skinners good, but im taking hall 10/10 times

I like Skinner's style alot but I think I would prefer have Hall

Its close but i'll go with Skinner.

RYAN RIELEY | LW | NEW ENGLAND WOLFPACK | 546 TPE
NAME: RYAN RIELEY
NATIONALITY: USA
HEIGHT: 6'4"
WEIGHT: 210 LBS
NUMBER: 89
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SMJHL CAREER STATS
S53 CAR: GP: 11, G: 2, A: 2, P: 4, +/-: -3, H: 16, CF: 34.9%, CF Rel: -5.1%
S54 COL: GP: 50, G: 8, A: 5, P: 13, +/-: -10, H: 99, CF: 49.8%, CF Rel: -8.9%
S55 QUE: GP: 50, G: 12, A: 7, P: 19, +/-: -17, H: 109, CF: 41.7%, CF Rel: +5.6%
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SHL CAREER STATS

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IIHF CAREER STATS
S54 SWE-JR: GP: 12, G: 1, A: 5, P: 6, +/-: +4, H: 29, CF: 50.6%, CF Rel: +8.9%
S55 USA-JR: GP: 12, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -3, H: 11, CF: 54.1%, CF Rel: -5.0%
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SMJHL PLAYOFF STATS
S53 CAR: GP: 4, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: E, H: 8, CF: 28.7%, CF Rel: -11.1%
S54 COL: GP: 5, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: -1, H: 11, CF: 43.5%, CF Rel: -7.2%
S55 QUE: GP: 10, G: 2, A: 1, P: 3, +/-: -5, H: 20, CF: 42.9%, CF Rel: +7.5%
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SHL PLAYOFF STATS

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IIHF MEDAL ROUND STATS
S54 SWE-JR: GP: 1, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: +1, H: 4, CF: 42.9%, CF Rel: -9.4%
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AWARDS:

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TRANSACTIONS:
S53: SIGNED DFA CONTRACT WITH THE CAROLINA KRAKEN
S54: DRAFTED 34TH OVERALL BY THE COLORADO RAPTORS IN THE SMJHL DRAFT
S54: LOANED FROM USA TO SWEDEN FOR THE WORLD JUNIORS
S55: DRAFTED 15TH OVERALL BY THE NEW ENGLAND WOLFPACK IN THE SHL DRAFT
S55: SIGNED A 1-YEAR, $3.0M ELC WITH NEW ENGLAND
S55: DRAFTED 7TH OVERALL BY QUEBEC CITY IN THE SMJHL EXPANSION DRAFT
S56: SIGNED A 2-YEAR, $6.0M EXTENSION WITH NEW ENGLAND


NICO GRØSS | RW | RETIRED
NAME: NICO GRØSS
NATIONALITY: SWITZERLAND
IIHF AFFILIATION: CZECHOSLOVAKIA
HEIGHT: 6'0"
WEIGHT: 198 LBS
NUMBER: 8
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SMJHL CAREER STATS
S37 COL: GP: 50, G: 11, A: 15, P: 26, +/-: -1, H: 93
S38 COL: GP: 50, G: 7, A: 25, P: 32, +/-: -5, H: 134
S39 COL: GP: 50, G: 2, A: 26, P: 28, +/-: +8, H: 85
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SHL CAREER STATS
S40 BUF: GP: 50, G: 1, A: 11, P: 12, +/-: -14, H: 148
S41 BUF: GP: 50, G: 1, A: 11, P: 12, +/-: -13, H: 146
S42 BUF: GP: 0, G: 0, A: 0, P: 0, +/-: E, H: 0
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IIHF CAREER STATS
S38 CZE: GP: 10, G: 0, A: 0, P: 0, +/-: -2, H: 22
S39 CZE: GP: 10, G: 0, A: 0, P: 0, +/-: -4, H: 18
S40 CZE: GP: 10, G: 0, A: 3, P: 3, +/-: -1, H: 23
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WJC CAREER STATS
S38 EU-C: GP: 5, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -6, H: 13
S39 EU-E: GP: 7, G: 0, A: 2, P: 2, +/-: -1, H: 17
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SMJHL PLAYOFF STATS
S37 COL: GP: 7, G: 0, A: 3, P: 3, +/-: +1, H: 15
S38 COL: N/A
S39 COL: GP: 5, G: 1, A: 3, P: 4, +/-: +1, H: 11
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SHL PLAYOFF STATS
S40 BUF: N/A
S41 BUF: GP: 7, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: +1, H: 23
S42 BUF: TBD
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IIHF MEDAL ROUND STATS
S38 CZE: N/A
S39 CZE: N/A
S40 CZE: N/A
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AWARDS:

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TRANSACTIONS:
S37: DRAFTED 3RD OVERALL IN THE SMJHL DRAFT BY COLORADO
S37: SIGNED 1 YEAR/$3.0M JUNIOR CONTRACT WITH COLORADO
S38: DRAFTED 6TH OVERALL IN THE SHL DRAFT BY BUFFALO
S38: SIGNED 2 YEAR/$5.0M ELC WITH BUFFALO
S38: TRANSFERRED IIHF AFFILIATION TO CZECHOSLOVAKIA
S38: NAMED TO TEAM EUROPE - CENTRAL FOR THE WORLD JUNIORS
S39: NAMED TO TEAM EUROPE - WEST FOR THE WORLD JUNIORS
S39: SIGNED 2 YEAR/$8.0M EXTENSION WITH BUFFALO
S41: SIGNED 3 YEAR/$12.0M EXTENSION WITH BUFFALO


CASEY HOLMES | G | RETIRED
NAME: CASEY HOLMES
NATIONALITY: USA
HEIGHT: 6'3"
WEIGHT: 185 LBS
NUMBER: 30
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SMJHL CAREER STATS
S28 STL: 42GP, 18W, 3.21GAA, .872SV%, 4SO
S29 STL: 44GP, 26W, 2.70GAA, .890SV%, 2SO
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SHL CAREER STATS
S30 BUF: 32GP, 10W, 3.43GAA, .894SV%, 1SO
S31 BUF: 44GP, 15W, 2.95GAA, .904SV%, 3SO
S32 BUF: 41GP, 17W, 2.87GAA, .907SV%, 3SO
S33 BUF: 44GP, 21W, 2.85GAA, .907SV%, 3SO
S34 BUF: 44GP, 16W, 3.29GAA, .902SV%, 2SO
S35 BUF: 44GP, 18W, 2.69GAA, .909SV%, 3SO
S36 BUF: 44GP, 27W, 2.81GAA, .908SV%, 2SO
S37 BUF: 45GP, 23W, 2.86GAA, .909SV%, 3SO
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IIHF CAREER STATS
S34 USA: 10GP, 5W, 2.50GAA, .912SV%, 0SO
S35 USA: 10GP, 7W, 3.30GAA, .881SV%, 0SO
S36 USA: 10GP, 4W, 3.65GAA, .884SV%, 0SO
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SMJHL PLAYOFF STATS
S28 STL: 5GP, 1W, 3.54GAA, .864SV%, 0SO
S29 STL: 16GP, 12W, 2.37GAA, .902SV%, 1SO
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SHL PLAYOFF STATS
S30 BUF: N/A
S31 BUF: N/A
S32 BUF: N/A
S33 BUF: 5GP, 1W, 3.78GAA, .895SV%, 0SO
S34 BUF: N/A
S35 BUF: 3GP, 0W, 4.02GAA, .896SV%, 0SO
S36 BUF: 7GP, 3W, 2.50GAA, .903SV%, 1SO
S37 BUF: 7GP, 3W, 2.15GAA, .936SV%, 0SO
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IIHF MEDAL ROUND STATS
S34 USA: 3GP, 3W, 1.33GAA, .946SV%, 2SO
S35 USA: 1GP, 0W, 3.19GAA, .902SV%, 0SO
S36 USA: N/A
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AWARDS:
S29 FOUR STAR CUP CHAMPION (STL)
S29 JERMAINE TENNYSON AWARD (BEST SMJHL GOALTENDER)
S34 IIHF GOLD MEDALIST (USA)
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TRANSACTIONS:
S28: SELECTED 3RD OVERALL (1ST ROUND) BY STL IN SMJHL DRAFT
S29: JOINED THE BUFFALO STAMPEDE
S29: SIGNED 1 YEAR/$1.000M ELC WITH BUF
S30: SIGNED 3 YEAR/$3.000M EXTENSION WITH BUF
S33: SIGNED 1 YEAR/$3.000M EXTENSION WITH BUF
S34: SIGNED 3 YEAR/$6.000M EXTENSION WITH BUF
S37: SIGNED 1 YEAR/$2.000M EXTENSION WITH BUF
S37: RETIRED


ADRIAN THOMAZ | C | RETIRED
NAME: ADRIAN THOMAZ
NATIONALITY: FINLAND
HEIGHT: 6'4"
WEIGHT: 220 LBS
NUMBER: 15
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SMJHL CAREER STATS
S19 STL: GP: 40, G: 7, A: 11, P: 18, +/-: +6
S20 STL: GP: 40, G: 11, A: 16, P: 27, +-: -6
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SHL CAREER STATS
S21 LAP: GP: 52, G: 11, A: 31, P: 42, +/-: E, H: 11
S22 LAP: GP: 52, G: 18, A: 25, P: 43, +/-: +9, H: 30
S23 LAP: GP: 52, G: 13, A: 25, P: 38, +/-: +2, H: 10
S24 LAP: GP: 52, G: 9, A: 30, P: 39, +/-: +17, H: 41
S25 BUF: GP: 50, G: 14, A: 28, P: 42, +/-: -3, H: 65
S26 BUF: GP: 50, G: 15, A: 26, P: 41, +/-: -8, H: 132
S27 BUF: GP: 50, G: 20, A: 23, P: 43, +/-: +7, H: 213
S28 BUF/WKP: GP: 49, G: 15, A: 28, P: 43, +/-: -2, H: 99
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SMJHL PLAYOFF STATS
S19 STL: GP: 15, G: 1, A: 4, P: 5, +/-: +3
S20 STL: GP: 19, G: 6, A: 10, P: 16, +/-: +7
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SHL PLAYOFF STATS
S21 LAP: GP: 5, G: 0, A: 3, P: 3, +/-: -1
S22 LAP: GP: 18, G: 4, A: 8, P: 12, +/-: +1
S23 LAP: GP: 7, G: 3, A: 2, P: 5, +/-: -1
S24 LAP: GP: 18, G: 8, A: 15, P: 23, +/-: +14
S25 BUF: N/A
S26 BUF: N/A
S27 BUF: N/A
S28 WKP: GP: 14, G: 5, A: 3, P: 8, +/-: +3
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AWARDS:
S20 FOUR STAR CUP CHAMPION (STL)
S21 POTOCZNY AWARD WINNER (LAP TEAM AWARD)
S27 JEFF DAR TROPHY NOMINEE
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TRANSACTIONS:
S19: SELECTED 24TH OVERALL (4TH ROUND) BY STL IN SMJHL DRAFT
S20: SELECTED 14TH OVERALL (2ND ROUND) BY LAP IN SHL DRAFT
S20: SIGNED 3 YEAR/$6.000M ELC WITH LAP
S21: NAMED ALTERNATE CAPTAIN FOR LAP
S22: SIGNED 6 YEAR/$26.000M EXTENSION WITH LAP
S25: JOINED THE BUFFALO STAMPEDE VIA EXPANSION
S26: RESTRUCTURED CONTRACT TO 3 YEARS/$9.000M WITH BUF
S28: TRADED FROM BUFFALO TO WEST KENDALL
S28: RETIRED


ANTERO SALMELAINEN | LW | RETIRED
NAME: ANTERO SALMELAINEN
NATIONALITY: FINLAND
HEIGHT: 6'5"
WEIGHT: 215 LBS
NUMBER: 32
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NWJHL CAREER STATS
S7 VAN: GP: 37, G: 26, A: 25, P: 51
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SHL CAREER STATS
S8-S19: GP: 600, G: 175, A: 204, P: 379
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NWJHL PLAYOFF STATS
S7 VAN: GP: 7, G: 5, A: 9, P: 14
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SHL PLAYOFF STATS
STATS LOST
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AWARDS:
S17 CHALLENGE CUP CHAMPION (LAP)
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TRANSACTIONS:
S7: DRAFTED 1ST OVERALL BY VANCOUVER IN NWJHL
S7: NAMED CAPTAIN OF WHALERS
S8: DRAFTED 1ST OVERALL BY EDMONTON IN SHL
S8: SIGNED 3-YEAR ELC WITH EDMONTON
S8: TRADED FROM EDMONTON TO WEST KENDALL
S11: SIGNED 5-YEAR, $15.000 M DEAL WITH WEST KENDALL
S12: TRADED FROM WEST KENDALL TO TEXAS
S12: TRADED FROM TEXAS TO CALGARY
S15: TRADED FROM CALGARY TO LOS ANGELES
S18: TRADED FROM LOS ANGELES TO NEW ENGLAND


BRANDON HOLMES | RW | HALL OF FAME | STAMPEDE FOUNDER
NAME: BRANDON HOLMES
NATIONALITY: USA
HEIGHT: 6'2"
WEIGHT: 208 LBS
NUMBER: 17
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NWJHL CAREER STATS
PGF: GP: 20, G: 12, A: 10, P: 22
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SHL CAREER STATS
WKP: GP: 220, G: 82, A: 97, P: 179
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NWJHL PLAYOFF STATS
PGF: GP: 10, G: 7, A: 7, P: 14
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SHL PLAYOFF STATISTICS
WKP: GP: 45, G: 18, A: 20, P: 38
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AWARDS:
S1 BRANDON HOLMES AWARD WINNER
S1 FOUR STAR CUP CHAMPION (PGF)
S2 CHALLENGE CUP CHAMPION/(WKP)
S3 ALL-STAR GAME MVP
S3 MATHIAS CHOUINARD AWARD WINNER
S4 IHF TOURNAMENT GOLD MEDALIST (USA)
S5 CHALLENGE CUP CHAMPION (WKP)
INDUCTED INTO SHL HALL OF FAME
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TRANSACTIONS:
DRAFTED 4TH OVERALL BY WEST KENDALL IN THE S2 DRAFT
SIGNED 3-YR/$7.5MIL DEAL WITH WEST KENDALL
NAMED ALTERNATE CAPTAIN OF THE PLATOON FOR S3
SIGNED 3-YR/$6 MIL EXTENSION WITH WEST KENDALL

You can say Hall has more potential. Skinner is currently the better player.

Originally posted by Daco@May 11 2012, 07:47 PM
You can say Hall has more potential. Skinner is currently the better player.

how do you figure he is a better player?

Originally posted by JayTee@May 11 2012, 11:08 PM


how do you figure he is a better player?

Things like these are so close that obviously they are opinion. But I'd say he is because of his impressive numbers in a supporting role, whereas Hall has been more of the primary offense for his team and done about the same. Although this year Hall was better, that can kind of be expected the year after someone wins the calder with a sophomore slump.

Originally posted by Daco@May 11 2012, 08:24 PM


Things like these are so close that obviously they are opinion. But I'd say he is because of his impressive numbers in a supporting role, whereas Hall has been more of the primary offense for his team and done about the same. Although this year Hall was better, that can kind of be expected the year after someone wins the calder with a sophomore slump.

yee good reasoning. That i can see being a reason to think Skinner is a better player. I got nothing lol

Originally posted by JayTee@May 11 2012, 11:26 PM


yee good reasoning. That i can see being a reason to think Skinner is a better player. I got nothing lol

I saw it a lot back when CoHo was with Van.. comparisons to Tavares. Obviously Tavares is better, but imagine what Cody could do with 1st line minutes and the same opportunity as him to have a season to work through fuckups. In that way some players just can't be compared too well.

Originally posted by Daco@May 11 2012, 08:31 PM


I saw it a lot back when CoHo was with Van.. comparisons to Tavares. Obviously Tavares is better, but imagine what Cody could do with 1st line minutes and the same opportunity as him to have a season to work through fuckups. In that way some players just can't be compared too well.

I agree with you on the can't compare players like that. However on that whole imagine if he had first line minutes, it could be said that the nucks made coho who he was given the make-up of the team. Who knows tho, he should have a good chance to prove him self in this upcoming season