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Points and stuff - puolivalmiste - 03-02-2020 So I was thinking I need money and decided to take look at how would last seasons results change if we used different point system. So I checked how things would change if we had any of the following systems: Classic: 2 point for regulation or overtime win, 1 for tie (shootouts, win or loss) and 0 for losses. International: 3 points for regulation win, 2 for overtime or shootout win, 1 for overtime or shootout loss and 0 for loss. FUSO (short for fuck you shoot outs): 4 points for regulation win, 3 for overtime win, 2 for shootout win, 1 for overtime or shootout loss and 0 for loss. So lets check from the bottom to see how things would change, with overall standings and total points listed for every system. 16. Tampa Bay Barracuda Current: 16th - 36 Classic: 16th - 33 International: 16th - 51 FUSO: 16th - 66 I think only thing that could save Tampa from last place would be some point system that gave more points for losses that wins. But at least they were consistent with all systems so their performance could barely be considered reason for change. 15. West Kendall Platoon Current: 15th - 43 Classic: 13th - 43 International: 13th - 63 FUSO: 13th - 84 Here we see some change, Platoons ability to close games on regulation actually helps to push them up two positions on every other point system which still keeps them out of playoff range and only hurts their lottery odds. 14. Texas Renegades Current: 14th - 44 Classic: 14th - 43 International: 14th - 61 FUSO: 14th - 81 I love the consistency here, another team that does not move a spot on any system and why would you want to when it has already been shown that 14th spot was one to win Draft lottery this season. 13. Minnesota Chiefs Current: 13th - 45 Classic: 15th - 36 International: 15th - 57 FUSO: 15th - 70 Minnesota clearly loses if we move to any other system as 10 of their games went all the way to shootouts, or maybe current system fucked their chances on draft lottery pushing them 2 spots above where they could have been. 12. Winnipeg Jets Current: 12th - 48 Classic: 12th - 45 International: 12th - 68 FUSO: 12th - 89 I think I know how this works, every other team stays where they were so I can skip half of them and not get paid as much. 11. Calgary Dragons Current: 11th - 52 Classic: 9th - 49 International: 11th - 71 FUSO: 11th - 92 Here we have first team that made it to playoffs and mostly their performance stays the same but they jump up two spots if we take away losers point. 10. Los Angeles Panthers Current: 10th - 54 Classic: 8th - 50 International: 8th - 76 FUSO: 8th - 98 Another playoff team and they are at least one spot ahead of Dragons keeping wild card round the same. In general they move up two spots but those teams they overtake are from other conference. 9. New England Wolfpack Current: 9th - 55 Classic: 10th - 48 International: 9th - 75 FUSO: 9th - 95 New England didn't make playoffs as they were tied with Toronto and had worse tiebreaker, what ever that happened to be. Here they mostly keep their 9th overall spot and even drop to 10th when we bring back ties, so it should not look too good. 8. Toronto North Stars Current: 8th - 55 Classic: 11th - 47 International: 10th - 74 FUSO: 10th - 95 So looking at Toronto's record we see they actually drop on every system, mostly because 12 of their games did not end on regulation. Only other where they could make playoffs is FUSO where they are tied with New England once again but I was using regulation wins as tiebreaker and they end up at 10th and out of playoffs. 7. New Orleans Specters Current: 7th - 57 Classic: 6th - 55 International: 7th - 80 FUSO: 7th - 104 Another team that had secured their spot on playoffs and keeps their spot pretty consistently, on classic they overtake Manhattan but as they are playing on whole other conference it doesn't effect playoffs at all at least before Challenge Cup Finals. 6. Manhattan Rage Current: 6th - 57 Classic: 7th - 54 International: 6th - 81 FUSO: 6th - 106 As mentioned, they drop one spot on classic but on any other system their performance is very consistent and they hold on their spot at top of Atlantic Division on all cases. 5. Buffalo Stampede Current: 5th - 59 Classic: 4th - 58 International: 5th - 84 FUSO: 4th - 112 Buffalo gains a spot on overall standings on two cases but once again they only overtake team from another conference and they still end up to play wildcard round though in any of these proposed cases it would have been versus New England. 4. Edmonton Blizzard Current: 4th - 61 Classic: 5th - 55 International: 4th - 85 FUSO: 5th - 111 So team losing those positions is Edmonton and on Classic they are actually tied in points with Specters but as we use regulation wins for tiebreaker they stay ahead, also Edmonton always wins Northwest Division to get that second seed on conference. 3. Chicago Syndicate Current: 3rd - 63 Classic: 3rd - 59 International: 3rd - 87 FUSO: 3rd - 114 And I thought it was just even teams that were allowed to keep their spot, but as Chicago manages to do so I think it should not come as huge surprise that they keep their place on playoffs, just behind Manhattan because they have to play in same division with Hamilton. 2. Hamilton Steelhawks Current: 2nd - 68 Classic: 1st - 63 International: 2nd - 93 FUSO: 1st - 122 Steelhawks were point away from Presidents' Trophy and with Classic or FUSO it could have been theirs, though margin would stay almost same on every system, so close competition all they way to last sims. 1. San Francisco Pride Current: 1st - 69 Classic: 2nd - 62 International: 1st - 94 FUSO: 2nd - 120 As mentioned, top spot was very close and Pride could hold onto it on International system which to be fair is most likely alternative to current one. Also as Steelhawks and Pride are from different conferences them swapping places doesn't really do much. Even though it might look like changing point system could change a lot, most of movement between positions was over teams on other conference or pointless jumps up and down for teams out of playoffs, though jumping up two spot on overall standings like West Kendall and Los Angeles sure must feel better than dropping down two spots. Only thing that ends up changing is in 2 cases New England makes it to playoffs and on another new system they once again are tied with Toronto. Point differences don't grow too much and in some cases teams are even closer than they were with current system, so even as I personally would prefer to use system that values regulation wins over overtime and specially shootout wins in the end it doesn't seem to matter too much, at least when using latest season as sample but I'm too lazy to go check if Hamilton would drop out of playoffs if I counted season 51 points with FUSO. Most people here are more familiar with current two point system anyway so pushing for change based on this (if you are not playing for New England) would be pretty pointless. (about 1200 words)