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The SHL's battle against TPE inflation Regression
#31

Quote:Originally posted by #NoBradyNoBanner@Jun 13 2015, 06:34 PM

I'm not saying get rid of regression lol, but what is the point of making it harsher?
because there's too many good players?

that is the worst possible argument…more good players = more likely expansion.
which is what the league wants to do.


Because it's not effective. It's useless. Might as well be there no regression. Read the article. Basically the TPE you earn is more than the regression in all season but the last one.


No. More good player doesn't equal expansion. SHL is thinking of expansion because everyone are generic 99s with that 95 weakness (5 points isn't different lol).

It's not good players that will = expansion it's active users.

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#32

Quote:Originally posted by ,Jun 13 2015@ 09:38 PM



Because it's not effective. It's useless. Might as well be there no regression. Read the article. Basically the TPE you earn is more than the regression in all season but the last one.


No. More good player doesn't equal expansion. SHL is thinking of expansion because everyone are generic 99s with that 95 weakness (5 points isn't different lol).

It's not good players that will = expansion it's active users.
Regression is there so that you have to remain active and updating if you want to fight it off.
Look at McKeil…he's gone virtually inactive and his player is at 800TPE.
still solid, but if he doesnt start updating he will be an average player in 1-2 more years.

Why do you think the SHL has so many more active users than the VHL?
It's because you can put in minimal effort and have a good player for a long time…it's not that complicated
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#33

Quote:Originally posted by #NoBradyNoBanner@Jun 13 2015, 08:29 PM
all your doing by increasing regression is getting rid of the active members that don't have the desire to start over and make a new player.

if you do have that desire and your bored with your player because you're maxed out, guess what, you can re-create.

i honestly fail to see why having players with long careers negatively impacts the league.

Yeahthat I have really enjoyed the opportunity to have a long career with my guy and have become attached to him throughout the years. The thing I really like is that with the way things are right now it gives each member the choice and freedom to recreate whenever they want and doesn't force people into retiring really until after 20+ seasons. Some people just don't want to start all over and I believe forcing people to retire with a harsher regression system will likely negatively impact activity as it will just force some people down a path they don't want to go.

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#34

Quote:Originally posted by #NoBradyNoBanner@Jun 13 2015, 06:46 PM

Regression is there so that you have to remain active and updating if you want to fight it off.
Look at McKeil…he's gone virtually inactive and his player is at 800TPE.
still solid, but if he doesnt start updating he will be an average player in 1-2 more years.

Why do you think the SHL has so many more active users than the VHL?
It's because you can put in minimal effort and have a good player for a long time…it's not that complicated




Except you can bank tpe and not work hard at all. You can literally have banked so much with the TPE inflation and not care for any more seasons. That's not fighting back, that's being given so much cash and then living off with it. If McKeil is still active, he'd still be full TPE. It's not because he's fighting regression, he's just being given the TPE and updating Smile)


No SHL has had a lot of members even before the implementation of this type of regression. The SHL never have had more than minimal effort and this isn't asking for more than minimal effort. This is asking for a reduction of TPE handed out, not more difficult TPE to gain. Those are two different things.
The regression before was way harsher. this regression is just stupid. 25 attribute points per season on the last tier of regression.

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#35

Hall has 1500 TPE and he's played 16 seasons lol just saying clearly regression is not tough enough

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#36

You say players could easily play 30 seasons? SHL hasn't even been around for 30 seasons. Its been what, 5 or 6 years since S1?
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#37

im headed for 100 seasons unless regression can bring me down
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#38

Quote:Originally posted by Bün@Jun 13 2015, 07:03 PM
You say players could easily play 30 seasons? SHL hasn't even been around for 30 seasons. Its been what, 5 or 6 years since S1?


Don't need to play 30 seasons to know that a player can play 30 seasons. All you need are calculations. Someone said hallsy has played 16 season and has 1500 TPE.

30 Seasons is easy especially with the number of Banked TPE players has plus TPE that they will be earning in the future.

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#39

Quote:Originally posted by gorlab@Jun 13 2015, 10:22 PM
[b]Stop rewarding pBps with uncapped tpe. Make it like 500k or 1mil or something (IDK if PbPs are rewarded with uncapped tpe anymore, I assume they are)

PBps need to end. Maybe in your first or second season a pBp might be entertaining but after that it gets really old, really fast, IMO.[/b]

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#40

Quote:Originally posted by ,Jun 13 2015@ 08:06 PM



Don't need to play 30 seasons to know that a player can play 30 seasons. All you need are calculations. Someone said hallsy has played 16 season and has 1500 TPE.

30 Seasons is easy especially with the number of Banked TPE players has plus TPE that they will be earning in the future.

Lets see someone stick around with the same character for 8 calendar years.
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#41

Quote:Originally posted by Bün@Jun 13 2015, 07:08 PM


Lets see someone stick around with the same character for 8 calendar years.

That doesn't mean that they can't sustain a player for 30 seasons. Fact still remains that they can sustain a player for 30 seasons.

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#42

Personally I think it is ridiculous people can hit 1000tpe after 4 seasons (see the S20 draft class).
Regression is fine where it is, the problem is how early people can start banking TPE.

Just don't hand out so much free shit. PTs + Training + predictions (draft/playoffs/season) + Training Camp. Thats it. Nothing more gives TPE.

fuk activity checks for god sakes. If people complain about not having enough to do...
add like small 200 word 1tpe weekly things like other leagues have. But don't give away 2TPE weekly for showing up.

we have to balance, having enough shit to not make people bored + not having so much shit everyone makes beast players

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#43

If someone wants to stay active and updating for 30 seasons and the reason is because they like having their player…then WTF not let them Smile)
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#44

Quote:Originally posted by bbp@Jun 13 2015, 07:12 PM
Personally I think it is ridiculous people can hit 1000tpe after 4 seasons (see the S20 draft class).
Regression is fine where it is, the problem is how early people can start banking TPE.

Just don't hand out so much free shit. PTs + Training + predictions (draft playoffs) + Training Camp. Thats it. Nothing more gives TPE.


But for the hundreth time if you do this then new players will suffer while players that have already banked TPE will just be walking and having their players for 30 seasons.

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#45

It's all a balancing act. All of you are equally correct.

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