I forget everyone from my draft class.
All Gm's are great.

But remember Jack Crasher? That was fucking awesome.

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- Let's go back to your SHL draft. In hindsight, do you think you would have/should have been drafted in the position that you were, knowing what you know now? Give yourself a redraft position!



Fuck yes i deserved to be #1. The only other possible pick that would have been better in that spot was Theo Kane. Tommy Creller won 3 cups, put up consistent numbers, and gave teams a reliable 1st/2nd liner for his entire 15 season career. Holding roles of SMJHL coGM/GM and SHL Co-GM with the opportunity to take over head GM, he was a recognizable name in the league and looked up to by many younger players.

Originally posted by Mook@Oct 15 2017, 07:17 AM
- Let's go back to your SHL draft. In hindsight, do you think you would have/should have been drafted in the position that you were, knowing what you know now? Give yourself a redraft position!



Fuck yes i deserved to be #1. The only other possible pick that would have been better in that spot was Theo Kane. Tommy Creller won 3 cups, put up consistent numbers, and gave teams a reliable 1st/2nd liner for his entire 15 season career. Holding roles of SMJHL coGM/GM and SHL Co-GM with the opportunity to take over head GM, he was a recognizable name in the league and looked up to by many  younger players.

That draft was crazy lol. Creller, Garbo, Wong, Kane, Clitsome is an insane top 5, not to mention Leonidas, Ruutu, Knight?! Solid return on investment from S21

Originally posted by mpc@Oct 15 2017, 08:21 AM


That draft was crazy lol. Creller, Garbo, Wong, Kane, Clitsome is an insane top 5, not to mention Leonidas, Ruutu, Knight?! Solid return on investment from S21

U goin for that discussion tep eh

Grindle Waters-Johnson || LW || Great Falls Grizzlies || 241 TPE
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 210 lbs
Birthplace: Rimouski, Japan

Transactions
S78: Drafted by Great Falls Grizzlies with the 5th overall pick in S78 SMJHL Entry Draft
S78: Signed to a 5m rookie contract by the Great Falls Grizzlies

Stats

Awards

- Think back to one draft pick that you regret letting slip through your fingers. Who was it, and what do you think they would have added to your team?

I really was regretting letting Zemgus Nylander slip through my hands. I knew he’d be a great fit with that late pick. He was recently awarded the Rookie of the Year in the SMJHL and would be a great future prospect.

That’s why I traded back for him.

RIP Dangel. See you on the other side, brother

Originally posted by Waters@Oct 15 2017, 07:56 AM

U goin for that discussion tep eh

On dat grind

Originally posted by Waters@Oct 15 2017, 04:43 AM

literally the opposite of what happened u dummy

e: in regards to you wanting to pick light and everyone else wanted latta, not the latta going inactive for unforeseen personal issues, that did happen

He such a dummy eh?

Originally posted by Dangles13@Oct 15 2017, 09:26 AM

He such a dummy eh?

ty danglo for agree

Grindle Waters-Johnson || LW || Great Falls Grizzlies || 241 TPE
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 210 lbs
Birthplace: Rimouski, Japan

Transactions
S78: Drafted by Great Falls Grizzlies with the 5th overall pick in S78 SMJHL Entry Draft
S78: Signed to a 5m rookie contract by the Great Falls Grizzlies

Stats

Awards

- Let's go back to your SHL draft. In hindsight, do you think you would have/should have been drafted in the position that you were, knowing what you know now? Give yourself a redraft position!

Considering I was the 1st defenseman taken off the board, I don't think much would change, besides maybe the likes of Either of the next 2 d men taken after taking my spot, which I wouldn't have been mad or expected any different in Metzler or Kosonen.

If we were to go BPA? I think I should have snuck into the top 5 personally, but not one needed a D man that bad at the time, so I can't blame the GM's for not picking me at all. Hindsight is always 20/20!

The part that makes me sad overall? Were picks 11,14,16,17 ultimately. RIP HAM and TOR.

I went 13th overall in my class. I'd like to think I could've gone a little higher, but there's not many people above me who I could actually displace. Also, Metzler is fucking awful.

D | S62 | Merlin Metzler | Newfoundland | 199 TPE

|  SMJHL Career |

  SMJHL Regular Seasons
| S61 | (GP 00) (G 00) (A 00) (P 00) (+-0) (SHT 000) (SB 00) (P/20 0.00) |

| Movement and Contracts |

| S61 | Signed with Newfoundland Bezerkers, UFA


D | S31 | Alexis Metzler | Buffalo | Detroit | USA | 2,002 TPE [R]

Captain of the Buffalo Stampede, S38-S52
Alternate Captain of the Buffalo Stampede, S34-S37
Alternate Captain of the United States of America, S38-S46
1st Ballot Hall Of Fame, S54 Class

| SHL Career |

  SHL Regular Seasons
| S32 | (GP 50) (G 09) (A 22) (P 31) ( -08) (SHT 077) (SB 073) (P/20 0.56) |
| S33 | (GP 50) (G 03) (A 21) (P 24) ( -02) (SHT 086) (SB 063) (P/20 0.41) |
| S34 | (GP 50) (G 03) (A 21) (P 24) ( -13) (SHT 077) (SB 072) (P/20 0.40) |
| S35 | (GP 50) (G 11) (A 26) (P 37) ( -05) (SHT 086) (SB 071) (P/20 0.62) |
| S36 | (GP 50) (G 09) (A 17) (P 26) ( -14) (SHT 078) (SB 096) (P/20 0.40) |
| S37 | (GP 50) (G 10) (A 31) (P 41) ( -20) (SHT 079) (SB 067) (P/20 0.62) |
| S38 | (GP 50) (G 11) (A 31) (P 42) ( -12) (SHT 120) (SB 080) (P/20 0.69) |
| S39 | (GP 50) (G 10) (A 38) (P 48) (+01) (SHT 107) (SB 083) (P/20 0.80) |
| S40 | (GP 50) (G 08) (A 24) (P 32) ( -13) (SHT 098) (SB 066) (P/20 0.54) |
| S41 | (GP 50) (G 11) (A 30) (P 41) ( -10) (SHT 093) (SB 078) (P/20 0.67) |
| S42 | (GP 50) (G 12) (A 40) (P 52) (+16) (SHT 095) (SB 068) (P/20 0.85) |
| S43 | (GP 50) (G 10) (A 34) (P 44) (+01) (SHT 093) (SB 081) (P/20 0.74) |
| S44 | (GP 50) (G 09) (A 37) (P 46) (+00) (SHT 092) (SB 070) (P/20 0.76) |
| S45 | (GP 50) (G 04) (A 32) (P 36) (+03) (SHT 088) (SB 076) (P/20 0.61) |
| S46 | (GP 50) (G 10) (A 25) (P 35) (+13) (SHT 101) (SB 077) (P/20 0.58) |
| S47 | (GP 50) (G 11) (A 28) (P 39) (+15) (SHT 087) (SB 076) (P/20 0.65) |
| S48 | (GP 50) (G 05) (A 26) (P 31) (+06) (SHT 088) (SB 101) (P/20 0.52) |
| S49 | (GP 50) (G 03) (A 25) (P 28) (+03) (SHT 060) (SB 060) (P/20 0.47) |
| S50 | (GP 50) (G 03) (A 18) (P 21) (+02) (SHT 045) (SB 056) (P/20 0.40) |
| S51 | (GP 50) (G 01) (A 10) (P 11) (+07) (SHT 026) (SB 066) (P/20 0.28) |
| S52 | (GP 50) (G 01) (A 07) (P 08) (+07) (SHT 033) (SB 049) (P/20 0.23) |

  SHL Playoffs
| S32 | (DNQ) |
| S33 | (GP 05) (G 00) (A 04) (P 04) (+02) (SHT 012) (SB 010) (P/20 0.64) |
| S34 | (DNQ) |
| S35 | (GP 04) (G 00) (A 01) (P 01) (+00) (SHT 014) (SB 005) (P/20 0.21) |
| S36 | (GP 07) (G 02) (A 04) (P 06) (+02) (SHT 016) (SB 011) (P/20 0.57) |
| S37 | (GP 07) (G 00) (A 03) (P 03) (+00) (SHT 007) (SB 018) (P/20 0.31) |
| S38 | (DNQ) |
| S39 | (DNQ) |
| S40 | (DNQ) |
| S41 | (GP 07) (G 02) (A 04) (P 06) ( -04) (SHT 014) (SB 009) (P/20 0.72) |
| S42 | (GP 07) (G 01) (A 03) (P 04) ( -06) (SHT 009) (SB 009) (P/20 0.64) |
| S43 | (GP 09) (G 02) (A 05) (P 07) ( -06) (SHT 018) (SB 014) (P/20 0.62) |
| S44 | (DNQ) |
| S45 | (DNQ) |
| S46 | (GP 17) (G 04) (A 09) (P 13) (+05) (SHT 033) (SB 020) (P/20 0.64) |
| S47 | (GP 13) (G 01) (A 05) (P 06) (+00) (SHT 018) (SB 013) (P/20 0.38) |
| S48 | (GP 22) (G 04) (A 16) (P 20) (+05) (SHT 033) (SB 022) (P/20 0.76) |
| S49 | (GP 05) (G 00) (A 00) (P 00) ( -06) (SHT 010) (SB 009) (P/20 0.00) |
| S50 | (GP 06) (G 00) (A 03) (P 03) ( -01) (SHT 007) (SB 007) (P/20 0.48) |
| S51 | (GP 08) (G 00) (A 00) (P 00) (+00) (SHT 003) (SB 006) (P/20 0.00) |
| S52 | (GP 15) (G 00) (A 00) (P 00) (+01) (SHT 015) (SB 010) (P/20 0.00) |

|  SMJHL Career |

  SMJHL Regular Seasons
| S30 | (GP 50) (G 05) (A 28) (P 32) (+13) (SHT 059) (SB 53) (P/20 0.64) |
| S31 | (GP 50) (G 10) (A 22) (P 32) ( -12) (SHT 101) (SB 74) (P/20 0.59) |

  SMJHL Playoffs
| S30 | (GP 05) (G 01) (A 02) (P 03) (+02) (SHT 010) (SB 05) (P/20 0.49) |
| S31 | (GP 13) (G 06) (A 10) (P 16) (+04) (SHT 030) (SB 16) (P/20 1.01) |

| Awards |

  Awards Won
| S34 | IIHF Gold Medal (United States of America)
| S37 | IIHF Top Defenseman
| S39 | Scott Stevens Trophy (Best Defenseman)
| S39 | SHL 1st All Stars Team
| S40 | IIHF Gold Medal (United States of America)
| S42 | Scott Stevens Trophy (Best Defenseman)
| S42 | SHL 1st All Stars Team
| S43 | SHL 3rd All Stars Team
| S44 | SHL 1st All Stars Team
| S46 | Challenge Cup Champions (Buffalo Stampede)

  Awards Nominated
| S31 | Brodie Witzel Nominee (SMJHL Playoff MVP)
| S35 | Damien Littleton Nominee (SHL Most Dedicated Player)
| S39 | Damien Littleton Nominee (SHL Most Dedicated Player)
| S41 | Damien Littleton Nominee (SHL Most Dedicated Player)
| S43 | Scott Stevens Trophy (Best Defenseman)
| S44 | Scott Stevens Trophy (Best Defenseman)

| Movement and Contracts |

| S30 | Drafted to Detroit Falcons, 15th OA
| S31 | Drafted to Portland Admirals, 13th OA
| S31 | Signed Contract, 3x $3,000,000 S31-S33 with Portland Admirals
| S31 | Traded to Buffalo Stampede for a handful of magic beans
| S33 | Signed Contract, 3x $6,000,000 S34-S36 with Buffalo Stampede
| S36 | Signed Contract, 2x $6,000,000 S37-S38 with Buffalo Stampede
| S38 | Signed Contract, 2x $7,000,000 S39-S40, plus,
| S38 | 5x $6,000,000 S41-S45 with Buffalo Stampede
| S45 | Signed Contract, 2x $5,000,000 S46-S47 with Buffalo Stampede
| S47 | Signed Contract, 1x $5,000,000 S48 with Buffalo Stampede
| S48 | Signed Contract, 2x $4,000,000 S49-S50 with Buffalo Stampede
| S50 | Signed Contract, 1x $4,000,000 S51-S52 with Buffalo Stampede

HEAD OFFICE ARE A BUNCH OF NERDS

Originally posted by Rabidsponge21@Oct 15 2017, 07:50 AM
- Let's go back to your SHL draft. In hindsight, do you think you would have/should have been drafted in the position that you were, knowing what you know now? Give yourself a redraft position!

Considering I was the 1st defenseman taken off the board, I don't think much would change, besides maybe the likes of Either of the next 2 d men taken after taking my spot, which I wouldn't have been mad or expected any different in Metzler or Kosonen.

If we were to go BPA? I think I should have snuck into the top 5 personally, but not one needed a D man that bad at the time, so I can't blame the GM's for not picking me at all. Hindsight is always 20/20!

The part that makes me sad overall? Were picks 11,14,16,17 ultimately. RIP HAM and TOR.

You would have went higher if Hallsy and I had a higher pick my friend.

Uuu the best draft class that I've seen and remember must be the S31 class. Reasons are different but the main three in my opinion are the activity that we saw, the talent that we got and the example they set as the best draft class in a long time. I myself joined by the end of the season and I was added to the S32 draft class but I so wanted to be part of S31 because of all the cool people that were there and everything that they had. They can honestly look back and remember bits and pieces from their draft class. All the conversations they had, all the inside jokes that came out while I for example am not that fortunate and my class was pretty poopy and boring. Besides that we got really good players from that season. One of the greater examples being Eduard Selich aka Tomen. I believe he was and is one of the biggest addition to this league since he joined and I believe he has achieved a lot as well. I honestly might be bit bias about this topic as I think I was like a little fan boy that just wanted to hang out with all the cool kids from the school but it just so happened that they were all in a different year and class and I was younger so I did not get the chance to be part of their group and have all the fun they had chatting and communicating while making their awesome player for the future.

Danila "DAN" Zhernov #9 || D || Kelowna Knights || 419 TPE
Name: Danila Zhernov
Nationality: Ukrainian
Age: 18
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 220 lbs
Number: 9
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Regular Season Stats
S50 (KEL) : GP: 50, G: 3, A: 10, P: 13, +/-: -4, PIMS: 22, H: 40, SB: 52
S51 (KEL) : GP: 50, G: 4, A: 29, P: 33, +/-: +3, PIMS: 52, H: 84, SB: 61
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Playoff Stats
S50 (KEL) : GP: 6, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -2, PIMS: 4, H: 6, SB: 7[/pbl]
S50 (KEL) : GP: 20, G: 2, A: 9, P: 11, +/-: 0, PIMS: 22, H: 33, SB: 30[/pbl]
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Career History
S49 WJC Bronze Medalist with Team World
S50 SMJHL Entry draft - Round 3 - Overall 24th pick by Kelowna Knights
S50 Regular season ranked 9th with Kelowna Knights
S51 SHL Draft - Round 3 - Overall 23rd pick by Edmonton Blizzard
S51 Joined Team Switzerland of IIHF
S51 IIHF silver medalist with Team Switzerland
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Bank Account: unknown


- Player Page - Update Page -

Hans Zucker #81 || RW || Montreal Militia || Retired (S45 - S49)
Name: Hans Zucker
Nationality: Belgian
Age: 22
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 215 lbs
Number: 81
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Regular Season Stats
S45 (MTL) : GP: 50, G: 4, A: 5, P: 9, +/-: -14, PIMS: 16, H: 41, SB: 7
S46 (MTL) : GP: 50, G: 9, A: 9, P: 18, +/-: +11, PIMS: 2, H: 15, SB: 3
S47 (MTL) : GP: 50, G: 8, A: 7, P: 15, +/-: +7, PIMS: 10, H: 22, SB: 1
S48 (MTL) : GP: 50, G: 6, A: 3, P: 9, +/-: +1, PIMS: 10, H: 21, SB: 3
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Playoff Stats
S45 (MTL) : GP: 6, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: +1, PIMS: 0, H: 2, SB: 1
S46 (MTL) : GP: 12, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -6, PIMS: 4, H: 18, SB: 1
S47 (MTL) : GP: 19, G: 4, A: 1, P: 5, +/-: +6, PIMS: 0, H: 13, SB: 2
S48 (MTL) : GP: 7, G: 0, A: 0, P: 0, +/-: -2, PIMS: 4, H: 2, SB: 1
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Career History
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Bank Account: unknown

Teodors Cukurs #14 || C || Edmonton Blizzard || Retired (S31 - S45)
Name: Teodors Cukurs
Nationality: Latvian
Age: 26
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 230 lbs
Number: 14
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Regular Season Stats
S31 (PGF) : GP: 50, G: 10, A: 21, P: 31, +/-: -6, PIMS: 33, H: 47, SB: 9, FO%: 53.71%
S32 (PGF) : GP: 50, G: 9, A: 22, P: 31, +/-: 0, PIMS: 23, H: 49, SB: 9, FO%: 57.41%
S33 (PGF) : GP: 50, G: 17, A: 25, P: 32, +/-: +8, PIMS: 30, H: 72, SB: 12, FO%: 53.29%
S34 (SEA) : GP: 50, G: 8, A: 10, P: 18, +/-: +3, PIMS: 11, H: 30, SB: 3, FO%: 51.30%
S35 (SEA) : GP: 50, G: 8, A: 10, P: 18, +/-: -11, PIMS: 19, H: 39, SB: 5, FO%: 50.30%
S36 (EDM) : GP: 50, G: 12, A: 19, P: 31, +/-: -21, PIMS: 20, H: 27, SB: 10, FO%: 50.99%
S37 (EDM) : GP: 50, G: 19, A: 27, P: 46, +/-: -11, PIMS: 17, H: 72, SB: 11, FO%: 52.08%
S38 (EDM) : GP: 50, G: 17, A: 29, P: 46, +/-: -14, PIMS: 18, H: 44, SB: 19, FO%: 55.26%
S39 (EDM) : GP: 50, G: 16, A: 22, P: 38, +/-: -3, PIMS: 13, H: 32, SB: 18, FO%: 52.80%
S40 (EDM) : GP: 50, G: 14, A: 20, P: 34, +/-: +15, PIMS: 32, H: 35, SB: 9, FO%: 53.24%
S41 (EDM) : GP: 50, G: 15, A: 34, P: 49, +/-: -2, PIMS: 36, H: 78, SB: 14, FO%: 55.03%
S42 (EDM) : GP: 50, G: 17, A: 28, P: 45, +/-: 6, PIMS: 22, H: 80, SB: 12, FO%: 55.15%
S43 (EDM) : GP: 50, G: 17, A: 23, P: 40, +/-: 0, PIMS: 22, H: 100, SB: 10, FO%: 57.94%
S44 (EDM) : GP: 50, G: 14, A: 27, P: 41, +/-: 21, PIMS: 20, H: 87, SB: 11, FO%: 55.61%
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Playoff Stats
S31 (PGF) : GP: 4, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: -4, PIMS: 2, H: 5, SB: 0, FO%: 58.88%
S32 (PGF) : GP: 11, G: 5, A: 7, P: 12, +/-: +5, PIMS: 8, H: 12, SB: 2, FO%: 56.07%
S33 (PGF) : GP: 7, G: 0, A: 8, P: 8, +/-: +4, PIMS: 4, H: 5, SB: 2, FO%: 62.19%
S39 (EDM) : GP: 7, G: 0, A: 7, P: 7, +/-: +0, PIMS: 0, H: 5, SB: 2, FO%: 50.00%
S40 (EDM) : GP: 7, G: 3, A: 4, P: 7, +/-: -2, PIMS: 2, H: 9, SB: 12, FO%: 58.46%
S41 (EDM) : GP: 7, G: 0, A: 3, P: 3, +/-: +1, PIMS: 6, H: 15, SB: 2, FO%: 51.69%
S42 (EDM) : GP: 11, G: 4, A: 7, P: 11, +/-: +1, PIMS: 6, H: 22, SB: 2, FO%: 51.41%
S44 (EDM) : GP: 11, G: 1, A: 7, P: 8, +/-: +3, PIMS: 4, H: 8, SB: 3, FO%: 54.10%
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Career History
S31: 2nd overall pick in S31 SMJHL draft by Prince George Firebirds
S31: #1 Rookie by points (31 points) in SMJHL
S32: 4th overall pick in S32 SHL draft by Portland Admirals
S32: #1 Center by FO% won (57.41%) in SMJHL
S32: Voted to be a GM of a Fantasy Series Team
S32: Won the Fantasy Series with Kursk Anthon's Russian Dumplings
S34: Traded from Portland Admirals to Seattle Riot
S36: Traded from Seattle Riot to Edmonton Blizzard
S37: Received Aidan Richan Trophy
S40: #1 Center by FO% won (58.46%) in SHL Playoffs
S45: Retired
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Bank Account: unknown

Originally posted by Rabidsponge21@Oct 15 2017, 09:50 AM
- Let's go back to your SHL draft. In hindsight, do you think you would have/should have been drafted in the position that you were, knowing what you know now? Give yourself a redraft position!

Considering I was the 1st defenseman taken off the board, I don't think much would change, besides maybe the likes of Either of the next 2 d men taken after taking my spot, which I wouldn't have been mad or expected any different in Metzler or Kosonen.

If we were to go BPA? I think I should have snuck into the top 5 personally, but not one needed a D man that bad at the time, so I can't blame the GM's for not picking me at all. Hindsight is always 20/20!

The part that makes me sad overall? Were picks 11,14,16,17 ultimately. RIP HAM and TOR.

u make me sad

ben waters has more career wins than kyle wahlgren

Grindle Waters-Johnson || LW || Great Falls Grizzlies || 241 TPE
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 210 lbs
Birthplace: Rimouski, Japan

Transactions
S78: Drafted by Great Falls Grizzlies with the 5th overall pick in S78 SMJHL Entry Draft
S78: Signed to a 5m rookie contract by the Great Falls Grizzlies

Stats

Awards

- Let's go back to your SHL draft. In hindsight, do you think you would have/should have been drafted in the position that you were, knowing what you know now? Give yourself a redraft position!

I guess I may has well answer a question eh?

I went 4th overall to Hamilton in S26 and the guy before me, Conall Macleod, ended up being a huge bust. What is ironic about that is that he recruited me from HFBoards to get sweet recruitment TPE. Right after me Eoin Macgregor also turned out to be a bust. I can't say I should go above Wyatt Wølker or Mainio Mäkinen but I should have went 3rd.

The whole S26 draft was pretty underwhelming as a whole with several first round busts. A few gems did come out of it though. Robert Andersson, Mattias Holmberg and Don Pellegrino in the 2nd were steals considering the flops at the top. Rick James in the 3rd was a huge steal for Texas as well.

Originally posted by Dangles13+Oct 15 2017, 09:11 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1' id='QUOTE-WRAP'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dangles13 @ Oct 15 2017, 09:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I guess I may has well answer a question eh? [/b]

Oh shit,

<!--QuoteBegin-Pris@Oct 13 2017, 11:41 AM
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Both S21 and S30, Seattle took me as a risky rep member with a good player. I remember <a href='index.php?showuser=83' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-8'>Gifter of Bikes</a> specifically saying he was amazed both Leonidas and I fell down to 7/8 in the draft S21.

Something similar happened in S30. Came back unexpectedly, Gifter didn’t need to give me another chance but he did, and I don’t think other teams wanted to risk me abruptly retiring.

S21, I think I move up to 6th in LA if we’re re-doing everything. S30, I stay the same-ish.