Quote:Originally posted by DrunkenTeddy@Apr 15 2018, 07:22 PM

Honestly I have been frustrated with IIHF since Arty took over, I was on the verge of stepping down because of it but tried to discuss it in private. Arty talked to me like all my points were invalid and when I said I would likely step down if the commissioners can't take a good hard look at this and decide how they want the league to work Arty put a vote up for GMs to decide rather than making the decision himself and sent me a pm asking if Nour was going to take over Canada. That's when I decided to go public.

I apologize if I came off that way, I didn't mean to talk down to you if I did, I just felt what'a point without a counter-point, for the sake of discussion. Ultimately, while I don't agree with the main view points you brought up here, I feel like there's better points to be put afford in the inefficiency of democratic decision-making organ without full, or near-full participation, and thus, I feel a change is necessary, and if most Federation Heads do not want reform and instead prefer the previous system of decision-making, than so be it, I believe it to be more productive in this scenario (as in who we have in the HO) anyway.

I had decided how I wanted the league the work with the implementation of the democratic system, and in a perfect world of fully-involved Federation Heads (not saying you or any heads lack enthusiasm, just votes have been hard to come by) this system would be preferable to any autocratic system., in my opinion.

You say you had a problem with me putting the issue to vote, well my biggest problem when I was involved in the SMJHL and IIHF HOs is that I was always felt the most vocal arguments weren't always the most represented, so who am I to decide off of your, and a few others, agreement that the voting wasn't working and take that as an indication of the desires of all involved?

I thought you were great in the discussion that was held in the IIHF HO discord. You provided points without over-emotional delivery that rung true, and counter-points were provided that also rung true, this does not mean your original points are now forfeit.

As for your PM, I wasn't quite sure how to handle the decision. You're mention of stepping down earlier in the discussion came across as an intent if we were to keep voting, as in after the decision on voting was made, so it came across as a shock when you announced that you were resigning. I don't know what normal policy is, nor did I want to kick you out of the discord and LR immediately, as I felt that could be misinterpreted as hostility, so I asked you if you'd like Nour to take over to look for confirmation that you were indeed intending on resigning, and later I realized you left the discord so I messaged asking if you'd like the LR removed as well, taking this as more of a respectful bowing out.

You handled everything with no confrontations and was a great advocate for discussion, I must say this post shocked me once more.