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kit · 01-09-2019, 01:58 PM

we could also just shorten the offseason significantly

Eggy216 · 01-09-2019, 02:03 PM

01-09-2019, 01:57 PMArGarBarGar Wrote:
01-09-2019, 01:45 PMEggy216 Wrote: That's the thing, we did that and STHS added on games that weren't necessary. We did the math to get 50 games out of two 8 team conferences, and STHS said "ok but we're giving you more games than necessary"

What?

You changed the minimum games vs division/conference and it didn't give you an option for 50?

I did it five minutes ago with 16 teams and had no trouble getting to 50 after tweaking the minimum games setting.

I don't have STHS, evok did it. Doing 6 games in conference (7 teams, 42 games) and 1 game out of conference (8 teams, 8 games) gave us a 52 game season because apparently 42 + 8 = 52.

01-09-2019, 01:51 PMChris-McZehrl Wrote:
01-09-2019, 01:50 PMEggy216 Wrote: We don't do that anymore, haven't for a few seasons. Just the finals now.

then we should look for the time in the finals! 7+ days for the finals is way too much if the rounds before take max 4 days!

Last season's finals featured 6 games in 3 days.

Eggy216 · 01-09-2019, 02:04 PM

01-09-2019, 01:58 PMkit Wrote: we could also just shorten the offseason significantly

We really can't. I've gotten it as short as possible at this point. While the general member base sees it as pure downtime, with all the things going on behind the scenes I already get yelled at every offseason by people who say it's not enough time.

kit · 01-09-2019, 02:05 PM

01-09-2019, 02:04 PMEggy216 Wrote:
01-09-2019, 01:58 PMkit Wrote: we could also just shorten the offseason significantly

We really can't. I've gotten it as short as possible at this point. While the general member base sees it as pure downtime, with all the things going on behind the scenes I already get yelled at every offseason by people who say it's not enough time.

well those ppl are lazy Angry

Mack · 01-09-2019, 02:10 PM

Season length should be increased! Old players who played in a different era and accumulated records will fight it but it's time for a new era.

ArGarBarGar · 01-09-2019, 02:16 PM

01-09-2019, 02:03 PMEggy216 Wrote:
01-09-2019, 01:57 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: What?

You changed the minimum games vs division/conference and it didn't give you an option for 50?

I did it five minutes ago with 16 teams and had no trouble getting to 50 after tweaking the minimum games setting.

I don't have STHS, evok did it. Doing 6 games in conference (7 teams, 42 games) and 1 game out of conference (8 teams, 8 games) gave us a 52 game season because apparently 42 + 8 = 52.

Do we need a minimum of 6 games in-conference? Could we do 4 and 2?

52 isn't as bad since we did that in a previous era, I suppose. I would be against anything higher than that, though.

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Chris-McZehrl · 01-09-2019, 02:16 PM

01-09-2019, 02:10 PMMack Wrote: Season length should be increased! Old players who played in a different era and accumulated records will fight it but it's time for a new era.

you can also create a new league Ninja

Mayuu · 01-09-2019, 02:20 PM

01-09-2019, 02:16 PMChris-McZehrl Wrote:
01-09-2019, 02:10 PMMack Wrote: Season length should be increased! Old players who played in a different era and accumulated records will fight it but it's time for a new era.

you can also create a new league

Don't be rude. Season lengths changes over time just as teams does. Hanging on to an old stystem just for the sake of it seems counter productive

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Chris-McZehrl · 01-09-2019, 02:22 PM

01-09-2019, 02:20 PMMayuu Wrote:
01-09-2019, 02:16 PMChris-McZehrl Wrote: you can also create a new league

Don't be rude. Season lengths changes over time just as teams does. Hanging on to an old stystem just for the sake of it seems counter productive

that was just a small hit against the new copied SHL league :D

Mayuu · 01-09-2019, 02:23 PM

01-09-2019, 02:22 PMChris-McZehrl Wrote:
01-09-2019, 02:20 PMMayuu Wrote: Don't be rude. Season lengths changes over time just as teams does. Hanging on to an old stystem just for the sake of it seems counter productive

that was just a small hit against the new copied SHL league :D

Innovation and competition is good. It drives good changes. =)

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Eggy216 · 01-09-2019, 02:33 PM

01-09-2019, 02:16 PMArGarBarGar Wrote:
01-09-2019, 02:03 PMEggy216 Wrote: I don't have STHS, evok did it. Doing 6 games in conference (7 teams, 42 games) and 1 game out of conference (8 teams, 8 games) gave us a 52 game season because apparently 42 + 8 = 52.

Do we need a minimum of 6 games in-conference? Could we do 4 and 2?

52 isn't as bad since we did that in a previous era, I suppose. I would be against anything higher than that, though.

We tried other numbers (I think it was 4 and 2, don't remember for sure), and STHS kind of just did what it wanted with those extra games.

JumpierPegasus · 01-09-2019, 04:20 PM

8 teams get a bye to round 2

No teams in round 1

Highest seed from round 2 plays lowest seed in round 2

It's genius

***Ace*** · 01-09-2019, 04:27 PM

01-09-2019, 04:20 PMJumpierPancakes Wrote: 8 teams get a bye to round 2

No teams in round 1

Highest seed from round 2 plays lowest seed in round 2

It's genius

Let's just skip playoffs entirely, it's pointless!

Evok · 01-09-2019, 05:15 PM

01-09-2019, 01:57 PMArGarBarGar Wrote:
01-09-2019, 01:45 PMEggy216 Wrote: That's the thing, we did that and STHS added on games that weren't necessary. We did the math to get 50 games out of two 8 team conferences, and STHS said "ok but we're giving you more games than necessary"

What?

You changed the minimum games vs division/conference and it didn't give you an option for 50?

I did it five minutes ago with 16 teams and had no trouble getting to 50 after tweaking the minimum games setting.

If you managed to do something that work and get accurate and equal schedule for everyone, please let me know, cause i tried multiple settings where it gave me weird shit like BUF playing some teams 6 times or EDM playing a team 8 times. I can manage to have 50 games without conference, but it become shit when you actually do the schedule and check the results of what it actually is.

r1c3bowl22 · 01-09-2019, 05:57 PM

01-09-2019, 01:41 PMmajesiu Wrote:
01-09-2019, 12:44 PMr1c3bowl22 Wrote: It makes the league more competitive, which drives fun. I'm all for having all the SMJHL teams make the playoffs, since that's where we generally find newer members and you wanna keep those guys engaged as much as possible, but I think competition in the SHL should be welcomed. At least give it a season or two to see how that pans out, and then think about realignment and all that. I'm not opposed to a 4:4 playoff split to start with.

Half of the leagues get two extra weeks off and from a user perspective, it's really boring, even in SHL. Maybe the issue here is not the number of teams, but the duration of the playoffs? It's not like STHS output even in form of PBPs is interesting enough to have playoffs last almost two weeks.
How about one-week playoffs?
Monday First Round
Tuesday 2nd Round
Wednesday/Thursday Conference Finals
And you still get 3 day's for SHL/SMJHL Finals PBP's with potential Game 7 on Monday

We're already running two games a day for playoffs, you're suggesting doing a full round a day? 4-7 games simmed? That seems like a lot, especially since GM's are going to possibly change lines in between games.

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