Buffalo stinx and I have political opinions. Also the HOF shall not stand to be disparaged.
Topics include:
01:30 Defending my HOF bois and general HOF takes (deep fuckin dive)
23:30 Thoughts on SMJHL in general
27:30 Historian Committee: what's up?
30:00 Summer plans
32:00 Minnesota tampering controversy thoughts
44:30 SHL Finals post-series discussion
46:25 Borromini Cannellini predictions
48:50 Favorite/least favorite fast-food joints (also political commentary)
01:00:00 I hate the Ilitch family
01:03:45 Talking music albums
01:09:20 My favorite comedians (Mitch Hedberg FTW)
Thanks @
JKortesi81 , @
Bonk , @
JT3 , and @
Wasty for questions.
Garbanzo Beancast Episode 28 All Past Beancasts
Also please listen to the following current podcasts/articles:
Cal and Trella do a Pod
Life on Autopilot
The Big Slappy Hour
Ace's Four Wheel Drive
The JoeKast
Podcast by Toivo
The Press Box
Blooscast
TSWM.02
The Big Dick Guys Podcast
Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen):
2nd in Goals (208),
All-Time Assists Leader (765)*,
All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587),
All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)*
*All-Time Leader Among All Skaters
Player Profile |
Update Thread Alonzo Garbanzo (Retired) | D | Minnesota Chiefs Age: 41 Height: 6'1" Weight: 185 lbs Number: 2 Player Type: TWD ------------------------------- SMJHL Regular Season Statistics (S20) MTL | GP: 40 | G: 8 | A: 21 | P: 29 | +/-: +13 | SB: 62 ------------------------------- SMJHL Playoff Statistics (S20) MTL | GP: 6 | G: 0 | A: 2 | P: 2 | +/-: -2 | SB: 9 ------------------------------- SHL Regular Season Statistics (S21-S43) MIN | GP: 1158 | G: 200 | A: 750 | P: 950 | +/-: Even | HIT: 2538 | SB: 1807 ------------------------------- SHL Playoff Statistics (S21-S41) MIN | GP: 139 | G: 20 | A: 89 | P: 109 | +/-: -19 | HIT: 291 | SB: 234 ------------------------------- IIHF Statistics (S21-S38) SWE | GP: 211 | G: 36 | A: 125 | P: 161 | +/-: +16 | HIT: 553 | SB: 325 ------------------------------- International Awards IIHF Gold Medal (S28, S29) IIHF Silver Medal (S21, S27, S35) IIHF Bronze Medal (S22, S23) ------------------------------- Transactions S20 | Drafted 3rd Overall to the Montreal Impact S21 | Drafted 2nd Overall to the Minnesota Chiefs ------------------------------- Notable Events S21 | Named Alternate Captain of the Minnesota Chiefs S23 | Named Captain of the Minnesota Chiefs S24 | 4th in Assists S24 | 4th in Defensemen Points S26 | 1st in Assists S26 | 1st in Defensemen Points S26 | 2nd in Penalty Minutes S27 | 1st in Defensemen Points S27 | T-1st in Defensemen Goals S27 | 1st in Blocked Shots S27 | 2nd in Game-Tying Goals S29 | 4th in Assists S29 | 5th in Defensemen Points S30 | 4th in Assists S30 | 4th in Defensemen Points S30 | T-3rd in Defensemen Goals S30 | 3rd in Blocked Shots S31 | 2nd in Assists S31 | 2nd in Defensemen Points S31 | 4th in Blocked Shots S32 | 2nd in Blocked Shots S33 | 1st in Blocked Shots S33 | 1st in Defenseman Points S33 | 3rd in Defenseman Goals S34 | 4th in Assists S34 | 2nd in Blocked Shots S34 | 4th in Defenseman Points S35 | 2nd in Defenseman Points S36 | 4th in Assists S36 | 5th in Blocked Shots S36 | T-1st in Defenseman Points S36 | T-4th in Defensemen Goals S37 | T-3rd in Assists S37 | T-3rd in Defensemen Goals S37 | 3rd in Defensemen Points S40 | 1st in Defenseman Points S40 | T-4th in Defensemen Goals S40 | 1st in Plus/Minus S41 | T-2nd in Power Play Goals ------------------------------- SHL All-Star Selections 9x SHL 1st Team (S26, S27, S30, S31, S33, S35, S36, S37, S40) 2x SHL 2nd Team (S24, S34) 2x SHL 3rd Team (S29, S32) ------------------------------- SHL Awards 5x Scott Stevens Trophy (S27, S31, S33, S37, S40) 1x Ron Mexico Trophy (S27) Aidan Richan Trophy (S24) 1x Challenge Cup (S39) 5x Scott Stevens Nominee (S24, S26, S30, S35, S36) 1x Ron Mexico Nominee (S31) 3x Damian Littleton Nominee (S26, S31, S40) 1x Challenge Cup Finalist (S40) Borromini Cannellini | C | Los Angeles Panthers Age: 16 Height: 6'-4" Weight: 210 lbs Number: 17 Player Type: SNP ------------------------------- SMJHL Regular Season Statistics (S45-S47) VAN | GP: 150 | G: 51 | A: 69 | P: 120 | +/-: +37 | HIT: 153 ------------------------------- SMJHL Playoff Statistics (S45-S47) VAN | GP: 27 | G: 11 | A: 10 | P: 21 | +/-: +5 | HIT: 24 ------------------------------- SHL Regular Season Statistics (S48-) ------------------------------- SHL Playoff Statistics (--) ------------------------------- IIHF Statistics (--) ------------------------------- International Awards ------------------------------- Transactions S45 | Drafted 7th Overall to the Vancouver Whalers S46 | Drafted 10th Overall to the Los Angeles Panthers
Tomen
06-02-2019, 06:49 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-02-2019, 07:14 AM by Tomen .)
Agree with your opinions on Manious and John Ross but it has to be said that he played 6/14 seasons as a defender just his player hasn't been up there individually in the regular season and all the other players you mentioned I would have them above him. Hopefully I can see the next Hall of Fame job opening in the future :D
Regarding the Tampering charge. I agree the punishment was too hard. From my POV the within reason makes sense in this instance and it's enough to brake that rule to get punished. Last season the Winnipeg Co-GM made an article saying:
Hey Winnipeg gets better , we need players that fit this kind of criteria the most (without tagging someone specifically and without explaining their playing time and role on the team if they sign and citing reasons as to why they should leave their current team). I think we both can agree that a post like the Winnipeg one is within reason compared to what Daco did.
Link to the Winnipeg article
Thank you all for the amazing sigs & player cards
S31 Eduard Selich || F || Buffalo Stampede || Peak: 1252 Name: Eduard Selich Hometown: Fulda, Germany Height: 5'11" Weight: 195 lbs Number: 19 Age: 29 ------------------------------------------------------------ Regular Season Career Statistics: SMJHL: S30 PGF | GP 50 | G 15 | A 12 | P 27 | -3 | PIM 8 | HIT 38 | SB 5 | S31 PGF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 20 | P 41 | -6 | PIM 18 | HIT 42 | SB 20 | SHL: S32 BUF | GP 50 | G 17 | A 19 | P 36 | +11 | PIM 6 | HIT 54 | SB 13 | S33 BUF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 25 | P 46 | +14 | PIM 12 | HIT 44 | SB 21 | S34 BUF | GP 50 | G 28 | A 35 | P 63 | +23 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 22 | S35 BUF | GP 50 | G 17 | A 17 | P 34 | -6 | PIM 12 | HIT 13 | SB 17 | S36 BUF | GP 50 | G 23 | A 24 | P 47 | +3 | PIM 2 | HIT 37 | SB 15 | S37 BUF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 27 | P 48 | +9 | PIM 25 | HIT 74 | SB 15 | S38 BUF | GP 50 | G 28 | A 27 | P 55 | +4 | PIM 44 | HIT 42 | SB 12 | S39 BUF | GP 50 | G 18 | A 21 | P 39 | +1 | PIM 10 | HIT 48 | SB 23 | S40 BUF | GP 50 | G 7 | A 15 | P 22 | -26 | PIM 9 | HIT 48 | SB 11 | S41 BUF | GP 50 | G 18 | A 17 | P 35 | +10 | PIM 2 | HIT 5 | SB 11 | S42 BUF | GP 50 | G 20 | A 21 | P 41 | +10 | PIM 0 | HIT 5 | SB 10 | S43 SEA | GP 50 | G 19 | A 19 | P 38 | +8 | PIM 12 | HIT 47 | SB 7 | ------------------------------------------------------------ Playoff Career Statistic: SMJHL: S30 PGF | GP 17 | G 8 | A 13 | P 21 | +7 | PIM 2 | HIT 10 | SB 3 | S31 PGF | GP 4 | G 0 | A 1 | P 1 | -5 | PIM 0 | HIT 4 | SB 2 | SHL: S32 BUF | Did not qualify S33 BUF | GP 5 | G 4 | A 1 | P 5 | +1 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 | S34 BUF | Did not qualify S35 BUF | GP 4 | G 2 | A 2 | P 4 | -3 | PIM 0 | HIT 5 | SB 1 | S36 BUF | GP 7 | G 6 | A 2 | P 8 | +6 | PIM 2 | HIT 10 | SB 1 | S37 BUF | GP 7 | G 2 | A 0 | P 2 | -3 | PIM 0 | HIT 12 | SB 0 | S38 BUF | Did not qualify S39 BUF | Did not qualify S40 BUF | Did not qualify S41 BUF | GP 7 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | -4 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 2 | S41 BUF | GP 5 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | -7 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 | S43 SEA | GP 6 | G 3 | A 0 | P 3 | -3 | PIM 4 | HIT 7 | SB 2 | ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF Round Robin Career Statistic: S30 GER | GP 10 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -4 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 0 | S31 GER | GP 10 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +2 | PIM 2 | HIT 4 | SB 1 | S32 GER | GP 10 | G 5 | A 4 | P 9 | +4 | PIM 0 | HIT 2 | SB 3 | S33 GER | GP 10 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +4 | PIM 2 | HIT 4 | SB 2 | S41 GER | GP 10 | G 4 | A 1 | P 5 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 1 | S42 GER | GP 10 | G 1 | A 2 | P 3 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 9 | SB 1 | ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF Medal Round Career Statistic: S30 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | +0 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 | S31 GER | GP 3 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 | S32 GER | GP 3 | G 1 | A 2 | P 3 | +4 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 | S33 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -1 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 | S41 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -1 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 | ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions: S30 | Drafted #20 in the SMJHL Entry Draft by the Prince George Firebirds S30 | Signed a 1yr/1.5M deal with Prince George Firebirds S31 | Drafted #2 in the SHL Entry Draft by the Buffalo Stampede S31 | Signed a 2yr/2M deal with Buffalo Stampede S32 | Signed an 23yr/23M extension with Buffalo Stampede S34 | Contract Adjustment: 3yr/9M deal with Buffalo Stampede S41 | Signed an 1yr/3M extension with Buffalo Stampede ------------------------------------------------------------ Noteable events: S30 | Voted Alternate Captain of Prince George Firebirds S30 | Organized WJC S30 | Got the call to play for Team Germany S30 | Won Zach Miller Trophy (Most Dedicated) S30 | Won Ron Bolt Trophy (Most Sportsmanlike) S30 | Won Ronan O'Keefe Trophy (Playoff Points Leader) S30 | Voted S30 PGF Team MVP S31 | Voted Captain of Prince George Firebirds S31 | Named Germany Federation Head and won the Silver Medal S31 | Nominated for Brandon Holmes Trophy (Top Defensive Forward) S31 | Nominated for Zach Miller Trophy ( Most Dedicated) S32 | Voted Alternate Captain of Buffalo Stampede S32 | Nominated for the Ryan Jesster Trophy ( ROTY) S32 | Named to the SHL All-Rookie Team S32 | won the Gold Medal with team Germany S33 | Named Buffalo Stampede Co-GM S33 | Damien Littleton Trophy Nominee S33 | Won Lance Uppercut Award S34 | Named 1st Team All-Star in the SHL S34 | Damien Littleton Trophy Nominee S34 | Aidan Richan Trophy Nominee S42 | Named Buffalo Stampede Co-GM Otto Selich||GM||GER S31-S34(26-9-2)||BUF(S33-S34,S42-)||1 Gold & 2x Silver ----------------------------------------------------------- Round Robin Career Statistics: S31 GER | 6-4-0 | 18 points | #1 seed Group A S32 GER | 8-1-1 | 22 points | #1 seed Group A S33 GER | 7-3-0 | 21 points | #1 seed Group A ------------------------------------------------------------ Medal Round Career Statistics: S31 GER | 2-1-0 | Silver medal | lost to USA in the Gold medal game S32 GER | 3-0-0 | won Gold Medal S33 GER | 0-0-1 | lost in Quarterfinals to Finland
S45 Alexander Selich || D || || Colorado Raptors || Peak: 2134 Name: Alexander Selich Hometown: Fulda, Germany Height: 6'10" Weight: 280 lbs Number: 19 Age: 18 ------------------------------------------------------------ Regular Season Career Statistics: SMJHL: S43 KEL | GP 9 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | 1 | PIM 0 | HIT 4 | SB 0 | S44 COL | GP 50 | G 12 | A 14 | P 26 | 8 | PIM 4 | HIT 23 | SB 11 | S45 COL | GP 50 | G 17 | A 16 | P 33 | 2 | PIM 12 | HIT 35 | SB 7 | ------------------------------------------------------------ Playoff Career Statistic: SMJHL: S43 KEL | GP 6 | G 1 | A 0 | P 1 | 0 | PIM 2 | HIT 2 | SB 0 | S44 COL | GP 16 | G 7 | A 5 | P 12 | +3 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 6 | ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF Round Robin Career Statistic: S43 GER | GP 14 | G 0 | A 3 | P 3 | 2 | PIM 4 | HIT 7 | SB 0 | S44 GER | GP 14 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | -10 | PIM 8 | HIT 7 | SB 4 | ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF Medal Round Career Statistic: S43 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | +0 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 | S44 GER | GP 2 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +1 | PIM 2 | HIT 2 | SB 0 | Transactions: S44 | Drafted #1 in the SMJHL Entry Draft by the Colorado Raptors S44 | Signed a 1yr/3M deal with Colorado Raptors S45 | Drafted #22 in the SHL Entry Draft by the Buffalo Stampede S45 | Signed a 3yr/1M deal with Buffalo Stampede Noteable events:
3. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 5 (Maximilian Wachter, Alexis Metzler) at 16:25
5. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 6 (Steven Stamkos Jr., Brynjar Tusk) at 19:48
8. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 7 (Brynjar Tusk, Alexis Metzler) at 13:55
9. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 8 (Anton Fedorov, Mikelis Grundmanis) at 15:12
10. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 9 (Dickie Pecker) at 19:43 (Empty Net)
.bojo
ztevans
I, for one, enjoyed the HOF commentary (failed to touch on this during the podcast I just recorded so commenting now, I suck). Was shocked at how much a certain name got thrown around in it, and not the guy you said shouldn't be in the conversation.
See all these teases I'm leaving here to get people to click?!? But seriously.
Zach Evans || Forward || Winnipeg Jets Name: Zach Evans Height: 6'1" Weight: 195 lbs Number: 18 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Career Statistics: S32 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 9, A: 5, P: 14, +/-: -1, PIMS: 12, H: 59 S33 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 8, A: 15, P: 23, +/-: 3, PIMS: 49, H: 106 S34 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 14, A: 14, P: 28, +/-: 7, PIMS: 46, H: 96 S35 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 22, A: 26, P: 48, +/-: -4, PIMS: 23, H: 113 S36 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 28, A: 30, P: 58, +/-: 23, PIMS: 51, H: 140 S37 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 24, A: 27, P: 51, +/-: 2, PIMS: 36, H: 220 S38 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 27. A: 38, P: 65, +/-: 12, PIMS: 45, H: 158 S39 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 32, P: 47, +/-: 11, PIMS: 43, H: 85 S40 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 22, A: 31, P: 53, +/-: 11, PIMS: 15, H: 49 S41 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 27, A: 35, P: 62, +/-: 26, PIMS: 34, H: 82 S42 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 29, P: 45, +/-: -3, PIMS: 15, H: 6 S43 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 29, P: 45, +/-: 11, PIMS: 27, H: 15 S44 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 14, A: 31, P: 45, +/-: 3, PIMS: 17, H: 17 S45 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 34, P: 49, +/-: 4, PIMS: 2, H: 27 CAREER: GP: 700, G: 257, A: 376, P: 633, +/-: 105, PIMS: 415, H: 1,173 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Playoff Statistics: S34 (WPG): GP: 5, G: 2, A: 1, P: 3, +/-: 0, PIMS: 4, H: 7 S36 (WPG): GP: 6, G: 0, A: 3, P: 3, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 16 S37 (WPG): GP: 18, G: 11, A: 14, P: 25, +/-: 19, PIMS: 12, H: 81 S38 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 6, A: 9, P: 15, +/-: 5, PIMS: 4, H: 32 S39 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 5, A: 6, P: 11, +/-: -2, PIMS: 6, H: 31 S40 (WPG): GP: 14, G: 5, A: 4, P: 9, +/-: 1, PIMS: 13, H: 7 S41 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 8, A: 6, P: 14, +/-: 3, PIMS: 9, H: 26 S43 (WPG): GP: 17, G: 4, A: 9, P: 13, +/-: 11, PIMS: 2, H: 4 S44 (WPG): GP: 18, G: 4, A: 15, P: 19, +/-: 7, PIMS: 0, H: 3 S45 (WPG): GP: 4, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 2 CAREER: GP: 121, G: 46, A: 69, P: 115, +/-: 41, PIMS: 50, H: 209 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Career Statistics: S30 (DET): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 12, P: 28, +/-: 8, PIMS: 10, H: 44 S31 (DET): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 23, P: 38, +/-: -2, PIMS: 35, H: 84 CAREER: GP: 100, G: 31, A: 35, P: 66, +/-: 6, PIMS: 45, H: 128 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Playoff Statistics: S30 (DET): GP: 5, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -1, PIMS: 2, H: 0 S31 (DET): GP: 13, G: 5, A: 7, P: 12, +/-: 3, PIMS: 0, H: 9 CAREER: GP: 18, G: 5, A: 8, P: 13, +/-: 2, PIMS: 2, H: 9 ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF Statistics (Russia): S30: GP: 11, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 7 S32: GP: 13, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: -4, PIMS: 4, H: 17 S33: GP: 11, G: 3, A: 6, P: 9, +/-: 5, PIMS: 4, H: 12 S34: GP: 11, G: 6, A: 2, P: 8, +/-: 2, PIMS: 2, H: 10 S35: GP: 13, G: 5, A: 4, P: 9, +/-: 4, PIMS: 18, H: 22 S36: GP: 11, G: 4, A: 3, P: 7, +/-: -3, PIMS: 2, H: 5 S37: GP: 10, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: 0, PIMS: 0, H: 8 S38: GP: 13, G: 3, A: 10, P: 13, +/-: 8, PIMS: 4, H: 5 S39: GP: 10, G: 6, A: 6, P: 12, +/-: 1, PIMS: 2, H: 11 S40: GP: 10, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -6, PIMS: 2, H: 8 S41: GP: 11, G: 4, A: 5, P: 9, +/-: 0, PIMS: 2, H: 7 S42: GP: 10, G: 5, A: 9, P: 14, +/-: 5, PIMS: 0, H: 1 S43: GP: 13, G: 4, A: 7, P: 11, +/-: 6, PIMS: 0, H: 0 S44: GP: 10, G: 4, A: 8, P: 12, +/-: 1, PIMS: 0, H: 0 S45: GP: 10, G: 6, A: 1, P: 7, +/-: -13, PIMS: 0, H: 2 CAREER: GP: 167 G: 54, A: 65, P: 119, +/-: 5, PIMS: 40, H: 105 ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions and Awards: Drafted 25th overall by Detroit, S30 SMJHL Entry Draft S30 Vyacheslav Onoprienko Trophy Winner Drafted 5th overall by Winnipeg, S31 SHL Entry Draft S32 Oriens Trophy Winner (Co-GM, Detroit) S32 IIHF Bronze Medalist S36 SHL Second-Team All-Star S37 Challenge Cup Champion S38 Sergei Karpotsov Trophy Winner S38 SHL First-Team All-Star S38 Sarmad Khan Trophy Winner S38 Jeff Dar Trophy Winner S38 Damian Littleton Trophy Winner S38 IIHF Gold Medalist S43 IIHF Silver Medalist S44 Challenge Cup Champion Inducted into SHL Hall of Fame, S47 ------------------------------------------------------------ Two things are infinite. Nikolai Evans || Defenseman || HAM/TBB/TEX Name: Nikolai Evans Height: 6'2" Weight: 210 lbs Number: 19 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Career Statistics: S47 (HAM): GP: 50, G: 1, A: 10, P: 11, +/-: -4, SB: 39, H: 32 S48 (HAM): GP: 50, G: 5, A: 9, P: 14, +/1: 6, SB: 57, H: 37 S49 (TBB): GP: 50, G: 9, A: 14, P: 23, +/-: -22, SB: 78, H: 51 S50 (TBB): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 20, P: 27, +/-: 4, SB: 64, H: 39 CAREER: GP: 200, G: 22, A: 53, P: 75, +/-: -16, SB: 238, H: 159 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Playoff Statistics: S48 (HAM): GP: 5, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -1, SB: 6, H: 3 S49 (TBB): GP: 12, G: 0, A: 5, P: 5, +/-: 0, SB: 20, H: 8 S50 (TBB): GP: 19, G: 5, A: 7, P: 12, +/-: 1, SB: 29, H: 6 CAREER: GP: 36, G: 6, A: 12, P: 18, +/-: 0, SB: 55, H: 17 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Career Statistics: S45 (MTL): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 13, P: 20, +/-: -1, SB: 60, H: 25 S46 (MTL/HFX): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 20, P: 27, +/-: -1, SB: 47, H: 68 CAREER: GP: 100, G: 14, A: 33, P: 47, +/-: -2, SB: 107, H: 93 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Playoff Statistics: S45 (MTL): GP: 6, G: 2, A: 3, P: 5, +/-: -1, SB: 7, H: 4 S46 (HFX): GP: 13, G: 3, A: 2, P: 5, +/-: -4, SB: 18, H: 14 CAREER: GP: 19, G: 5, A: 5, P: 10, +/-: -5, SB: 25, H: 18 ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF Statistics (Russia): S45: GP: 10, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -5, SB: 12, H: 2 S46: GP: 12, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -2, SB: 11, H: 2 S47: GP: 12, G: 2, A: 7, P: 9, +/-: 2, SB: 17, H: 12 S48: GP: 12, G: 2, A: 4, P: 6, +/-: -6, SB: 22, H: 0 S49: GP: 15, G: 6, A: 6, P: 12, +/-: -6, SB: 25, H: 7 CAREER: GP: 61, G: 10, A: 19, P: 29, +/-: -17, SB: 87, H: 23 ------------------------------------------------------------ WJC Statistics: S44 (World): GP: 15, G: 6, A: 7, P: 13, +/-: 8, SB: 18, H: 13 S45 (Russia): GP: 22, G: 2, A: 10, P: 12, +/-: -13, SB: 33, H: 14 S46 (Russia): GP: 28, G: 9, A: 15, P: 23, +/-: 0, SB: 26, H: 14 CAREER: GP: 55, G: 17, A: 32, P: 48, +/-: -5, SB: 77, H: 41 ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions and Awards: Drafted 1st overall by Montreal, S45 SMJHL Entry Draft Drafted 1st overall by Hamilton, S46 SHL Entry Draft Traded to Halifax Raiders during S46 SMJHL season Traded to Tampa Bay Barracuda prior to S49 SHL season S48 Fantasy Global Champion S50 Mathias Chouinard Trophy Winner I'll finish updating this at some point ------------------------------------------------------------ The Russian Prince Zdenko Beranek || Winger || Quebec City Citadelles Name: Zdenko Beranek Height: 5'10" Weight: 175 lbs Number: 27 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Career Statistics: S55 (QCC): GP: 50, G: 6, A: 15, P: 21, +/-: -22, PIMS: 6 S56 (QCC): GP: 50, G: 10, A: 27, P: 37, +/-: 9, PIMS: 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions and Awards: Drafted 1st overall by Quebec City, S55 SMJHL Entry Draft Drafted 18th overall by Seattle, S56 SHL Entry Draft ------------------------------------------------------------ Le Petite Chèvre
06-03-2019, 12:19 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2019, 01:22 AM by Slappydoodle .)
Still in the middle of listening, but one quick comment. In my view the systemic issue with the HOF is the reliance on award noms and wins. Awards and to a lesser degree points (which are effectively the same thing in this league) are the only things i ever hear referenced by HOF committee members.
Also, Manius played nineteen seasons. The Bojo box has all but one season of his career listed under the wrong spelling and one season under the proper one. @
.bojo
Pretty much agree with you across the board on the tampering discussion. We do cover it extensively on our latest as well.
You are losing touch with culture and society. Its called getting old, lol. Join the club
.bojo
06-03-2019, 12:19 AM Slappydoodle Wrote: .bojo
I'll fix that.
PenKnight
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06-03-2019, 03:01 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2019, 03:19 AM by PenKnight .)
What a great name!
Makes me think of Hummus... mmmmm Hummus!!
Trust me nobody remembers anything after enough time goes by.
It doesn't matter if you are in the SMJHL or SHL or NBA or NHL or whatever.
It's difficult to find anyone to tell you who won the last 20 Stanley Cups in order!
Enjoy your time and experiences cause the truth is that most people around you do not care LOL.
The one exception is grudges... people tend to hold onto them for very long periods of time!
We need to try our best to give each other positive reinforcement because negativity will repel new members or interest.
Wasty
06-03-2019, 12:19 AM Slappydoodle Wrote: .bojo
I would be curious to see how you would go about analyzing players from a HOF perspective. I think that no matter what there is no sure-fire way to truly compare and contrast players without some sort of variable that gets lost in the process. Players can earn points more than others based on circumstances beyond their control. Hits demonstrate physicality but how do we determine how much that physicality leads to success? Challenge Cups are a good measure of the proximity a player is to great success, but it being a team award there is a lot of context to try and figure out to what degree a player contributed (and even then we get sent back to the points vs. hits vs. minutes played etc. discussion that we see for career numbers). Who wins certain awards is determined based on the committee at the time. Would we consider All-Star nominations in the same kind of mindset as awards, rendering both of them redundant in a sense? Do we factor in the player's legacy for their team? If so, how do we do that?
This isn't me trying to out-debate you or anything, I am honestly curious for your perspective and if it could be implemented in the HOF in some capacity.
Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen):
2nd in Goals (208),
All-Time Assists Leader (765)*,
All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587),
All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)*
*All-Time Leader Among All Skaters
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Update Thread Alonzo Garbanzo (Retired) | D | Minnesota Chiefs Age: 41 Height: 6'1" Weight: 185 lbs Number: 2 Player Type: TWD ------------------------------- SMJHL Regular Season Statistics (S20) MTL | GP: 40 | G: 8 | A: 21 | P: 29 | +/-: +13 | SB: 62 ------------------------------- SMJHL Playoff Statistics (S20) MTL | GP: 6 | G: 0 | A: 2 | P: 2 | +/-: -2 | SB: 9 ------------------------------- SHL Regular Season Statistics (S21-S43) MIN | GP: 1158 | G: 200 | A: 750 | P: 950 | +/-: Even | HIT: 2538 | SB: 1807 ------------------------------- SHL Playoff Statistics (S21-S41) MIN | GP: 139 | G: 20 | A: 89 | P: 109 | +/-: -19 | HIT: 291 | SB: 234 ------------------------------- IIHF Statistics (S21-S38) SWE | GP: 211 | G: 36 | A: 125 | P: 161 | +/-: +16 | HIT: 553 | SB: 325 ------------------------------- International Awards IIHF Gold Medal (S28, S29) IIHF Silver Medal (S21, S27, S35) IIHF Bronze Medal (S22, S23) ------------------------------- Transactions S20 | Drafted 3rd Overall to the Montreal Impact S21 | Drafted 2nd Overall to the Minnesota Chiefs ------------------------------- Notable Events S21 | Named Alternate Captain of the Minnesota Chiefs S23 | Named Captain of the Minnesota Chiefs S24 | 4th in Assists S24 | 4th in Defensemen Points S26 | 1st in Assists S26 | 1st in Defensemen Points S26 | 2nd in Penalty Minutes S27 | 1st in Defensemen Points S27 | T-1st in Defensemen Goals S27 | 1st in Blocked Shots S27 | 2nd in Game-Tying Goals S29 | 4th in Assists S29 | 5th in Defensemen Points S30 | 4th in Assists S30 | 4th in Defensemen Points S30 | T-3rd in Defensemen Goals S30 | 3rd in Blocked Shots S31 | 2nd in Assists S31 | 2nd in Defensemen Points S31 | 4th in Blocked Shots S32 | 2nd in Blocked Shots S33 | 1st in Blocked Shots S33 | 1st in Defenseman Points S33 | 3rd in Defenseman Goals S34 | 4th in Assists S34 | 2nd in Blocked Shots S34 | 4th in Defenseman Points S35 | 2nd in Defenseman Points S36 | 4th in Assists S36 | 5th in Blocked Shots S36 | T-1st in Defenseman Points S36 | T-4th in Defensemen Goals S37 | T-3rd in Assists S37 | T-3rd in Defensemen Goals S37 | 3rd in Defensemen Points S40 | 1st in Defenseman Points S40 | T-4th in Defensemen Goals S40 | 1st in Plus/Minus S41 | T-2nd in Power Play Goals ------------------------------- SHL All-Star Selections 9x SHL 1st Team (S26, S27, S30, S31, S33, S35, S36, S37, S40) 2x SHL 2nd Team (S24, S34) 2x SHL 3rd Team (S29, S32) ------------------------------- SHL Awards 5x Scott Stevens Trophy (S27, S31, S33, S37, S40) 1x Ron Mexico Trophy (S27) Aidan Richan Trophy (S24) 1x Challenge Cup (S39) 5x Scott Stevens Nominee (S24, S26, S30, S35, S36) 1x Ron Mexico Nominee (S31) 3x Damian Littleton Nominee (S26, S31, S40) 1x Challenge Cup Finalist (S40) Borromini Cannellini | C | Los Angeles Panthers Age: 16 Height: 6'-4" Weight: 210 lbs Number: 17 Player Type: SNP ------------------------------- SMJHL Regular Season Statistics (S45-S47) VAN | GP: 150 | G: 51 | A: 69 | P: 120 | +/-: +37 | HIT: 153 ------------------------------- SMJHL Playoff Statistics (S45-S47) VAN | GP: 27 | G: 11 | A: 10 | P: 21 | +/-: +5 | HIT: 24 ------------------------------- SHL Regular Season Statistics (S48-) ------------------------------- SHL Playoff Statistics (--) ------------------------------- IIHF Statistics (--) ------------------------------- International Awards ------------------------------- Transactions S45 | Drafted 7th Overall to the Vancouver Whalers S46 | Drafted 10th Overall to the Los Angeles Panthers
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