Realism in the SHL: Reality or Myth
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Registered Somehow was a GM Quote:Originally posted by grimreaper@Jul 7 2017, 12:13 PM It's easy to do, though: injury slider at 1 or 2, every players' DU goes to 99, Injury Recovery at 6.
sarmo
Registered S2, S5, S12, S39 Challenge Cup Champion and The MVP Quote:Originally posted by grimreaper@Jul 7 2017, 12:13 PMCan't please everyone lol
Doubt is a dream killer
ArGarBarGar
Registered S39 Challenge Cup Champion
Did a test sim with the season starting lines, made it so no teams had players on more than a single line (other than 4th lines for defensemen because those don't exist IRL and Kian Hamilton because Manhattan doesn't have 12 forwards).
Top of the League Goals SHL Kian Hamilton (MAN) 41 VLAD McZehrl (BUF) 41 Luke Fleming (WIN) 41 Raven Silverwing (NEW) 38 Patrick Brumm (SEA) 36 Eduard Selich (BUF) 36 Damien Wert (TOR) 34 Kaapo Kekkonen (LAP) 34 Jaxson Reynolds (LAP) 34 1Mikko Linna (WKP) 50 34 NHL 1 – Sidney Crosby 44 2 – Nikita Kucherov 40 3 – Auston Matthews 40 4 – Brad Marchand 39 5 – Vladimir Tarasenko 39 6 – Jeff Skinner 37 7 – Patrick Laine 36 8 – Max Pacioretty 35 9 – Cam Atkinson 35 10 – Patrick Kane 34 Random Details % Stat is Team Number x 13 (9 forwards and 4 defense) Player Base Size NHL 390 SHL 196 60 Goal Scorers – 0 SHL 0 NHL 50 Goal Scorers – 0 SHL 0 NHL 40 Goal Scorers – 3 SHL 3 NHL 1.5% of SHL Players / 0.8% of NHL Players 30 Goal Scorers – 25 SHL 23 NHL 12.7% of SHL Players / 5.9% of NHL Players 20 Goal Scorers – 69 SHL 70 NHL 35.2% of SHL Players / 17.9% of NHL Players Assists SHL Wyatt Wollker (MAN) 66 Alonzo Garbanzo (MIN) 59 Ben Dover (HAM) 57 Eduard Selich (BUF) 57 Kian Hamilton (MAN) 54 Chris Crutchfield (LAP) 51 Ace Redding (MAN) 51 Alexis Metzler (BUF) 51 Lord Vader (TEX) 49 1Maximilian Wachter (BUF) 49 NHL 1 – Connor McDavid 70 2 – Nicklas Backstrom 63 3 – Ryan Getzlaf 58 4 – Victor Hedman 56 5 – Patrick Kane 55 6 – Erik Karlsson 54 7 – Henrik Zetterberg 51 8 – Mark Scheifele 50 9 – Leon Draisaitl 48 10 – Duncan Keith 47 Other Details 70 Assists - 0 SHL / 1 NHL 60 Assists - 1 SHL / 1 NHL 0.5% of SHL Players / 0.3% of NHL Players 50 Assists – 8 SHL / 6 NHL 4.1% of SHL Players / 1.2% of NHL Players 40 Assists – 40 SHL / 26 NHL 20.4% of SHL Players / 6.7% of NHL Players 30 Assists – 90 SHL / 165 NHL 45.9% of SHL Players / 42.3% of NHL Players Goalies SV% Michael McFadden (SEA) 0.919 2 Mikke Laukkanen (NEW) 0.918 3 Brett Broadway (EDM) 0.915 4 Jeff Kirkstone (TOR) 0.915 5 Casey Holmes (BUF) 0.914 6 Georgette Pel (TEX) 0.913 7 Robert Andersson (MIN) 0.912 8 Lukas Berger (WIN) 0.911 9 Mark Harter (POR) 0.910 10 Hunter Wong (CAL) 0.909 Note that the top-tier goals and assists take a dive, while the lower tier goals and assists shoot up significantly. Lots of people getting production, meaning lots more guys have something to look forward to in the sim. Minutes played also takes a huge downward trend: Viktor Svensson (EDM) 1,330 (26.60) Kian Hamilton (MAN) 1,322 (26.44) Wyatt Wollker (MAN) 1,298 (25.96) Chris Crutchfield (LAP) 1,280 (25.60) Klaus Wagner (WKP) 1,277 (25.54) Cynthia Taylor (TOR) 1,274 (25.48) Ben Dover (HAM) 1,273 (25.46) Scott Robertson (WIN) 1,273 (25.46) Alexis Metzler (BUF) 1,270 (25.40) Alonzo Garbanzo (MIN) 1,266 (25.32) Compared to the current season: Ben Dover (HAM) 38 1,131 (29.76) Bubba Nuck (CAL) 39 1,095 (28.07) Scott Robertson (WIN) 39 1,086 (27.84) Michael Boychuk (CAL) 39 1,080 (27.69) Big Manious (WIN) 39 1,076 (27.58) Alonzo Garbanzo (MIN) 39 1,076 (27.58) Lord Pretty Flacko (MIN) 39 1,073 (27.51) Mattias Holmberg (SEA) 39 1,068 (27.38) Nikolaus Scholz (EDM) 39 1,068 (27.38) Noctis Caelum (MIN) 39 1,064 (27.28) The top 10 players in minutes all have more minutes played than the number 1 minute-getter in the test sim. The only problem with this is that I made adjustments based on assumed ice time allocation with 4x3 lines, and GMs could very possibly tweak their own lines to make it so their top players play a lot more often. Would love to do a sim where GMs follow these rules as a test and try to get their top players as much ice time as possible. Could they feasibly do it?
Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen): 2nd in Goals (208), All-Time Assists Leader (765)*, All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587), All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)* *All-Time Leader Among All Skaters Player Profile | Update Thread
Chris-McZehrl
Registered S18, S23, S27, S34, S37, S46 Challenge Cup Champion
129 Points
Chris McZehrl III - Anchorage Armada Challenge Cup Wins: S18 - Seattle Riot (with Chris McZehrl)* S23 - New England Wolfpack (with Chris McZehrl)* S27 - Calgary Dragons (with VLAD McZehrl)** S34 - Manhattan Rage (with VLAD McZehrl) S37 - Winnipeg Jets (with VLAD McZehrl) S46 - Buffalo Stampede (with GOD McZehrl)* *first ever Challenge Cup of Franchise History **first ever Challenge Cup win after 0-3 in Finals Series Four Star Cup Wins: S24 - Vancouver Whalers (with VLAD McZehrl) S39 - St. Louis Scarecrows (with GOD McZehrl) SHL Hall of Fame Members: S24 - Chris McZehrl * (GP: 764 | G: 322 | A: 461 | P: 783 | +/-: +109) S40 - VLAD McZehrl * (GP: 653 | G: 333 | A: 361 | P: 694 | +/-: +141) *1st Ballot Hall of Famer small note: GOD McZehrl played at first as Defender and later as Forward!
bbp
Registered S20, S21 Challenge Cup Champion Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@Jul 7 2017, 01:52 PM What were your line %s? A league with those numbers would be healthier imo
ArGarBarGar
Registered S39 Challenge Cup Champion Quote:Originally posted by bbp@Jul 7 2017, 11:12 PM Buffalo Stampede 1 Eduard Selich Maximilian Wachter VLAD McZehrl 40 0 1 4 2 Nicolas Winter Steven Stamkos Jr. Pavel Bursyuk 30 0 1 4 3 Viktor Vorkämpfer Anton Fedorov Dickie Pecker 25 0 3 2 4 Dante Gallo Master Maguku Sekkusu Gan 5 0 1 4 Calgary Dragons 1 Randy Randleman Nicholas Pedersen Shane Gagner 38 0 1 4 2 Alex Mack Esa Anrikkanen Joe Kurczewski 32 0 1 4 3 Schnitinfritz Jagr Pierre-Luc Laflamme Sepp Reiter 30 0 2 3 4 Yorgen Bartenberry Vincent Matteo KriÅ¡s LabsvÄrds 0 0 0 5 Edmonton Blizzard 1 Nikolaus Scholz Reinis Aumeisters Theo Kane 49 0 0 5 2 Krysztof Kowalski Ivan Koroviev Ieuan Llewellyn 33 0 1 4 3 Harper Wright Henrik Vikstrom Mark Longford 18 0 3 2 4 Viktor Nerokov Ilmari Maatta Ryan Vas 0 0 0 5 Hamilton Steelhawks 1 Ronnie Westbrook Luke Atmey Kyle Kylrad 40 0 1 4 2 Isaac Kaiser Noro Wozy Brennan Kennedy 40 0 1 4 3 Casper Jakobsson Taro Eichelele Alex Berkis 20 0 4 1 4 Niall Brannan Frans Erichsen Robert Haugen 0 0 4 1 Los Angeles Panthers 1 Kaapo Kekkonen Sebastian Strange Jorma Ruutu 36 0 1 4 2 Chester Cunningham Ryan King Jaxson Reynolds 35 0 1 4 3 Jean-Luc Reflieux Nolan Angello Felix Herzog 29 0 1 4 4 Jaylor Toast Hans Moleman Hunter Johnson 0 0 1 4 Manhattan Rage 1 Kian Hamilton Harry Hans Ace Redding 47 0 1 4 2 Maximus Sarone Rurik Razin Tommy Creller 30 0 2 3 3 Kjell Eide Bryce Collins Blake Sherrill 23 0 3 2 4 Kian Hamilton Denis Lever Mike Ross 0 0 3 2 Minnesota Chiefs 1 Lord Pretty Flacko Terrance Nova Yuriy Starkonov 52 0 1 4 2 Derrick Glover Halfdan Thorstein Lochlann O'Rourke 36 0 1 4 3 Karl Hertzberg Nathan Russett Jack Dabkowski 7 0 2 3 4 Eugene Feist Cleo Green Cikgnar Konstantinov 5 0 2 3 New England Wolfpack 1 Mainio Makinen Raven Silverwing Patrikov Bure 35 0 0 5 2 Nathan Russell Dieter Dominique Ales Smirnov 30 0 1 4 3 Mikael Talo Tim Elliot Tim Buckner 25 0 1 4 4 Nathan Russell Bennett Jones Jason Forbrook 10 0 1 4 Portland Admirals 1 Jonathan Lundberg Kelly Rivet Pedro Sarantez 40 2 1 2 2 Geronimo Otto Chernika Banananov Jacob Renninger 35 0 2 3 3 Samee Iqbal Teemu Sirius Alex Reed 25 0 4 1 4 Willy Mack Dick Dastardly Jack Dore 0 0 2 3 Seattle Riot 1 Jack Burton Patrick Brumm Cory Knouse 40 0 0 5 2 Justs Sirmais Trevor Wilson David Benson 35 0 2 3 3 Teodors Cukurs Gunnar Rask Cameron Urbowicz 20 0 0 5 4 Danny Ridley Luka Zaitsev Zinaida Titova 5 0 0 5 Texas Renegades 1 Jack Durden Adam Falk Geoffrey Allen 29 0 1 4 2 Sven Karlsson Liam Kinsler Conklin Owen 27 0 1 4 3 Alexander Charlyb'y Rick James Vasily Horvat 24 0 1 4 4 Beau Bent Michael Burrows Zanarkand Abes 20 0 1 4 Toronto North Stars 1 Travis Kudleychuk Kristian Eriksson Reed Laing 32 0 1 4 2 Evandrus Jesster Zallerras Szlerchek Damien Wert 31 0 1 4 3 Dane Rowe Robb Wind Chris York 30 0 1 4 4 Patrick Kilgore Yason Vassilios Nicholas Flamel 7 0 3 2 West Kendall Platoon 1 Slappy McDoodle Alex Light Mikko Linna 42 0 2 3 2 Jon Ross Pietra Volkova Jed Lloren 40 0 2 3 3 Travis Jeziak Tony Flow Leafer Rielly 16 0 3 2 4 Nathan Dubas Stinkywink Dupoopoo The Carl Mountain 2 0 1 4 Winnipeg Jets 1 Luke Fleming Zach Evans Don Pellegrino 45 0 2 3 2 Jason Visser Corey Bearss Michael Burch 41 0 2 3 3 Vidrik Onoprienko Adam Greenholm Troy Lizben 7 1 0 4 4 Gord McKenzie Elyk Sami Free 7 0 1 4 There are some balanced lines, some not. Of course, the first reaction to some of these lines (like Edmonton's and Minnesota's) would be "well that just means that the top lines are going to get way more ice time! That actually doesn't end up happening. The sim balances the four lines accordingly and while it tries to emulate the ice time allocation, it doesn't allow you to just play your first line 50% of the game. Edmonton Blizzard Code: Lines # - Real PCT - Wanted PCT - Time Play Minnesota Chiefs Code: Lines # - Real PCT - Wanted PCT - Time Play Again, this is only me allocating the ice time quickly, and GMs could potentially find loopholes. I think we should at least do test sims with GMs being constrained by the "no doubleshifting" rule and see if when letting GMs choose their lines they will be able to get their best players tons of ice time.
Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen): 2nd in Goals (208), All-Time Assists Leader (765)*, All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587), All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)* *All-Time Leader Among All Skaters Player Profile | Update Thread
bbp
Registered S20, S21 Challenge Cup Champion Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@Jul 8 2017, 07:58 AM I really like this idea
r1c3bowl22
Registered Like... a bowl of rice.
These bbp articles are always pretty neat tbh
Sad there was no need for a coin flip this time
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