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It is with a heavy heart that we have announce this. The rules against tampering don't leave much room with lenience here, but it has to be done.

The Buffalo Stampede have been found tampering with a player under contract with another team. With Portland's buyout of GroupMeIsKindOfOkay's player, Reed Laing, TDW sought out to ask how much money his player is looking for in free agency. Reed Laing is still under contract to the Admirals at this time. Buffalo's GM ThatDamnWalrus got permission from RomanesEuntDomus to talk to Alex, and while he did his due diligence, the rule is very clear - you cannot reach out to any player on another contract to search for contract demands that player might have in free agency.

The punishment for tampering is harsh. However, due to the circumstances of TDW following due dilligence to see if Alex's player was a free agent, we have lowered the punishment against the Stampede.

We know that TDW has done an excellent job managing the franchise, and we have no doubts that he and his team will be able to bring success to the Buffalo Stampede in spite of this ruling.

Punishment (Voting: 4-1-1 in favor)
Loss of either S34 or S35 1st round pick (Buffalo's choice)
Loss of S35 2nd round pick
Loss of S36 2nd round pick.
RED's player (Nicolas Winter) to be suspended for half of the S34 Regular Season.

edit: wording

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This punishment is SAWFT as fuck, show some fucking consistency, They got off way easier than Portland.

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Why did RED get punished?

Edit: fuck u cam

And why do they not forfeit firsts wtf

Fuck it, I'm gonna commit some HO sanctioned tampering. This isn't even a punishment imo. HO protecting their own.

weird when a buff gets nerfed

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RED got punished because he (incorrectly) told Walrus he was allowed to speak to Alex, speaking on behalf of the HO without speaking to them first.

They don't forfeit firsts because Walrus did what he was supposed to - he asked HO whether he was allowed to speak with Alex yet. It's not really his fault the Head Office member screwed up. (That said, it could be argued that he should have known, since such a stink was raised over the timing of the buyout announcement)

Edit: Not saying I agree or disagree with the ruling, just explaining the reasoning as I understand it.

Walrus already quit

◦5. Tampering◾a. Tampering is defined as approaching a player under contract with another team outside of the public forums, with the purpose of persuading them to join your team◾i. This includes any private discussion involving leaving the team with whom the player is under contract with the purpose of joining the offender’s team
â—¾ii. See this thread for clarification.

â—¾b. Punishment for GMs/Assistant GMs:â—¾i. First offense:

• â—¾Loss of three first round draft picks
  â—¾Inability to sign any free agents for one full season (preseason to end of season)
  â—¾Suspension of GM's player for entire season
  â—¾$10,000,000 fine to the team
  
  â—¾ii. Second offense:â—¾Loss of five first round draft picks
  â—¾Inability to sign any free agents for two seasons
  â—¾Suspension of GM's player for two full seasons + 1 week forum ban
  â—¾$20mil fine
  
  â—¾iii. Third offense:â—¾No loss of picks
  â—¾No free agent deficit
  â—¾GM banned from league
  â—¾No money loss
  
  
  â—¦c. Punishment for Non-GMs:â—¾i. First Offense:â—¾$1mil fine
  â—¾10 game suspension
  
  â—¾ii. Second Offense:â—¾$2mil fine
  â—¾40 game suspension
  
  â—¾iii. Third Offense:â—¾$5mil fine
  â—¾Full season suspension
  
  ◾iv. Further offenses will be punished at the DC’s discretion.

I get they 'did their due dilligence' but either punish em like everyone else or don't at all i feel.

Quote:Originally posted by Tanner@Mar 29 2017, 01:23 PM
(That said, it could be argued that he should have known, since such a stink was raised over the timing of the buyout announcement)

The tampering happened before that stink was raised - if it'd happened after, there would 100% have been a full punishment. The fact that that read as an "immediate" announcement to originally was taken into account.

Quote:Originally posted by Tanner@Mar 29 2017, 02:23 PM

(That said, it could be argued that he should have known, since such a stink was raised over the timing of the buyout announcement)

Just for the record, that stink for the most part happened like 2 days after the buyout post.

Quote:Originally posted by Tanner@Mar 29 2017, 01:23 PM




RED got punished because he (incorrectly) told Walrus he was allowed to speak to Alex, speaking on behalf of the HO without speaking to them first.

They don't forfeit firsts because Walrus did what he was supposed to - he asked HO whether he was allowed to speak with Alex yet. It's not really his fault the Head Office member screwed up. (That said, it could be argued that he should have known, since such a stink was raised over the timing of the buyout announcement)

Edit: Not saying I agree or disagree with the ruling, just explaining the reasoning as I understand it.

I read the fkn OP. The rule CLEARLY states that compliance buyouts don't take effect until OFFSEASON. Why should the punishment be lightened because Buffalo is collectively illiterate?