Thanks for the feedback <a href='index.php?showuser=2327' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-69'>ztevans</a>!

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- The "free" version of STHS does not allow you to run sims. It is merely a "client" file which allows a coach to edit lines and submit them (via email, dropbox, whatever the simmer prefers) rather than using a text-based line template that requires manual changes. Some simmers prefer using that, some prefer the text-based method, but that's what the "free" sim does.

Similarly, the download link in the index file is for the free client application. It has a different extension than the full-blown league file you'd need to run test sims.
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To clarify, you can actually get the full STHS binary from the website (not the Client) and run it without a license. It just doesn't allow certain features, so you actually can run sims you just can't save it (and thus can't run a proper league). I don't think you can use the file from the website though, someone had to give me another dump if I remember correctly but my memory's hazy.

Quote:Originally posted by ztevans@Jun 30 2017, 10:19 PM<br />
- To touch on <a href='index.php?showuser=1322' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-13'>mpc</a>'s point on build diversity ... don't disagree with anything you said, Clards, but would like to add something that I think goes drastically under-discussed in any diversity conversation is the role of the defense attribute in the sim. It's easily the most important stat in STHS, and it's not even close. For instance, if you want to be a defensive defenseman, you obviously put points into defense. But if you want to be a prolific scoring sniper ... you also have to put a ton of points into defense. You cannot build a truly successful one-way offensive player in this league, even with 99 scoring/skating/puck handling. It's completely counter-intuitive and confuses rookies when you explain it to them for the first time, but it's absolutely vital for building a good player regardless of what you want that player to do. That is probably the biggest factor in the conversation, and yet it hardly ever gets mentioned. The sim really handcuffs us in that regard.

This, combined with finding the sweet spot of randomness, is what concerns me about STHS. Again, I'm not faulting Simon T because this was never meant to be used for sim leagues. However, it's clear that there are certain attributes that are OP (like Defense) and others that are basically dumb for us to invest points in (like Fighting/Penalty Shots).


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- Perhaps most importantly, I appreciate someone entering the conversation admitting they don't have all the answers. Egos can be a terrible thing in these parts, so it's refreshing to see someone having some of the conversations and ideas you have with a rational frame of mind. I do think some of them, particularly in the last 15-20 minutes or so, are a bit radical for our league, but at least I know I can say that without you telling me to go fuck myself with a rusty switchblade. [/quote]
I don't think most of these things have a de facto "right" answer, but in all of my experience in product design the biggest thing I've learned is that there's degrees of wrongness. You can usually steer clear of "stupidly ultimate wrong" if you make planned, calculated decisions.

I agree that some/all of the ideas I put forth towards the end were pretty radical, but I also think that if we were to consider replacing the sim engine with one that's designed for a TPE/RPG experience then it'd make sense to consider other parts of the league that should be adjusted for it too.