual component to this league because those other trash leagues have them. Any step toward being more like them is a step in the wrong direction.

Jack Tanner (D) - [Player Page] [Player Updates]


Jack Tanner -- Offensive Defenseman -- MTL & SF -- 1250 TPE
5'11", 210lbs, #37
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SMJHL Career Statistics
S36 -- 50 GP | 21:01 TOI/G | 8 G 19 A | 86 SOG | 0-0-2 Fights | 28 PIM
S37 -- 50 GP | 21:10 TOI/G | 7 G 28 A | 111 SOG | 0-0-2 Fights | 36 PIM
S38 -- 50 GP | 19:10 TOI/G | 19 G 20 A | 160 SOG | 0-0-1 Fights | 25 PIM
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics
S37 -- 17 GP | 21:45 TOI/G | 4 G 10 A | 36 SOG | 0-0-1 Fights | 9 PIM | GWG G3 v Halifax
S38 -- 13 GP | 19:48 TOI/G | 6 G 6 A | 58 SOG | 0-1-0 Fights| 9 PIM | Hat Trick & GWG G3 v PGF, GTG G6 v PGF
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SHL Career Statistics
S39 -- 50 GP | 22:44 TOI/G | 9 G 22 A | 77 SOG | No Fights | 4 PIM
S40 -- 50 GP | 24:01 TOI/G | 7 G 24 A | 88 SOG | 0-0-1 Fights | 9 PIM
S41 -- 50 GP | 24:31 TOI/G | 16 G 30 A | 135 SOG | 0-0-6 Fights | 34 PIM
S42 -- 50 GP | 24:24 TOI/G | 8 G 30 A | 111 SOG | 2-1-3 Fights | 30 PIM
S43 -- 50 GP | 25:24 TOI/G | 17 G 31 A | 154 SOG | 301 iCF | 1-0-1 Fights | 24 PIM
S44 -- 50 GP | 21:59 TOI/G | 12 G 22 A | 111 SOG | 229 iCF | 2-0-1 Fights | 53 PIM
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SHL Playoff Statistics
N/A
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IIHF Career Statistics
S36 -- 11 GP | 5:33 TOI/G | 0G 1A | 0 SOG | 0 PIM
S37 -- 13 GP | 14:49 TOI/G | 1G 1A | 5 SOG | 0 PIM
S38 -- 10 GP | 13:57 TOI/G | 0G 1A | 7 SOG | 0 PIM
S38 WJC -- 7 GP | 22:26 TOI/G | 1G 2A | 11 SOG | 0 PIM
S39 -- 13 GP | 16:58 TOI/G | 2G 5A | 16 SOG | 2 PIM
S40 -- 11 GP | 21:54 TOI/G | 4G 7A | 21 SOG | 2 PIM
S41 --  13 GP | 22:05 TOI/G | 3G 5A | 24 SOG | 2 PIM
S42 -- 13 GP | 23:14 TOI/G | 1G 12A | 27 SOG | 53 iCF | 0 PIM | GWG in Final v Canada ~Gold Medal~
S43 -- 13 GP | 23:23 TOI/G | 4G 2A | 27 SOG | 53 iCF | 2 PIM ~Gold Medal~
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Notes:
Drafted #6 Overall in S36 SMJHL Draft (MTL)
S36: RIGHTFUL Esa Anrikkanen Winner
Drafted #2 Overall in S37 SHL Draft (POR)
S38: Hat Trick G3 vs Prince George
S39: Led rookies in scoring
S39: All-Rookie Team (only unanimous)
S42: 1st Star & GWG in IIHF Final
S42: Gold Medal with Team Ireland
S43: Gold Medal with Team Ireland
S44: Gold Medal with Team Ireland
S45: Gordie Howe Hat Trick vs Manhattan Rage: Game 177 - 2 goals, 1 assist, and beat up Clint Eastwood.
5/18 career PS%




One sig is tweed's and the other was a karlssens/Copenhagen collab

AC | Bank | Claims

I am against adding a visual component to this league because those other trash leagues have them. Any step toward being more like them is a step in the wrong direction.

Seems like an odd stance, if everything stayed the same but we were able to show some sort of visual pbp during playoffs, you wouldn't want that?

Luc Blouin || RD || Philly Forge || PEAK TPE 2011
Age: 27
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 225 lbs
Number: 42
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Career Stats:
S56 VAN(Jr) GP: 4 G: 0 A: 0 P: 0 +/-: +2 PIM: 0 HIT: 3
S57 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 6 A: 21 P: 27 +/-: -6 PIM: 28 HIT: 37
S58 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 6 A: 24 P: 30 +/-: +30 PIM: 30 HIT: 16
S59 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 8 A: 25 P: 33 +/-: +19 PIM: 18 HIT: 52
S60 DET/VAN(Jr) GP: 66 G: 9 A: 26 P: 35 +/-: +25 PIM: 14 HIT: 46
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Transactions:
S56: Signed as a Draftee Free Agent by the Vancouver Whalers
S57: Drafted 2nd Overall by the Detroit Falcons
S58: Drafted 1st Overall by the Tampa Bay Barracuda
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Awards:
S56: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S57: WJC Silver Metal (Team Sweden)
S59: Zach Miller Trophy (Most Dedicated SMJHL)
S59: Alexis Metzler Trophy (Best Defensive Defenseman SMJHL)
S59: WJC Bronze Medal (Team World)


Robert Phelps || C || Hamilton Steelhawks || Retired
Age: Old
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 210 lbs
Number: 52
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Career Stats:
S34 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 10 A: 22 P: 32 +/-: -17 PIM: 29 HIT: 63
S35 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 11 A: 28 P: 39 +/-: 20 PIM: 39 HIT: 76
S36 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 11 A: 26 P: 37 +/-: -3 PIM: 59 HIT: 85
S37 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 26 P: 44 +/-: -7 PIM: 29 HIT: 36
S38 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 30 P: 44 +/-: 7 PIM: 0 HIT: 17
S39 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 27 P: 45 +/-: 16 PIM: 40 HIT: 27
S40 HAM GP: 50 G: 10 A: 33 P: 43 +/-: 9 PIM: 10 HIT: 49
S41 HAM GP: 50 G: 22 A: 36 P: 58 +/-: 15 PIM: 19 HIT: 62
S42 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 28 P: 42 +/-: 8 PIM: 34 HIT: 100
S43 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 29 P: 52 +/-: 3 PIM: 50 HIT: 96
S44 HAM GP: 50 G: 16 A: 30 P: 46 +/-: -7 PIM: 14 HIT: 73
S45 HAM GP: 50 G: 21 A: 27 P: 48 +/-: 5 PIM: 24 HIT: 140
S46 HAM GP: 50 G: 21 A: 32 P: 53 +/-: 16 PIM: 33 HIT: 159
S47 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 21 P: 44 +/-: 2 PIM: 30 HIT: 114
S48 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 27 P: 45 +/-: -7 PIM: 34 HIT: 159
S49 HAM GP: 50 G: 19 A: 32 P: 51 +/-: -2 PIM: 53 HIT: 155
S50 HAM GP: 50 G: 20 A: 35 P: 55 +/-: 10 PIM: 14 HIT: 88
S51 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 37 P: 60 +/-: 13 PIM: 50 HIT: 86
S52 HAM GP: 50 G: 17 A: 32 P: 49 +/-: 18 PIM: 27 HIT: 56
S53 HAM GP: 50 G: 25 A: 37 P: 62 +/-: 37 PIM: 26 HIT: 47
S54 HAM GP: 50 G: 33 A: 32 P: 65 +/-: 35 PIM: 12 HIT: 60
S55 HAM GP: 50 G: 22 A: 21 P: 43 +/-: 25 PIM: 31 HIT: 26
S56 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 25 P: 39 +/-: 35 PIM: 4 HIT: 36
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Transactions:
S34: Drafted 1st in the SMJHL Draft by Vancouver Whalers
S34: Awarded the position of Alternate Captain for VAN
S35: Drafted 1st in the SHL Draft by Hamilton Steelhawks
S38: Awarded the position of Alternate Captain for HAM
S39: Awarded the position of Captain for HAM
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Awards:
S34: Zach Milller Trophy (Most Dedicated SMJHL)
S35: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S35: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S37: Ryan Jesster Trophy (SHL Rookie of the Year)
S37: Rookie Team All-Star
S38: IIHF Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S39: President's Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S39: IIHF Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S41: Damien Littleton Award (Most Dedicated SHL)
S42: President's Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S42: IIHF Silver Medal (Team Canada)
S50: IIHF Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S50: 2nd Team All-Star
S51: 2nd Team All-Star
S51: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S51: Challenge Cup Champion (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S53: 2nd Team All-Star
S53: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S53: Challenge Cup Champion (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S54: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S54: IIHF Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S54: 3rd Team All-Star


Teddy Phelps || Former GM || Hamilton / Vancouver / Canada
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Transactions:
S35: Hired as Adviser for the Vancouver Whalers
S35: Hired as Federation Head of Team Canada
S36: Hired as Co-GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S37: Hired as GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S40: Stepped down as Head of Team Canada
S42: Stepped down as GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S42: Hired as GM of the Hamilton Steelhawks
S45: Stepped down as GM of the Hamilton Steelhawks
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Awards:
S35: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S35: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S38: Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S39: Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S39: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S41: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S41: Mathias Chouinard Award (Top SMJHL GM)
S42: Lance Uppercut Award (Top SHL GM)

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I am against adding a visual component to this league because those other trash leagues have them. Any step toward being more like them is a step in the wrong direction.

Seems like an odd stance, if everything stayed the same but we were able to show some sort of visual pbp during playoffs, you wouldn't want that?

I could be mistaken but I believe Beaver is making a facetious comment about the SHL and it's "purity".

 

Seems like an odd stance, if everything stayed the same but we were able to show some sort of visual pbp during playoffs, you wouldn't want that?

I could be mistaken but I believe Beaver is making a facetious comment about the SHL and it's "purity".

That devious bastard got me again.

Luc Blouin || RD || Philly Forge || PEAK TPE 2011
Age: 27
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 225 lbs
Number: 42
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Career Stats:
S56 VAN(Jr) GP: 4 G: 0 A: 0 P: 0 +/-: +2 PIM: 0 HIT: 3
S57 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 6 A: 21 P: 27 +/-: -6 PIM: 28 HIT: 37
S58 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 6 A: 24 P: 30 +/-: +30 PIM: 30 HIT: 16
S59 DET(Jr) GP: 66 G: 8 A: 25 P: 33 +/-: +19 PIM: 18 HIT: 52
S60 DET/VAN(Jr) GP: 66 G: 9 A: 26 P: 35 +/-: +25 PIM: 14 HIT: 46
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Transactions:
S56: Signed as a Draftee Free Agent by the Vancouver Whalers
S57: Drafted 2nd Overall by the Detroit Falcons
S58: Drafted 1st Overall by the Tampa Bay Barracuda
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Awards:
S56: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S57: WJC Silver Metal (Team Sweden)
S59: Zach Miller Trophy (Most Dedicated SMJHL)
S59: Alexis Metzler Trophy (Best Defensive Defenseman SMJHL)
S59: WJC Bronze Medal (Team World)


Robert Phelps || C || Hamilton Steelhawks || Retired
Age: Old
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 210 lbs
Number: 52
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Career Stats:
S34 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 10 A: 22 P: 32 +/-: -17 PIM: 29 HIT: 63
S35 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 11 A: 28 P: 39 +/-: 20 PIM: 39 HIT: 76
S36 VAN(SMJHL) GP: 50 G: 11 A: 26 P: 37 +/-: -3 PIM: 59 HIT: 85
S37 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 26 P: 44 +/-: -7 PIM: 29 HIT: 36
S38 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 30 P: 44 +/-: 7 PIM: 0 HIT: 17
S39 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 27 P: 45 +/-: 16 PIM: 40 HIT: 27
S40 HAM GP: 50 G: 10 A: 33 P: 43 +/-: 9 PIM: 10 HIT: 49
S41 HAM GP: 50 G: 22 A: 36 P: 58 +/-: 15 PIM: 19 HIT: 62
S42 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 28 P: 42 +/-: 8 PIM: 34 HIT: 100
S43 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 29 P: 52 +/-: 3 PIM: 50 HIT: 96
S44 HAM GP: 50 G: 16 A: 30 P: 46 +/-: -7 PIM: 14 HIT: 73
S45 HAM GP: 50 G: 21 A: 27 P: 48 +/-: 5 PIM: 24 HIT: 140
S46 HAM GP: 50 G: 21 A: 32 P: 53 +/-: 16 PIM: 33 HIT: 159
S47 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 21 P: 44 +/-: 2 PIM: 30 HIT: 114
S48 HAM GP: 50 G: 18 A: 27 P: 45 +/-: -7 PIM: 34 HIT: 159
S49 HAM GP: 50 G: 19 A: 32 P: 51 +/-: -2 PIM: 53 HIT: 155
S50 HAM GP: 50 G: 20 A: 35 P: 55 +/-: 10 PIM: 14 HIT: 88
S51 HAM GP: 50 G: 23 A: 37 P: 60 +/-: 13 PIM: 50 HIT: 86
S52 HAM GP: 50 G: 17 A: 32 P: 49 +/-: 18 PIM: 27 HIT: 56
S53 HAM GP: 50 G: 25 A: 37 P: 62 +/-: 37 PIM: 26 HIT: 47
S54 HAM GP: 50 G: 33 A: 32 P: 65 +/-: 35 PIM: 12 HIT: 60
S55 HAM GP: 50 G: 22 A: 21 P: 43 +/-: 25 PIM: 31 HIT: 26
S56 HAM GP: 50 G: 14 A: 25 P: 39 +/-: 35 PIM: 4 HIT: 36
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Transactions:
S34: Drafted 1st in the SMJHL Draft by Vancouver Whalers
S34: Awarded the position of Alternate Captain for VAN
S35: Drafted 1st in the SHL Draft by Hamilton Steelhawks
S38: Awarded the position of Alternate Captain for HAM
S39: Awarded the position of Captain for HAM
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Awards:
S34: Zach Milller Trophy (Most Dedicated SMJHL)
S35: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S35: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S37: Ryan Jesster Trophy (SHL Rookie of the Year)
S37: Rookie Team All-Star
S38: IIHF Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S39: President's Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S39: IIHF Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S41: Damien Littleton Award (Most Dedicated SHL)
S42: President's Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S42: IIHF Silver Medal (Team Canada)
S50: IIHF Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S50: 2nd Team All-Star
S51: 2nd Team All-Star
S51: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S51: Challenge Cup Champion (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S53: 2nd Team All-Star
S53: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S53: Challenge Cup Champion (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S54: Matthias Chouinard Trophy (Hamilton Steelhawks)
S54: IIHF Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S54: 3rd Team All-Star


Teddy Phelps || Former GM || Hamilton / Vancouver / Canada
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Transactions:
S35: Hired as Adviser for the Vancouver Whalers
S35: Hired as Federation Head of Team Canada
S36: Hired as Co-GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S37: Hired as GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S40: Stepped down as Head of Team Canada
S42: Stepped down as GM of the Vancouver Whalers
S42: Hired as GM of the Hamilton Steelhawks
S45: Stepped down as GM of the Hamilton Steelhawks
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Awards:
S35: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S35: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Four Star Cup (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S36: Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S38: Bronze Medal (Team Canada)
S39: Gold Medal (Team Canada)
S39: Occasus Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S41: Laurifer Trophy (Vancouver Whalers)
S41: Mathias Chouinard Award (Top SMJHL GM)
S42: Lance Uppercut Award (Top SHL GM)

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Why would it make sense for a bunch of SHL’ers to know and understand the algorithms that drive production in a sim engine? One of the worst ideas I’ve heard around here.

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