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![]() Registered S23, S38 Challenge Cup Champion and wittle pretty princess Quote:Originally posted by Jorec@Aug 24 2016, 03:49 PM Oh, should explain a little then. Nuck has 61 points, as well as 102 PIM, which on average is ~2 min a game. If that two minutes was 5v5 or 4v4, we'd likely get more production. It's a bad stat but used in this case to further the argument. Why ice time as detrimental to one and not the other? Look at the Top 10 leaderboards for minutes played over the last ten seasons, how often has a forward been in the Top 5? This seasons Top 5. McZehrl 1,412 Mins -> 67 Points Garbanzo 1,386 (-26 Mins) -> 52 Points Nuck 1,366 Mins (-46 mins) -> 61 Points Zoidberg 1,355 (-57 mins) -> 26 Points Banananov 1,352 (-60 mins) -> 64 Points It's much less impressive when you have literally played an extra games worth of ice time over 2nd place in league scoring. A bit more context, I took the Top 75 Scorers and sorted by ice time. 1st (Top) VLAD McZerhl 67 Points -> 28.81 Mins Per Game Other players getting 27+ Mins per game Garbanzo 52 Points Banananov 64 Points Roy Razin 55 Points Bubba Nuck 61 Points Kian Hamilton 42 Points Chuck Goody 42 Points Jamie Hawkins 35 Points Wyatt Wolker 42 Points Average 51.1 Points with 27 Mins or More As you can see, this is a bit skewed all over the place. I will look into another list All Forwards over 25 Mins A Game McZerhl 67 (28.81 MPG) Banananov 64 Hamilton 42 Hawkins 35 (27.31 MPG) <--- Is the ONLY forward over 25 mins, not to crack 40 points) Knight 57 Jakobson 54 Boyka 43 (25.57 MPG) Still a bit all over the place though showing around 51, would be more if Hawkins was dropped from ratings. All Defensemen over 25 Mins Garbanzo 52 (28.88 MPG) Razin 55 Nuck 61 Goody 42 Wolker 42 Stinson 45 Lidstrom 55 (26.14 MPG) As you can tell, it's also around 50.28 37th (Middle) Randy Randleman 41 Points -> 20.95 Mins Per Game Players with between 20.75 and 21.25 mins Boychuk 40 Clitsome 41 Koroviev 40 Ballard 34 Bursyuk 35 Makinen 35 Average of 38 Points Per Average 21 Mins Ice Time 75th (Last) Mile Berger 33 Points -> 22.66 Mins Per Game (Increased ice time post trade to Hamilton) 75th (Last - Full Season, Single Team) Edienne Modano 33 Points - 20.00 Mins Per Game Others with 19.00-20.50 Mins per game (not enough between 19.75 and 20.25) Mack 45 Wikstrom 38 Collins 34 Fedorov 48 Pettyfer 40 Modano 33 Simons 42 Average of 39.125 Points for average of 19.75 mins a game. There's the numbers, mins and what you should expect. Make your judgement call as you will. ![]() |
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