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Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - BDonini - 04-14-2019 After taking a long break from the hockey world following his retirement, ex SHL champion, Brandon Donini has returned to the game this year. He has offered his services as agent to star SHL prospect Lallo Selman as well as taken on a role with the SHL awards committee. Following last night's controversial SHL awards ceremony, Donini has agreed to join us here on the SHL network in an effort to increase the transparency of the new SHL awards committee. He has come on to reveal and discuss his three nominations for each award as well as his final votes for every award and any comments he had on nominations and results of each award. Additionally, he got a couple other members of the committee; Former Blizzard GM Nikolaus Scholz and SHL Hall of Famer Lord Pretty Flacko to join us and discuss some of the more controversial awards of the show like the Ron Mexico Award, the Aidan Richan award, the Jef Dar award and the inaugural Bojo Biscuit award. ![]() Former star power forward Brandon Donini arriving at the S46 SHL Award Show. Ron Mexico Award (League MVP) 1. Terrance Nova ![]() 2. Benjamin Blue ![]() 3. Luke Atmey ![]() NB: I recognize how outstanding the Chiefs' 1st line's season was and how much Watson/Skillstedt deserve some sort of recognition but I just can't justify nominating a player as the league's MVP if I don't even have him as his own team's MVP. Final Vote: 1. Terrance Nova ![]() 2. Bobby Watson ![]() 3. Dick Skillstedt ![]() Comments: Donini Wrote:Wow ok, where do I start with this one? I don't agree with these nominees at all. I really don't think that there should be more than one player nominated for an MVP award from the same team, it doesn't make sense to me how someone who isn't the MVP of their team could be nominated to be MVP of the league. I feel like Benjamin Blue was really deserving of a nomination for this award given the phenomenal season he had and given how weak the team he played for is. For him to carry them on his back like that and take them into the playoffs was pretty exceptional. From these three nominees, Nova is the easy choice for me. As I explained in my nominations, I think Nova is the reason that that line was as good as it was and so it would be shocking for anyone other than Nova to take home the Mexico. Flacko Wrote:I was definitely in the camp that either Nova or Marius should win, with a slight nod to Nova. The three nominees all being on that Chiefs line... I get it but at the same time I definitely don't agree with it. I really wish Marius was at least able to be a nominee because I think he and Nova are really the two obvious choices. Scholz Wrote:Nova, Watson, Cuddles - two of my nominations were part of the consensus and made it through to the voting stage and for obvious reasons, they killed it. I think Cuddles was overlooked though. He led his team is goals, assists, points, rating and hits. The highest point producer in the league not associated with the Chiefs, he logged almost 4 minutes less per game than the big 3. Point share wise he's right up there too at #5. John McBride Award (Best Goaltender) 1. Benjamin Blue ![]() 2. Aleister Cain ![]() 3. Kata Vilde ![]() Final Vote: 1. Benjamin Blue ![]() 2. Aleister Cain ![]() 3. Kata Vilde ![]() Comments: Donini Wrote:This award is interesting because both Cain and Boucher had exceptional seasons. For me the big difference maker here was Boucher's point shares, for a player to have point shares that much shows how well he played and how much his good play impacted his team. Cain had a very good season too though and is also very deserving of the award, for me Blue just edges it a little bit. Scott Stevens Award (Best Defenceman) 1. Ludwig Koch Schroder ![]() 2. Jon Toner ![]() 3. Tatu Makela ![]() Final Vote: 1. Ludwig Koch Schroder ![]() 2. Jon Toner ![]() 3. Tatu Makela ![]() Comments: Donini Wrote:No surprises in this award for me, all 3 players I chose ended up being on the nominations list and the winner should be Ludwig Koch Schroder in a landslide. He was outstanding all over the ice this season, easily the league's best defenseman and he'll finally win the award that's alluded him for so long. Ryan Jesster Award (Best Rookie) 1. Barret McCarthy ![]() 2. Cedric Robinson ![]() 3. David Fantobens ![]() Final Vote: 1. Barret McCarthy ![]() 2. Cedric Robinson ![]() 3. Mika Mayfield ![]() Comments: Donini Wrote:This is another one for me that's similar to the Mexico case where I don't exactly agree with two players from the same team being nominated, although they do play two different positions so it is more acceptable. I still believe that Fantobens had a better season than Mayfield and should've been there but regardless neither of them would've won as this one was close for me between McCarthy and Robinson. In the end, I think McCarthy just edges it out as his season as a rookie defender was pretty outstanding. The underlying numbers here really make the case for McCarthy giving him just a narrow edge in this one. Robinson also had a very good defense in front of him making his work load a little easier. Jeff Dar Award (Best Two-Way Forward) 1. Viktor Marius ![]() 2. Bobby Watson ![]() 3. Sophia Bennett ![]() Final Vote: 1. Viktor Marius ![]() 2. Mike Izzy ![]() 3. Teddy Cuddles ![]() Comments: Donini Wrote:This award means a lot to me, it's one that I won twice in a row in my career with 4 straight nominations. It was important to me that the winner of this award is the most deserving power forward in the league and I think that that's exactly what Marius is and he should win the Dar easily. As far as the nominees go, it was close for me as a final nomination between Mike Izzy and Sophia Bennett so seeing him on the final nominees list is no surprise. I don't, however, think that Teddy Cuddles is the most deserving final nominee and it wouldn't be a surprise to me if he doesn't come close to winning. Flacko Wrote:This is one that I saw as a one man show. No player came close to the two-way play exhibited by Marius and to give anyone else this award would be an absolute crime. Scholz Wrote:Marius, Phelps, Augustus - Only 1 of my guys made it through this time. Arguably the most contested award in this league, we always struggle to define "two-way" play. Once again Marius was my favorite. league wide he was #5 in points, #1 in hits. #3 in steals (by a forward) and #3 in CF%. The rest of the group went with the staple nominations in Izzy and Cuddles, but I had to give a nod to Phelps this season. He was one of just 4 players to score 50 points and over 100 hits, and he's the only one to do it as a center. His 55.30% win percentage at the dot is top 10 as well. Digging in to advanced stats in CF% is one of the best in the league (top 10%). His steals and steals to turnover ratio aren't as spectacular though. Just under a point per game, Augustus led his team in scoring, had the best forward rating on the team and was third in hits. His CF% was sparkling, but his steals total and steals to turnover ratio weren't as good as any of the names mentioned above. Bojo Biscuit (Best Defensive Defenseman) 1. Toivo Kosonen ![]() 2. Richard Physt ![]() 3. Geoff Moore ![]() Final Vote: 1. Toivo Kosonen ![]() 2. Poopity Scoop ![]() 3. Ludwig Koch Schroder ![]() Comments: Donini Wrote:This was an interesting one for me, I feel because it's a new award and there isn't much of a standard for it yet that the field was really wide open and it reflected in the nominees. After seeing the final nominee list, I see that Scoop had a really strong case for the award but I think Kosonen was just a level above which is why I went with him first. It is close between the two though. Got Schroder last as I don't really agree with the same player being nominated for best defensive defenseman and best all around defenseman, kind of defeats the purpose of adding this award. Flacko Wrote:I relied a lot on the possession and takeaway metrics along with hits and shot blocks. I definitely used CF% and takeaways as a qualifier... I think around 52.5% and then I tried to pinpoint guys with takeaways at least a bit above average. Ultimately, as much as I feel a bit weird about it, Poopity Scoop was a clear standout in all these defensive metrics. I'm a bit disappointed guys like Bob Bergen and Nate Emerson didn't get more love... Bergen imo was criminally underrated. I think he was MVP caliber with his all around play. Scholz Wrote:Kosonen, Scoop, Walker - Again two of my nominations made it through to voting so I wasn't too upset here. I feel Scoop is the runaway favorite, given that all his numbers are the same as Kosenen except he actually hits too. Walker was my darkhorse in this one and only received the one nomination. I was a little shocked since he led the league in blocks, had more steals than Kosonen and Scoop, and a very nice 1.23 steals to turnover ratio. Again not as physical as Scoop though. Aidan Richan Award (Most Improved Player) 1. Aleister Cain ![]() 2. Dick Skillstedt ![]() 3. Viktor Marius ![]() Final Vote: 1. Aleister Cain ![]() 2. Viktor Marius ![]() 3. Dick Skillstedt ![]() Comments: Donini Wrote:For this one I actually changed my mind from the time of nominations to the time of final voting, I ended up putting Marius ahead of Skillstedt seeing as this may have been more of a one off for the retiring Skillstedt than a breakout like it was for Marius who emerged as one of the league's elite power forwards. I do however think that Cain was absolutely robbed in this award and should've won in a landslide. He was ineligible for the Jesster because of a technicality and should've been a shoe in for this award going from a backup goalie to an MVP caliber goaltender, an absolutely amazing breakout for him and I could see him winning some McBride trophies in his future if he keeps this play up. Flacko Wrote:There were a lot of guys who fit the bill in my opinion. But I think Marius and Skillstedt are the two best nominees as both went from good to outstanding. I think the nominations were quite on point here. Scholz Wrote:Kadinger, Marius, Skillstedt - Once again 2 of the 3 I nominated moved on to voting so I wasn't too shocked on this one. Marius established himself as one of the premier power forwards in the league this season. His lead leading 221 hits is over 5 times more than his career to date (48 through 6 seasons) which I thought was just insane. Toss on a career high 59 points and he's my favorite. My darkhorse was Karsten Kadinger who quietly doubled his career best in points while playing a bigger role for West Kendall. Hitting 20 points two times over the last 6 seasons, he pumped out 39 this year. I was hesitant to select Skillstedt because he's retiring (most improved... bye) but the stats were too juicy. Lance Uppercut Award (Best General Manager) 1. New Orleans Specters ![]() 2. Buffalo Stampede ![]() 3. Minnesota Chiefs ![]() Final Vote: 1. New Orleans Specters ![]() 2. Buffalo Stampede ![]() 3. Manhattan Rage ![]() Comments: Donini Wrote:I think it was close between the management of Buffalo and New Orleans but in the end the fact that New Orleans accomplished what they did with an expansion franchise is an unreal accomplishment and it just edges them for me. Joe McKeil Award (Best Coach) 1. Manhattan Rage ![]() 2. Tampa Bay Barracuda ![]() 3. Minnesota Chiefs ![]() Final Vote: 1. Manhattan Rage ![]() 2. Tampa Bay Barracuda ![]() 3. Minnesota Chiefs ![]() Comments: Donini Wrote:Nothing unexpected in this award as the three nominees ended up being the same three I thought should be nominated. I think both Tampa Bay and Manhattan make a good case but Manhattan just edges it for me mainly because of the contributions that Manhattan's coaching staff was able to get from their whole team while Tampa Bay got lots of help from their goaltending. Damian Littleton Award (Most Dedicated Member) 1. Baelor Swift - The commitment to trying to improve the league is obvious with the work done as awards committee head so far. Could've easily taken the job and just done the minimum required to keep the status quo but has gone above and beyond to question the system in place and make meaningful changes to improve the awards process. Also put in hours of work to create stats that the league has not had before and which can be useful in many aspects of the league. 2. JR95 - Not sure much of an explanation is needed but the simmer obviously dedicates a lot of time to the league and is extremely important to keep the league running. 3. luketd - Seems to be extremely involved in the community of the league and genuinely cares about improving the quality of the community within the forums. Has a big effect in one of the most important parts of the league's community as a lot of his activity is targeted towards rookies and the SMJHL, is always making an effort to comment on new players pages and creates quality content in the SMJHL media section to engage the league's younger members. Final Vote: 1. JR95 2. luketd 3. Mike Izzy Anton Razov Trophy (Playoff MVP) 1. Oliver Konig ![]() 2. Alexis Metzler ![]() 3. Sebastien Primeau ![]() Final Vote: 1. Oliver Konig ![]() 2. Kevin Hamilton ![]() 3. Joe Kurczewski ![]() Comments: Donini Wrote:I think Konig is an easy choice for me as he was definitely the most outstanding player on Buffalo's Challenge Cup run. Primeau is kind of an unorthodox nomination seeing as he didn't even make the finals but his numbers were just out of this world in the playoffs and Minnesota likely wouldn't even have won a round without his play being at the level that it was, I had to recognize that. Absolutely no surprise in the end to see Konig win it though. Thank you for joining us on this SHL Network awards panel, we hope you enjoyed this segment and that it may have cleared up some of the controversy regarding last night's award show. Code: Word Count: 4275 words RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - Eggy216 - 04-14-2019 This is a neat look inside the committee, glad you decided to put this together! RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - DeletedAtUserRequest - 04-14-2019 nice read ![]() 1 note though about the Dar... Bobby Watson - Watson was one of the league's best players offensively with an impressive 74 points and also did really well defensively with 24 blocks and 96 hits. Watson's 2.06 defensive point shares were 3rd best amongst forwards in the league and his 54.87 CF% made him a strong player on the puck as well. 88 hits for a dar nominee is low... usually the minimum is 125-140 hits or more .. also Watsons PK minutes were under 100 which is low for a dar nominee and his face off numbers sat around 35% ... you dont have to be a center to win the dar but face off percentage is a spot they typically look at.. Watson was absolutley a MVP nominee but im glad to see that the committee didnt spill the MVP award into the dar as the attributes that help define the dar are differant then the Mexico. RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - SlashACM - 04-14-2019 oh well. If some people dont think im most improved idk how to make them see that i was RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - WannabeFinn - 04-14-2019 We may not have lost free agents, but we lost two 1k+ TPE players to retirement (Vorkampfer, FourFour Jr.) and we lose two strong players to expansion (Atmey, Koenig). 4.5k+ combined TPE lost. RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - SlashACM - 04-14-2019 04-14-2019, 07:58 PMWannabeFinn Wrote: We may not have lost free agents, but we lost two 1k+ TPE players to retirement (Vorkampfer, FourFour Jr.) and we lose two strong players to expansion (Atmey, Koenig). 4.5k+ combined TPE lost. why were you so bad last season then RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - JSS - 04-14-2019 04-14-2019, 07:57 PMSlashACM Wrote: oh well. If some people dont think im most improved idk how to make them see that i was I don't believe you should've gotten a look for the Richan tbh. The rookie game limit rule is bullshit and you should've been nominated for ROTY. I think if you were a rookie, there wouldn't have been any talks for you at Richan. I don't think the argument that you went from a backup to posting top tier numbers your first year as a starter is fair because your main as a player role wasn't a backup, it was a SMJHL starter who sometimes got called up to backup games for the Blizzard. RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - SlashACM - 04-14-2019 04-14-2019, 08:01 PMJSS Wrote:04-14-2019, 07:57 PMSlashACM Wrote: oh well. If some people dont think im most improved idk how to make them see that i was i mean i looked at it as kind of a make up for not being eligible for ROTY and then i didnt win either RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - JSS - 04-14-2019 04-14-2019, 08:02 PMSlashACM Wrote:04-14-2019, 08:01 PMJSS Wrote: I don't believe you should've gotten a look for the Richan tbh. The rookie game limit rule is bullshit and you should've been nominated for ROTY. I think if you were a rookie, there wouldn't have been any talks for you at Richan. I don't think the argument that you went from a backup to posting top tier numbers your first year as a starter is fair because your main as a player role wasn't a backup, it was a SMJHL starter who sometimes got called up to backup games for the Blizzard. yea i look at it as a make up for not being eligble for ROTY too, I just think we shouldn't look at it that way and instead HO should've just maybe changed the rule RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - BDonini - 04-14-2019 04-14-2019, 07:56 PMMike Izzy Wrote: nice read Yea, I think the defensive point shares are what swayed me towards Watson a little. Honestly after Marius it was kinda open for me, I debated for a little over Watson, Bennett, Izzy and Atmey and in the end even though he only had 96 hits it was the underlying numbers that pushed me to put in Watson. re his faceoff%, it's a non factor imo. He only took 93 faceoff which is way too small of a sample size to make a difference. RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - SlashACM - 04-14-2019 04-14-2019, 08:04 PMJSS Wrote:04-14-2019, 08:02 PMSlashACM Wrote: i mean i looked at it as kind of a make up for not being eligible for ROTY and then i didnt win either i asked them to look at it and didnt hear back, too busy looking at how to remove tpe from pbps RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - JSS - 04-14-2019 04-14-2019, 08:04 PMSlashACM Wrote:04-14-2019, 08:04 PMJSS Wrote: yea i look at it as a make up for not being eligble for ROTY too, I just think we shouldn't look at it that way and instead HO should've just maybe changed the rule rip RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - BDonini - 04-14-2019 04-14-2019, 07:57 PMSlashACM Wrote: oh well. If some people dont think im most improved idk how to make them see that i was Honestly you were robbed of the Jesster more than anything. That 15 game rule puts goalies at a disadvantage because of the 6 game backup rule. RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - Leppish - 04-14-2019 Appreciate the shout out! Altho my offensive stats weren't as good as i'd like i feel like i really went under the radar this season overall. RE: Ex SHL Player Reveals S46 Award Votes - BDonini - 04-14-2019 04-14-2019, 07:58 PMWannabeFinn Wrote: We may not have lost free agents, but we lost two 1k+ TPE players to retirement (Vorkampfer, FourFour Jr.) and we lose two strong players to expansion (Atmey, Koenig). 4.5k+ combined TPE lost. Yea my voting wasn't perfect, I missed a lot of things like this since I only came back to the site on the first day of the season. I'll be able to do better next season having obviously been around to see and know all the little details like that. Btw the not losing free agents comment was something I considered as a positive not as a negative. |