also inb4 ofer is promoted to new SHL co-commish
Ragnar
Quote: Originally posted by Schultzy @May 25 2015, 11:57 PMOmg a thread that's actually about Dave!
Every single thread I've ever made is about Dave.
Sigs by Me, Merica, High Stick King, Rum_Ham, Jess, vulfzilla, enigmatic, and Carpy
Brian Morley | LAP | S30 Hall of Fame ——————————— CAREER AWARDS/ACCOMPLISHMENTS: 1x Challenge Cup (S17) 2x 1st All-Star Team (S22, S24) 1x 2nd All-Star Team (S23) 1x Sergei Karpotsov Trophy (S22) 2x Jay McDonald Trophy (S22, S24) 2x Damian Littleton Nominee (S21) 2x Ron Mexico Nominee (S22, S23) 2x Jeff Dar Nominee (S23, S24) First, second and fifth most goals in a season in the 52 game era Second most points in a season in the 52 game era Second most goals by a player in Los Angeles Panthers franchise history Second most points by a player in Los Angeles Panthers franchise history Most goals, assists and points by a player drafted in S14 ——————————— CAREER STATS: 758 GP: 265 Goals, 328 Assists, 593 Points
Chimkin Wing | Right Wing | Retired Beef Cake Jersey Number: 35 Height: 6ft 8in Weight: 225 lbs Birthplace: Zrenjanin, Serbia ——————————— Signed as a free agent in S55 with the Anchorage Armada Drafted 47th overall in the S56 SHL draft by the Buffalo Stampede ——————————— SMJHL REGULAR SEASON STATS: S55: GP: 10 | W: 5 | L: 4 | OTL: 0 | GAA: 2.31 | SV%: .910 | SO: 1 S56: GP: 26 | W: 12 L: 8 | OTL: 3 | GAA: 2.59 | SV%: .893 | SO: 2 S57: GP: 53 | W: 33 L: 12 | OTL: 7 | GAA: 2.02 | SV%: .920 | SO: 8 S58: GP: 51 | W: 27 L: 22 | OTL: 2 | GAA: 2.11 | SV%: .927 | SO: 8 SMJHL PLAYOFF STATS: S57: GP: 16 | W: 12 L: 3 | OTL: 1 | GAA: 1.86 | SV%: .926 | SO: 1 S58: GP: 21 | W: 13 L: 7 | OTL: 1 | GAA: 2.56 | SV%: .906 | SO: 0 ——————————— SHL REGULAR SEASON STATS: S58: GP: 3 | W: 2 | L: 0 | OTL: 1 | GAA: 1.95 | SV%: .880 | SO: 1 S59: GP: 66 | G: 8 | A: 26 | P: 34 | +/-: 38 | PIM: 16 S60: GP: 66 | G: 19 | A: 23 | P: 42 | +/-: 32 | PIM: 12 S61: GP: 66 | G: 11 | A: 31 | P: 42 | +/-: 36 | PIM: 38 S62: GP: 66 | G: 4 | A: 38 | P: 42 | +/-: 34 | PIM: 12 S63: GP: 66 | G: 6 | A: 28 | P: 34 | +/-: 7 | PIM: 19 S64: GP: 66 | G: 36 | A: 54 | P: 90 | +/-: 44 | PIM: 16 S65: GP: 66 | G: 44 | A: 41 | P: 85 | +/-: 18 | PIM: 18 S66: GP: 66 | G: 27 | A: 54 | P: 81 | +/-: 12 | PIM: 34 S67: GP: 66 | G: 20 | A: 55 | P: 75 | +/-: -10 | PIM: 44 S68: GP: 66 | G: 33 | A: 57 | P: 90 | +/-: 32 | PIM: 20 S69: GP: 66 | G: 32 | A: 59 | P: 91 | +/-: 31 | PIM: 34 S70: GP: 66 | G: 12 | A: 64 | P: 76 | +/-: 31 | PIM: 26 S71: GP: 66 | G: 23 | A: 38 | P: 61 | +/-: 22 | PIM: 26 S72: GP: 66 | G: 22 | A: 33 | P: 55 | +/-: 0 | PIM: 34 S73: GP: 66 | G: 17 | A: 39 | P: 56 | +/-: 21 | PIM: 20 S74: GP: 66 | G: 29 | A: 38 | P: 67 | +/-: 28 | PIM: 20 TOT: GP: 1056 | G: 343 | A: 678 | P: 1021 | +/-: 376 | PIM: 389 SHL PLAYOFF STATS: S59: GP: 19 | G: 2 | A: 7 | P: 9 | +/-: -2 | PIM: 4 S60: GP: 22 | G: 6 | A: 15 | P: 21 | +/-: 12 | PIM: 4 S61: GP: 9 | G: 1 | A: 5 | P: 6 | +/-: 7 | PIM: 2 S62: GP: 9 | G: 2 | A: 3 | P: 5 | +/-: 3 | PIM: 2 S63: GP: 12 | G: 1 | A: 4 | P: 5 | +/-: 2 | PIM: 0 S64: GP: 11 | G: 4 | A: 8 | P: 12 | +/-: 2 | PIM: 2 S65: GP: 18 | G: 12 | A: 14 | P: 26 | +/-: 12 | PIM: 0 S66: GP: 16 | G: 4 | A: 9 | P: 13 | +/-: -2 | PIM: 2 S67: GP: 4 | G: 1 | A: 2 | P: 3 | +/-: -2 | PIM: 0 S68: GP: 17 | G: 10 | A: 17 | P: 27 | +/-: 6 | PIM: 10 S69: GP: 4 | G: 1 | A: 4 | P: 5 | +/-: -5 | PIM: 2 S70: GP: 7 | G: 2 | A: 1 | P: 3 | +/-: -2 | PIM: 2 S71: GP: 21 | G: 7 | A: 17 | P: 24 | +/-: 6 | PIM: 4 S72: GP: 5 | G: 0 | A: 1 | P: 1 | +/-: -4 | PIM: 0 S73: GP: 6 | G: 1 | A: 6 | P: 6 | +/-: 0 | PIM: 2 S74: GP: 9 | G: 0 | A: 2 | P: 2 | +/-: -3 | PIM: 4 TOT: GP: 189 | G: 54 | A: 114 | P: 168 | +/-: 34 | PIM: 40 ——————————— AWARDS AND ACCOLADES: S55 Matt Lewis-Flood Trophy S57 Four Star Cup Champion S57 SMJHL Second All Star Team S57 Brodie Witzel Trophy - Playoffs MVP S58 SMJHL First All Star Team S58 Matt Lewis-Flood Trophy S58 Cedric Robinson Trophy - Best Goalie S60 Challenge Cup Champion S64 Named Buffalo Stampede Captain S64 Aidan Richan Award S69 SHL All Star S71 Challenge Cup Champion
Ongo Gablogian, the art collector | RD | Carolina Kraken --------------------------------------------- Charmed, I'm sure --------------------------------------------- Jersey Number: 0 Height: 4 ft 10in Weight: 290 lbs Birthplace: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania --------------------------------------------- Drafted 8th overall by the Carolina Kraken in S74 Drafted 39th overall by the Buffalo Stampede in S75 --------------------------------------------- REGULAR SEASON STATS S74: GP: 66 | G: 3 | A: 22 | P: 25 | +/-: -16 | PIM: 32 | HITS: 109 S75: GP: 66 | G: 8 | A: 18 | P: 26 | +/-: -9 | PIM: 38 | HITS: 126 S76: GP: 66 | G: 6 | A: 25 | P: 31 | +/-: +52 | PIM: 26 | HITS: 112 S77: GP: 66 | G: 13 | A: 37 | P: 50 | +/-: -8 | PIM: 41 | HITS: 120 TOT: GP: 264 | G: 30 | A: 203 | P: 132 | +/-: +19 | PIM:13 | HITS: 112 --------------------------------------------- PLAYOFF STATS S74: DNQ S75: GP: 12 | G: 0 | A: 1 | P: 1 | +/-: -2 | PIM: 6 | HITS: 22 S76: GP: 20 | G: 0 | A: 11 | P: 11 | +/-: 0 | PIM: 14 | HITS: 43 S77: GP: 11 | G: 2 | A: 7 | P: 9 | +/-: -1 | PIM: 6 | HITS: 14 TOT: GP: 32 | G: 2 | A: 19 | P: 21 | +/-: -3 | PIM: 26 | HITS: 79 --------------------------------------------- AWARDS AND ACCOLADES S76 Alex Metzler Award
❤!! RIP to the big homies 701 and Mac !!❤
Schultzy
Quote: Originally posted by gorlab @May 26 2015, 01:14 AMalso inb4 ofer is promoted to new SHL co-commish
Ive only had the job for like 5 minutes and you're replacing me? <_<
Teemu Sirius | RW | RETIRED Name: Teemu Sirius Position: Right Wing Height: 6’2” Weight: 198 pounds Born: Finland Player Type: Offensive Forward
Seppo Repo | C | RETIRED Name: Seppo “The Finnisher” Repo Position: Center Height: 6’6” Weight: 245 pounds Born: Helsinki, Finland Player Type: Enforcer
Rider Clitsome | RW | RETIRED - SHL Hall of Fame Name: Rider Clitsome Position: RW Overall: 80 Player Type: Sniper Shoots: Right Height: 5’9” Weight: 170 lbs Born: West Germany ------------------------------------------------------------ S20 SMJHL DRAFT : Drafted 2nd overall by the Vancouver Whalers S21 SHL DRAFT: Drafted 5th overall by the Hamilton Steelhawks CONTRACTS: Signed a 1 year $2m contract with the Vancouver Whalers for S20 in the SMJHL S21: Signed 3yr $15m ELC with the Hamilton Steelhawks S23: Signed 1yr $4m extension for S24 with Hamilton REGULAR SEASON STATS: SMJHL: S20: 40gp l 13g l 15a l 28pts l +20 l 6PIMs l 19 Hits l 71 Shots l 2 SB l 18.07 AMG SHL: SHL REGULAR SEASON TOTALS: 557gp l 211g l 222a l 433pts l +37 l 127 PIMs l 309 Hits l 2107 Shots l 142 SB PLAYOFF STATS: SMJHL: S20: 7gp l 1g l 4a l 5pts l +1 l 2PIMs l 2Hits l 13 Shots l 0 SB l 16.74 AMG SHL: S21: 18gp l 4g l 2a l 6pts l +/-0 l 2 PIMs l 1 Hits l 42 Shots l 7 SB l 20.20 AMG SHL PLAYOFF TOTALS: ACHIEVEMENTS: S22 Damian Littleton Trophy for Dedication S22 Finished #50 in SHL Point Scoring S23 Ranked #82 on Top 100 Players of Today S23 Finished 6th in Points/20mins in SHL S23 Finished #34 in SHL Point Scoring S23 Damian Littleton Trophy for Dedication S24 Ranked #45 on Top 100 Players of Today S24 Challenge Cup Champion S25 Ranked #64 on Top 100 Players of Today S26 Ranked #56 on Too 100 Players of Today S26 Challenge Cup Champion S26 IIHF Silver Medal -Germany S27 Ranked #67 on Too 100 Players of Today S28 Ranked #13 on Top 100 Players of Today S29 Ranked #4 on Top 100 Players of Today S30 Ranked #5 on Top 100 Players of Today S29 SHL Record. Tied 3rd All Time Goals Per Season Record. 30 goals. S29 Anton Razov Trophy for Playoff MVP (losing team) 7/20/16 became highest paid player in SHL history with 1yr @ $25m free agency contract with TOR for S30 S29 1st Team All Star S30 Vancouver Whalers Hall of Fame Signed 1year $7m contract with Buffalo Stampede for S31 final season S31 Ranked #31 on Top 100 Players of Today Traded to New England Wolfpack at S31 deadline 5th All Time Hamilton Steelhawks Scoring Leaders S31 Challenge Cup Champion S31 IIHF Silver Medal-Germany
Roman Schultz | D | RETIRED - Hamilton Steelhawks Hall of Fame Name: Roman Schultz Position: Defense Overall: 84 Player Type: Defensive Defenseman Shoots: Left Height: 6’8” Weight: 250 lbs Number: 55 Birthplace: Natick, Massachusetts ------------------------------------------------------------ DRAFTS: Selected 1st Overall S10 NWJHL Entry Draft by Montreal Impact Selected 5th Overall S11 SHL Entry Draft by Hamilton Steelhawks CONTRACTS: 1 year at $750,000 with Montreal Impact with a NTC 2 years at $3m for S11 & $4m in S12 with Hamilton Steelhawks 4 yr ext. with Hamilton Steelhawks $3.5m for S13&S14 and $3m for S15 and $2m for S16 1 year extension for S17 at $3m with Hamilton Steelhawks 4 year extension for S18-S21 at $5m each +NTC with Hamilton Steelhawks REGULAR SEASON STATS: S11: 50gp | 0g | 12a | 12pts | +17 | 52 PIMs | 2 Fights | 84 Hits | 19 Shots | 30 SB | 16.81 AMG | S12: 50gp | 2g | 23a | 25pts | +16 | 59 PIMs | 1 Fight | 96 Hits | 7 Shots | 36 SB | 18.56 AMG | S13: 39gp | 4g | 25a | 29pts | -2 | 54 PIMs | 4 Fights | 85 Hits | 52 Shots | 38 SB | 25.80 AMG | S14: 50gp | 5g | 31a | 36pts | +20 | 44 PIMs | 99 Hits | 93 Shots | 48 SB | 21.56 AMG | S15: 50gp | 9g | 26a | 35pts | +12 | 60 PIMs | 121 Hits | 80 Shots | 51 SB | 22.54 AMG | S16: 50gp | 3g | 25a | 28pts | +15 | 60 PIMs | 4 Fights | 72 Hits | 37 Shots | 61 SB | 20.99 AMG S17: 50gp | 6g | 14a | 20pts | +7 | 50 PIMs | 77 Hits | 53 Shots | 40 SB | 22.57 AMG S18: 50gp l 7g l 25a l 32pts l +1 l 38 PIMs l 142 Hits l 57 Shots l 52 SB l 22.82 AMG S19: 50gp l 6g l 26a l 32pts l +12 l 50 PIMs l 85 Hits l 64 Shots l 47 SB l 23.38 AMG S20: 50gp l 6g l 30a l 36pts l +25 l 64 PIMs l 119 Hits l 58 Shots l 62 SB l 22.60 AMG REGULAR SEASON TOTAL: 489 gp | 48g | 237a | 285pts | +123 | 531 PIMs | 11 Fight | 980 Hits | 520 Shots | 465 SB PLAYOFF STATS: S11: 15gp | 0g | 1a | 1pts | +7 | 24 PIMs | 27 Hits | 9 Shots | 9 SB | 15.30 AMG | S12: 5gp | 1g | 4a | 5pts | -1 | 4 PIMs | 7 Hits | 2 Shots | 4 SB | 21.41 AMG | S13: 4pg | 1g | 1a | 2pts | -4 | 0 PIMs | 11 Hits | 4 Shots | 8 SB | 26.03 AMG | S14: 6gp | 4g | 4a | 8pts | -1 | 0 PIMs | 14 Hits | 12 Shots | 11 SB | 22.64 AMG | S15: 5gp | 0g | 3a | 3pts | +2 | 8 PIMs | 13 Hits | 8 Shots | 4 SB | 22.41 AMG | S16: 6gp | 1g | 3a | 4pts | -1 | 27 PIMs | 1 Fight | 15 Hits | 2 Shots | 6 SB | 20.79 AMG | S17: 13gp | 2g | 4a | 6pts | +/-0 | 8 PIMs | 24 Hits | 14 Shots | 14 SB | 24.93 AMG | S18: 7gp l 1g l 5a l 6pts l +2 l 6 PIMs l 13 Hits l 8 Shots l 5 SB l 24.36 AMG S19: 18gp | 4g | 11a | 15pts | +1 | 23 PIMs | 1 Fight | 34 Hits | 26 Shots | 23 SB | 24.50 AMG | S20: 14gp l 2g l 6a l 8pts l +2 l 27 PIMs l 1 Fight l 25 Hits l 20 Shots l 8 SB l 24.58 AMG PLAYOFF STAT TOTALS: 93gp | 16g | 42a | 58pts | +7 | 127 PIMs | 3 Fight | 183 Hits | 105 Shots | 92 SB | AWARDS & HONORS: Named Assistant Captain S10 Montreal Impact S10 Eastern Conference Champions (MTL) Named to Team USA WJC Team Bronze Medal Team USA WJC S10 NWJHL Zach Miller Trophy for Most Dedicated Player Named Captain Team Schultz S10 NWJHL All Star Game Voted #11 on top 25 SHL Prospects List Named Assistant Captain S11 Hamilton Steelhawks Named to Team USA WJC Team Named Captain Team USA WJC Team Named GM Team USA IHF Team Silver Medal Team USA WJC S11 Prince of Wales Trophy S11 CHALLENGE CUP CHAMPIONS - HAMILTON STEELHAWKS Bronze Medal as GM of Team USA IHF Co-GM of Hamilton Steelhawks General Manager of the Hamilton Steelhawks S17 President's Trophy Assistant Captain of S17, S18, S19, S20 Hamilton Steelhawks S19 President's Trophy S19 Prince of Wales Trophy S20 President's Trophy S20 Prince of Wales Trophy Retired in S20 at #76 on the SHL All Time Scoring List Inducted into the Hamilton Steelhawks Hall of Fame S20 Third Team All Star S22 Ranked #56 - SHL Top 100 Players of All Time
Michal Pivonka | RW | RETIRED Name: Michal Pivonka Position: Right Wing Player Type: Playmaker[/pbl Height: 6’2” Weight: 198 lbs Number: 20 Born: Kladno, Czech Republic ------------------------------------------------------------ Regular Season: S9 | PGF | GP: 40 | G: 18 | A: 35 | PTS: 53 | P/M: -3 | PIM: 28 | Shots: 164| Hits: 43 | Hits Taken: 8 ------------------------------------------------------------ Playoffs: PGF Eliminated in 7gms by Kelowna Knights in Qualifier S9 | NWJHL | PGF | GP: 7 | G: 4 | A: 7 | PTS: 11 | P/M: 4 | PIM: 2 | Shots: 41 | Hits: 5 | Hits Taken: 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ IHF: | WJC | WLD | GP: 14 | G: 3 | A: 2 | PTS: 5 | P/M: -5 | PIM: 6 | Shots: 40 | Hits: 18 | Hits Taken: 16 ------------------------------------------------------------ DRAFTS: Not Applicable/ Undrafted CONTRACTS: Signed as Free Agent with PGF S9 $2,000,000 AWARDS & HONORS: 242 TPE Assistant Captain - S9 Prince George Firebirds Fourth among Season 9 Rookie Scorers 1st Selection NWJHL S9 All-Star Game Nine Points (4g & 5a) in NWJHL All Star Game 1st Star NWJHL All Star Game Silver Medal at WJC - Team World Olympic Bronze Medal - Team Slovakia
Quote: Originally posted by Schultzy @May 26 2015, 02:52 AM
Not replacing you. Just undermining you.
Quote: Originally posted by Schultzy @May 26 2015, 01:57 AMOmg a thread that's actually about Dave!
Newsflash: It's always about me baby
) Always is, always will be, and even when if the thread is about kung foo pandas and monopoly. It will be about me as the most important question has to be asked. What will Dave think about this topic?
)
~Sorry I just had to
C - Kenji Yoshimura Kenji Yoshimura Updates Dave Smith | 77 | | D | LA Panthers | Vancouver Whalers | Hall of Fame Asbjørn Alexandersen | 47 | RW | Texas Renegades | Detroit Falcons Alek Koivu | 71 | D | Winnipeg Jets | Colorado Mammoths Kenji Yoshimura | 88 | C | Los Angeles Panthers | Anchorage Armada Code:
Credit to Wasty and Steelhead for the sigs - thanks dudes!
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Ferdy
Nice to see the personnel expanding, congrats Smitty.
bbp
i came a bit
Niccolo Livius || LW/C || San Francisco|| TPE: 805 Name: Niccolo Livius Age: 21 Birthplace: Florance, Italy Height: 6'3" Weight: 300 lbs Number: 31 ------------------------------------------------------------ Career Statistics: SMJHL Regular Season: Newfoundland Berserkers S53->S57, Anaheim Outlaws S57 S53 | 50 GP | 7 G | 5 A | 12 P | +10 | 48 Hits | 12 PIM | 0/0 FW/FT S54 | 50 GP | 6 G | 11 A | 17 P | +5 | 86 Hits | 30 PIM | 4/6 FW/FT S55 | 50 GP | 3 G | 7 A | 10 P | +6 | 49 Hits | 49 PIM | 3/7 FW/FT S56 | 50 GP | 11 G | 8 A | 19 P | +4 | 116 Hits | 80 PIM | 11/12 FW/FT S57 | 66 GP | 4 G | 9 A | 13 P | -10 | 238 Hits | 133 PIM | 7/17 FW/FT Career | 266 GP | 31 G | 40 A | 71 P | +15 | 537 Hits | 254 PIM | 25/42 FW/FT ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Playoffs: S53 | 7 GP | 0 G | 0 A | 0 P | -1 | 9 Hits | 0 PIM | 0/0 FW/FT S54 | 14 GP | 2 G | 1 A | 3 P | +1 | 19 Hits | 10 PIM | 0/2 FW/FT S55 | 17 GP | 1 G | 0 A | 1 P | 0 | 12 Hits | 17 PIM | 2/3 FW/FT S56 | 17 GP | 1 G | 7 A | 8 P | +8 | 34 Hits | 17 PIM | 3/3 FW/FT S57 | 21 GP | 9 G | 7 A | 16 P | +3 | 104 Hits | 43 PIM | 4/5 FW/FT Career | 76 GP | 13 G | 15 A | 28 P | +11 | 178 Hits | 87 PIM | 9/13 FW/FT ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF World Juniors Round Robin - Team World: S53 | 12 GP | 0 G | 2 A | 2 P | -3 | 19 Hits | 6 PIM | 0/0 FW/FT S54 | 12 GP | 1 G | 1 A | 2 P | -2 | 17 Hits | 5 PIM | 1/1 FW/FT S55 | 12 GP | 3 G | 1 A | 4 P | -2 | 17 Hits | 23 PIM | 2/3 FW/FT S56 | 12 GP |3 G | 3 A | 6 P | -1 | 20 Hits | 12 PIM | 0/2 FW/FT ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF World Juniors Playoffs - Team World: S53 | 1 GP | 0 G | 0 A | 0 P | -1 | 1 Hits | 0 PIM | 0/0 FW/FT S54 | 1 GP | 0 G | 0 A | 0 P | -1 | 0 Hits | 0 PIM | 0/0 FW/FT S55 | 1 GP | 0 G | 0 A | 0 P | +0 | 0 Hits | 0 PIM | 0/0 FW/FT S56 | 2 GP | 1 G | 1 A | 2 P | +0 | 5 Hits | 5 PIM | 0/1 FW/FT ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Regular Season: San Francisco Pride S58-> Present S58 | 66 GP | 5 G | 4 A | 9 P | -24 | 249 Hits | 100 PIM | 0/2 FW/FT S59 | 66 GP | 7 G | 2 A | 9 P | -20 | 191 Hits | 46 PIM | 0/0 FW/FT S60 | 66 GP | 8 G | 8 A | 16 P | -25 | 376 Hits | 157 PIM | 2/4 FW/FT Career| 198 GP | 20 G | 14 A | 34 P | -69 | 816 Hits | 303 PIM | 2/4 FW/FT ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Playoffs: S59 | 6 GP | 2 G | 1 A | 3 P | +0 | 5 Hits | 0 PIM | 0/0 FW/FT S60 | 5 GP | 1 G | 0 A | 1 P | -4 | 22 Hits | 4 PIM | 0/0 FW/FT Career | 11 GP | 3 G | 1 A | 4 P | -4 | 27 Hits | 4 PIM | 0/0 FW/FT ------------------------------------------------------------ Career Notes: S53 - Drafted R4 OA33 in SMJHL Draft by Newfoundland Berserkers S54 - Drafted last R5 OA71 in SHL Draft by Chicago Syndicate S55 - Drafted in SMJHL Expansion Drafted 1OA by Nevada Battleborn S55 - Traded from Nevada to Newfoundland for a 1st Round Pick and cap space S57 - Traded from Newfoundland to Anaheim for a 2nd Round Pick S58 - Signed with San Francisco in SHL ------------------------------------------------------------ Career Awards: Voted League's Toughest Player: S54 (FHM) SMJHL Champion: S55 WJC S56: Bronze Medal
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