Quote:Originally posted by mpc@Jun 23 2016, 03:34 PM


Also true. I also give him credit for finding Janmark out of nowhere and now he's a part of the younger core. He's done a lot more good than bad. I hope he continues and lets most of our defensive UFAs go this offseason, lets young guns play and develop.

Quote:Originally posted by Reynolds@Jun 23 2016, 05:55 PM

Well having young guys on your blueline is great, you need a good mixture. With the inconsistent goaltending the Stars are known for, that team needs stability from the backend. Not to mention some of the players careers are coming to the end and trading for unproven kids may make those players wonder where they are in regards to the organizations future.

Quote:Originally posted by morphinecv@Jun 23 2016, 06:44 PM

Actually, if you could get Girgensens to commit to a deal, with a 2nd, it's not terrible. It's not enough, but he's not awful.

Quote:Originally posted by mpc@Jun 23 2016, 06:59 PM


That's why we keep Oduya and maybe Goligoski/Demers, depending on trades and cap space, then the rest fill with young guns.

Klings - Goli/Demers/DefenderX from Trade
Oduya - Johns
Lindell - Nemeth/Oleksiak/Honka

And I think Niemi/Lehtonen between the pipes is decent, but yeah, we need to find a true goalie... Plan on dropping guys like Eaves, Moen, and possibly Hemsky depending on cap?

Quote:Originally posted by morphinecv@Jun 23 2016, 06:56 PM
It's a fair assessment. You have to know Sam isn't going to be available, especially if 8th is too high, but I feel like people are ignoring how in demand Fowler would probably be. I'd think Winnipeg would 100% give up 22 + a non essential prospect or a Lowry/Petan type player or something very easily. Whether it's enough is one thing, but I don't think Anaheim has an option but to move Fowler so it's a best package scenario. I can't imagine that Anaheim would take a Girgensons + 2nd package just so they could have the right and kind honor of dealing with Buffalo, and I think there's a good package of unspectacular but complimenting pieces laying around.

Quote:Originally posted by mpc@Jun 23 2016, 03:59 PM


That's why we keep Oduya and maybe Goligoski/Demers, depending on trades and cap space, then the rest fill with young guns.

Klings - Goli/Demers/DefenderX from Trade
Oduya - Johns
Lindell - Nemeth/Oleksiak/Honka

And I think Niemi/Lehtonen between the pipes is decent, but yeah, we need to find a true goalie... Plan on dropping guys like Eaves, Moen, and possibly Hemsky depending on cap?

Quote:Originally posted by Jon Snow@Jun 23 2016, 06:00 PM

You are aware that Goligoski has been traded right... and Demers wants 5.5m and won't be re-signing.

Quote:Originally posted by Reynolds@Jun 23 2016, 06:02 PM

I don't know about decent anymore. I've heard the argument that you don't need a franchise calibre goalie to win a cup, but at the same time you do still need your goalie to make a big save. Niemi was actually a good example of that when he won, but he is aging. When your nickname is "Lehton-em-in", it doesn't bode well when he can never get his act together. The Stars are best shedding both and acquiring Bishop or some other goalie.

Quote:Originally posted by WannabeFinn@Jun 23 2016, 06:05 PM
didn't Nill already say Demers and Russell are headed to free agency? and he's opting to go with the young guys?

Quote:Originally posted by morphinecv@Jun 23 2016, 07:06 PM
The two players you hate are some of the only ones with contracts though. Where are you finding Perron, Stewart and McGinn money, while also getting Rakell and Pirri under? And Lindholm?

I said it wasn't enough, but if you have to move him, you take the best package. I'd be very surprised if that was the top, and I wouldn't like it, but if not taking it means that you take a worse package, then.. I mean. It's worse, is what I'm saying.