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- Harry - 10-29-2014
Pretty sure Tez has been tanking since S16
- xDParK - 10-29-2014
Quote:Originally posted by Spangle@Oct 29 2014, 12:13 PMI'm confident that we will come up with a clear rule to prevent tanking as much as possible. Obviously it will be tough, but with enough brainstorming from the league I'm sure we can do it.
Not in the least. We will never be able to identify it without significant controversy and without punishing teams who did not attempt to tank. Pretending that we could find tankers easily and punish them is beyond naive.
And plus, a system where we altered odds would be fair as well. Even more fair, since it wouldn't guarantee that tankers, when we never catch them, get rewarded.
- Spangle - 10-29-2014
Quote:Originally posted by xDParK@Oct 29 2014, 12:16 PM
I'm confident that we will come up with a clear rule to prevent tanking as much as possible. Obviously it will be tough, but with enough brainstorming from the league I'm sure we can do it.
The problem is that there's too much gray area. This isn't multis or tampering, this is more hidden and easier to explain away. We'll never get a tanker without controversy or punishing somebody who did not try to tank. I guarantee it.
- xDParK - 10-29-2014
Quote:Originally posted by Spangle@Oct 29 2014, 12:18 PMI think you're overreacting here
The problem is that there's too much gray area. This isn't multis or tampering, this is more hidden and easier to explain away. We'll never get a tanker without controversy or punishing somebody who did not try to tank. I guarantee it.
- Mook - 10-29-2014
Maybe a season or two of trying it out. If it doesnt work or gms see they dont like it, try something else. Its easy to see stuff of paper not working, but in action may be different
- Spangle - 10-29-2014
Quote:Originally posted by xDParK@Oct 29 2014, 12:21 PM
I think you're overreacting here
Not in the least. This ruins the lottery and makes fighting a guarantee.
- xDParK - 10-29-2014
Quote:Originally posted by Spangle@Oct 29 2014, 12:23 PMDisagree, love the change.
Not in the least. This ruins the lottery and makes fighting a guarantee.
- Mac - 10-29-2014
How about we do a system like they did for the Crosby sweepstakes where a team gets weighted on the previous three seasons performance. The worst teams will still have the best odds and it will be much easier to notice correlating tanking habits.
- Mook - 10-29-2014
Quote:Originally posted by Mac@Oct 29 2014, 12:36 PM
How about we do a system like they did for the Crosby sweepstakes where a team gets weighted on the previous three seasons performance. The worst teams will still have the best odds and it will be much easier to notice correlating tanking habits.
I forgot about that!
- r1c3bowl22 - 10-29-2014
Quote:Originally posted by Mac@Oct 29 2014, 11:36 AMWhat if you strategically gradually tank?
How about we do a system like they did for the Crosby sweepstakes where a team gets weighted on the previous three seasons performance. The worst teams will still have the best odds and it will be much easier to notice correlating tanking habits.
- ThatDamnWalrus - 10-29-2014
Quote:Originally posted by Spangle@Oct 29 2014, 10:08 AMIm with spangle on this. I think the SHL lottery was really exciting cause you dont know where you will end up. Now its like, oh we have a top 2 pick, who cares about the lottery.
Terrible. This just rewards tanking since there is no way we could ever identify it. Good show. Changing the odds to 30, 15, 10, and 5, would prevent the last place team from slipping too far but keep them being guaranteed to benefit from tanking. This system simply guarantees that tanking will be beneficial to them.
Heck I ran the numbers and the fairest, most entertaining way was with the odds slightly alerted. The new system only benefits those who tank while stripping the lottery of all excitement. Worst change ever made in the shl honestly. Might as well scrap the lottery entirely now.
- ByrdeMan - 10-29-2014
Mac's solution is pretty good, but what if a team after 2 horrible season signs big name players galore and does great? Does the other 2 bad seasons still give them a shot at a high pick?
- Mook - 10-29-2014
Quote:Originally posted by r1c3bowl22@Oct 29 2014, 12:40 PM
What if you strategically gradually tank?
Then get fired. If you are just making moves to make your team suck, why bother GMing
- xDParK - 10-29-2014
It can be very demoralizing to a GM and his team when they finish dead last and end up with 4th overall pick, one of the reasons I like this.
- xDParK - 10-29-2014
Quote:Originally posted by ThatDamnWalrus@Oct 29 2014, 12:42 PMI'm more concerned about what's best for the teams, not so much the excitement of the lottery.
Im with spangle on this. I think the SHL lottery was really exciting cause you dont know where you will end up. Now its like, oh we have a top 2 pick, who cares about the lottery.