Quote:Originally posted by Merica@Jun 15 2016, 01:10 PM


Sandy Hook: Gun free school zone
Virginia Tech: Gun free school zone
San Bernandino: Gun free
Orlando: Gun free club (you cant carry weapons intoxicated or at a bar period unless it specifically states you can, which is very rare.)

Now I am NOT  advocating right now that we allow teachers or college, I am simply pointing that the places the most recent mass shootings have occurred are places that concealed gun carriers are NOT ALLOWED to carry.  SO FUCKING SHIT THEY DIDNT STOP THEM.

Concealed carry permit holders have stopped numerous shootings and saved numerous lives.  However you never hear about it because its kept off the mainstream media, because God FORBID they actually report positive news involving guns.

http://crimeresearch.org/2015/12/four-conc...-the-last-week/
http://crimeresearch.org/2015/04/uber-driv...ublic-shooting/
http://controversialtimes.com/issues/const...guys-with-guns/
http://kfor.com/2016/01/26/graphic-conceal...of-barber-shop/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/20...-house-robbery/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk994YRlkXQ

I pulled those examples in two minutes. There are tons more. Do a little more research next time and stop listening to all the fucking bullshit lies you are fed.

Yes, so it does happen, but considering the amount of gun crime it is a very low percentage of times it does happen. Yes, there are a lot of considerations for gun-free zones. But you also have to look at other statistics besides just that in a few, and I stress few when compared to the grand scheme, someone did step up.And I did look it up! In almost all of the ones I found, it was a person with handgun or something being stopped. Which is at least better odds than someone armed with an AR-15 and the like. Add to that what you find when looking up good Samaritans that accidentally kill innocents while trying to help, and it's even less helpful to use that as a declaration for needing so many guns.

Maybe if we had less gun-free zones we would see a spike, I'll give you that. I still doubt it puts much of a dent in the statistics like many imagine it would.

You could also be less of a total butthole about assuming I didn't look anything up. And yeah, I called you a butthole.

EDIT: I should also say I'm not against legal guns, just think we don't need so damn many, think that we need to shore up how we go about restricting legal gun availability to those who are at higher risk of using them for ill, and don't believe in taking guns away, even AR-15s, from legal gun owners who already have them. I would be in favor of grandfathering most of that shit in.