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Colt for O'Callahan A hypothetical analysis (NOT REAL)
#16

Quote:Originally posted by Mac@Jun 30 2015, 03:41 PM


Ah, I hadn't seen you post in here.

Yes, 17 points with no powerplay time and limited minutes on the 5v5, a total I matched this season when playing on the top line and powerplay at the 22 game mark.
O'Callahan put up those points in his 2nd and 3rd season...playing heavy top line minutes and heavy powerplay minutes, something you are currently getting a lot of and unlike you, that tends to pile the totals up rather quickly.

You are playing 30 minutes a game on two lines, on the powerplay, firing pucks left right and center and not having hit the ten point mark by the midway point of the season yet you talk more shit then anyone.

I previously wasn't in the position to put up points, so I ask then what your excuse is this season.

I talk shit because Merica has dominated and won two challenge cups. I talk shit because Merica can carry mediocre teams by himself, because everywhere he has gone success has followed and he has been a direct reason for that success. Because even last season in a down year of 45 points, he rebounded with 9 goals in the first round of the playoffs, single-handedly carrying the offense into the second round. I can talk all the shit I want, because I back it up.

If you want to claim that Dean Colt is on pace to become just as good as two of the best players in the SHL, both of whom are first-ballot hall of famers and O'Callahan himself is one of the best players in SHL history, then I point you to your current career trajectory:

4th season in league:
Colt- 17 points
Merica- 41


5th season in league:
Merica- 50
Colt- 17 pts in 22 games

Sure, make excuses about not getting as many minutes, blah blah, and I will point you to the reason for that, because your player is nothing special and has been COMPLETELY one-dimensional his entire career. You don't get PP time because Colt is terrible offensively, you cant use that in your argument, its your own fault.

You continually reference this season when talking about my player, and completely ignore everything else he has done or what he is capable of, and somehow you think that because Merica is having a bad season that means I can't say anything and my opinion is moot. Smile)

Furthermore this thread isn't supposed to be about my player, so STOP FUCKING TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT and distract attention away from the fact that you think Colt is good enough to not only replace O'Callahan, but is worth more than he is in a trade.

Dean Colt is average. In his first four seasons he was a below-average depth player. This season he has been better, and because of how below-average he has been in the past you seem to think he is amazing all of a sudden, when really, as I said already, he is average.

There is absolutely nothing that indicates that Dean Colt is going to be as good as Carter O'Callahan. You are LITERALLY pulling shit out of your ass to make this argument.

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#17

Bottas for Partlow +

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#18

Quote:Originally posted by Merica@Jun 30 2015, 06:27 PM


I talk shit because Merica has dominated and won two challenge cups. I talk shit because Merica can carry mediocre teams by himself, because everywhere he has gone success has followed and he has been a direct reason for that success. Because even last season in a down year of 45 points, he rebounded with 9 goals in the first round of the playoffs, single-handedly carrying the offense into the second round.  I can talk all the shit I want, because I back it up.

If you want to claim that Dean Colt is on pace to become just as good as two of the best players in the SHL, both of whom are first-ballot hall of famers and O'Callahan himself is one of the best players in SHL history, then I point you to your current career trajectory:

4th season in league:
Colt- 17 points
Merica- 41


5th season in league:
Merica- 50
Colt- 17 pts in 22 games

Sure, make excuses about not getting as many minutes, blah blah, and I will point you to the reason for that, because your player is nothing special and has been COMPLETELY one-dimensional his entire career. You don't get PP time because Colt is terrible offensively, you cant use that in your argument, its your own fault.

You continually reference this season when talking about my player, and completely ignore everything else he has done or what he is capable of, and somehow you think that because Merica is having a bad season that means I can't say anything and my opinion is moot. Smile)

Furthermore this thread isn't supposed to be about my player, so STOP FUCKING TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT and distract attention away from the fact that you think Colt is good enough to not only replace O'Callahan, but is worth more than he is in a trade.

Dean Colt is average. In his first four seasons he was a below-average depth player. This season he has been better, and because of how below-average he has been in the past you seem to think he is amazing all of a sudden, when really, as I said already, he is average.

[b]There is absolutely nothing that indicates that Dean Colt is going to be as good as Carter O'Callahan. You are LITERALLY pulling shit out of your ass to make this argument.
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#19

Quote:Originally posted by vbottas17@Jun 30 2015, 04:37 PM
Bottas for Partlow +
deal

where is Wasty???
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#20

Quote:Originally posted by Mac@Jun 30 2015, 04:38 PM


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Says the guy who thinks he is worth more than Carter O'Callahan.

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#21

I expected Merica like most to just pull stats out of his ass without bothering to actually look at them, he refers to Callys 2nd and 3rd seasons as something that can be compared and is totally not apply and oranges.

O'Callahans 2nd Season (Season 15)
25 G and 28A for 53 Points
2nd Line - Offensive Strategy
2nd Unit PP (45%)
18 PPP / 53 Points
142 PPM
47 PKM
19.84 MPG

Linemates - Faulkner, Karlsson, Kickz, Nugent-Hopkins (All 1,000 points or near)



Colts 2nd season
4G and 5A for 9 Points
3rd line shutdown strategy
2nd PP (40%)
1PPP / 9 Points
120 PPM
0 PKM
14.4 MPG

Linemates - Sherrill, Wikstrom, Vyskoc, Samsinov (Highest was ~650-700, lowest 350)


O'Callahans 3rd Season
O'Callahans 2nd Season (Season 15)
18 G and 33A for 51 Points
2nd Line - Offensive Strategy
1nd Unit PP (60%)
19 PPP / 51 Points
140 PPM
0 PKM
19.27 MPG

Linemates - Faulkner, Karlsson, Kickz, Nugent-Hopkins (All 1,000 points or near it)



Colts 2nd season (25 Games)
2G and 6A for 8 Points
3rd line shutdown strategy
1 PPM
47 PKM
14.56 MPG

Linemates - Kovalenko, Vyskoc, Samsinov (Highest was ~800-700, lowest 400)

Weird eh, how one of us started with prime playing time on a strong team and put up a ton of points and one of us started on a rebuilding team doing the dirty work.

I'll even give you three guesses which is which, but with your accuracy you'd still miss.

If you were to suggest a fair comparison, compare his third season to the one I am currently having since they are much the same role.

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#22

Quote:Originally posted by Merica+Jun 30 2015, 06:40 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1' id='QUOTE-WRAP'><tr><td>QUOTE (Merica @ Jun 30 2015, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

Says the guy who thinks he is worth more than Carter O'Callahan.[/b]


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[b]I talk shit because Merica has dominated
and won two challenge cups. I talk shit because Merica can carry mediocre teams by himself, because everywhere he has gone success has followed and he has been a direct reason for that success. Because even last season in a down year of 45 points, he rebounded with 9 goals in the first round of the playoffs, single-handedly carrying the offense into the second round.&nbsp; I can talk all the shit I want, because I back it up.

If you want to claim that Dean Colt is on pace to become just as good as two of the best players in the SHL, both of whom are first-ballot hall of famers and O'Callahan himself is one of the best players in SHL history, then I point you to your current career trajectory:

4th season in league:
Colt- 17 points
Merica- 41


5th season in league:
Merica- 50
Colt- 17 pts in 22 games

Sure, make excuses about not getting as many minutes, blah blah, and I will point you to the reason for that, because your player is nothing special and has been COMPLETELY one-dimensional his entire career. You don't get PP time because Colt is terrible offensively, you cant use that in your argument, its your own fault.

You continually reference this season when talking about my player, and completely ignore everything else he has done or what he is capable of, and somehow you think that because Merica is having a bad season that means I can't say anything and my opinion is moot. Smile)

Furthermore this thread isn't supposed to be about my player, so STOP FUCKING TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT and distract attention away from the fact that you think Colt is good enough to not only replace O'Callahan, but is worth more than he is in a trade.

Dean Colt is average. In his first four seasons he was a below-average depth player. This season he has been better, and because of how below-average he has been in the past you seem to think he is amazing all of a sudden, when really, as I said already, he is average.

There is absolutely nothing that indicates that Dean Colt is going to be as good as Carter O'Callahan. You are LITERALLY pulling shit out of your ass to make this argument.[/b][/quote]

You really have the audacity to call ME egotistical? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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#23

you can make an argument for Colt as the Dar favorite this season
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#24

:facepalm:

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#25

Quote:Originally posted by Shevy Shev@Jun 30 2015, 06:45 PM
you can make an argument for Colt as the Dar favorite this season

:D

And Merica, if you want, put your money where your rather large mouth is.

3 Million says over the next thirty games I put up more points.

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#26

lmaoooo mac
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#27

WIKI FOR FIRST LINE
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#28

Quote:Originally posted by Mac@Jun 30 2015, 04:43 PM





You really have the audacity to call ME egotistical?&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:

Woah woah woah. I am egotistical as fuck. Everyone knows this and I know it. I've never denied it.

Also I have nothing to gain from a bet with you. We aren't rivals. I don't need money. And I have nothing to prove to you.

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#29

Quote:Originally posted by Merica@Jun 30 2015, 07:29 AM
Colt's best season was 17 points. He hasn't shown any sign of having the capability to step into Callahans shoes and replace him. You cant just assume that after 20 games because you have similar points to him that that just makes you EVEN. Lmao.

Also you talk about how good of a GM GoB is and than you shit on him by thinking this is something he would accept.

I get it, Colt has a good build on paper, so does a lot of people, maybe have ONE season where you surpass 40 points before you start calling yourself O'Callahan.

Also lets not forget O'Callahan had 50+ points his 2nd and 3rd season in the league and 60 in his 6th season. Lol.

EVEN?

its CoC + 3rd for Colt he said
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#30

Code:
S23 Playoffs
Player Name    F    D    GP    G    A    P
Daniel Merica    X &nbsp;14    8    3    11
Niklas Wikstrom    X &nbsp;19    5    6    11


WIKI FOR MERICA
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