IIHF Expansion?
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Gobbles
Registered Member IIHF Expansion?
A look at the feasibility of adding new nations to international competitions
Author: Gobbles Word Count: 4340, not including the chart (Not sure how to quantify that). A proud member of TurkeyTime Media Hello! In this article, I hope to break down the nationalities of those who play in the SHL and SMJHL in regards to international competition, and provide information for those interested in these sorts of demographics. Also discussed will be the possibility of a future IIHF expansion format, how long it could take to occur and what it may look like.I hope in the comments there can be a discussion on IIHF teams and nationalities, and whether such an implementation could be feasible. Featuring in this article is IIHF Commissioner Artermis, who kindly responded to a few questions I posed to them about the current state, and the future, of the IIHF! In the table below, I have broken down the birthplaces of every player currently signed with a team in the SHL or SMJHL as of the trade deadline this year (SHL S44). This list does not include any upcoming S46 prospects not currently signed to an SMJHL team as a free agent, nor does it include any free agents unsigned by a team. Forgoing any SHL free agents was a choice made in order to avoid the majority of Inactive players (who are usually dropped from IIHF teams anyways unless very desperate times occur), with this chart only including those who are currently employed at either of the league levels. Also, in order to keep things easy to track and to explore the possibility of adding new IIHF teams, I have prioritized the players birthplace over their international transfer or declaration, so this chart does not directly compare to each international team’s existing roster (A lot of American and Canadian transfers to other teams!) Links: The updated and current rosters, transfers and all, as well as the eligible players lists, can be found at these links: Austria: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=302 Canada: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=303 Czechoslovakia: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=482 Finland: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=305 Germany: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=306 Ireland: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=481 Latvia: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=460 Norway: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=480 Russia: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=308 Sweden: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=310 United Kingdom: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=312 United States: http://simulationhockey.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=311 Now, without further ado, the chart! Remember, this only accounts for birthplaces, not transferred eligibility. Stats: Country C LW RW D G Total Players USA 6 25 23 31 14 99 Canada 17 24 13 20 7 81 Germany 3 1 5 12 0 21 Ireland 3 6 1 9 1 20 Russia 7 2 6 5 3 23 Hungary 0 0 0 3 0 3 Latvia 7 3 6 6 2 24 Wales 0 1 1 2 0 4 U.K. 5 7 3 8 1 14 Switzlnd. 1 0 2 0 1 4 Finland 2 2 7 6 2 19 Austria 1 3 2 9 1 16 Sweden 5 7 4 2 2 20 Norway 3 4 3 9 2 21 Cze. 5 5 3 6 1 20 Japan 1 2 1 2 0 6 Italy 0 3 2 0 0 5 France 1 0 0 1 1 3 OTHER 6 2 6 14 7 35 Hopefully, this can be something I update season to season, removing retired players/released inactive free agents from the list, and then adding those newly signed into the SHL/SMJHL. Then if there is anyone interested in their new player/re-create competing in international play and wants to have a good shot of joining a national team sooner rather than later, they can consult the list to see where spots are needed/easier to make. Even if adding new teams is unfeasible, this chart could be an at-a-glance referral to see which federations might be short on what roles. Inferring and Stuff: Some observations when breaking down the chart:
Future Expansion Okay, and now, on to the other main point of this article. Looking at the chart, I showed every nation that had at least 3 players born there on the chart, whereas if you had 2 or less, they were lumped into the “Other” category. The “Other” category included some exotic places like Madagascar, Poland, Indonesia, Antarctica, Lithuania, Costa Rica, Australia, Greenland, Zimbabwe, Kanye West’s Heart, “IIHF Sucks”, Mexico, Icleand, Belgium, South Africa… et cetera. However, there were a couple of nations that actually had a few players from a non-IIHF nation, with some hockey growth occurring in Switzerland (4 players), Italy (5 players), and, surprisingly, Japan (6 players, the highest from any non-IIHF SHL member-nation. If these numbers continue to grow, perhaps there could be a push for an expansion for a couple new IIHF participants (just going by numbers here, let’s say Japan and Italy). Only if new recreates committed to either of these nations at an increased rate, and undoubtedly needing the support of existing players using their one international transfer, it would not be impossible, but would take time to set up. This definitely would not be a one-season overnight change - it would take a few seasons for enough players to amass enough talent to create a team - and that hinges on interest in two new countries for new players/recreates in the second place (Not necessarily Japan and Italy, but those two have the best head start). So, if two new teams were somehow added to the IIHF competitions, how would that change the way the tournament is structured? To answer that, we’ll have to take a look at how the tournament is currently structured: As it is now, the 12 participating teams are divided into two pools of 6. In each pool, teams play a “home-and-away” against each other team in their pool, for a total of 10 games each. The top four teams from each pool move on to the quarterfinals (the knockout stages), and the bottom two teams in each pool are eliminated. Looking for possible spitballs regarding an IIHF expansion, I approached current IIHF Commissioner Artermis with a couple of questions. Here is what they replied with! Do you think an IIHF expansion be feasible over the next few seasons? “Being the eligible list updater for the World Juniors has allowed me to observe the most popular birth places that are not currently allocated a federation in the IIHF. As it is now, Japan, Poland, Hungary, and France are the most popular unassigned nations, with Italy being a popular choice in the past. As the IIHF is managed currently, I don't think any unassigned nation has the numbers to warrant a new team so that's the first signal I'd use to create a new team. The second being a more establish and competitive 12 teams that we have currently. Sure, superpower dominance is nearly a thing of the past, but our smallest federations still struggle with small player pools; Czechoslovakia had only 23 in the early S30's but has made a significant comeback. Once small teams begin to perform well enough in recruitment and on the ice so as to be near equals with everyone else, that is a good sign that expansion should be sought.” Do you believe the site has enough active members to sustain another two IIHF teams? “As I stated previously, currently there are not enough players in unassigned nations to support them, but in a general sense, yes I do believe we have enough players in general: we have 14 SHL teams, not to mention 8 SMJHL teams, and we are looking at possible expansion to add more, yet we only have 12 IIHF teams, so in short, yes.” If additional teams were ever expanded into the IIHF schedule, what possible changes could you foresee to the tournament format, if any? “That'd be something we could toy around with, but reactions to changes in the IIHF have often been met with resistance, or at least major changes. We do have a system that works, but I like to think that you can improve anything. That being said, while I don't think a two team expansion would necessarily warrant a change to our format, some things could absolutely be looked at, such as: a revival of the IIHF long schedule (qualifiers throughout the entire season), the creations of divisions, or perhaps a general overhaul of the tournaments format.” Wrapping it Up Okay, so this one looks like could be much more straightforward than I was making it - don’t fix what ain’t broke. If two new teams were eventually added, at this point they could simply change the pool sizes to 7 each, and increase the number of teams eliminated from each pool in the round-robin to 3. This would increase competition, and increase the number of games per round-robin simmed to 12 total games played per team and 68 games between both pools before the knockout stages. The final prospect of an IIHF expansion is unlikely to happen in the near future, but with the good amount of activity on the site and and some positive thinking, this basically boils down to an “if-you-build-it-they-will-come” kind of scenario. If enough users start to make players from certain countries, then the room is there to make a new team. But in a good showing of common sense, the higher ups won’t just create a new team without at least a semi-established pool of players, as well as seeing signs of bolstering in the less stacked IIHF squads. Some potential candidates are the new areas of growth Artermis pointed out in places like Japan, Poland, Hungary, and France. All in all, this was a fun little experiment/data collection for me that I hope is mildly entertaining or useful to you readers, and gives somewhat new information. And maybe, just maybe, this information can be useful to a new player/recreate interested in their player performing in International competitions. After picking a position, one could look to see where their player might be most needed, and round out the international playing field a little. Also, I’d love to hear all of your thoughts on this, the potential for new IIHF teams, and suggestions on how to better implement/present the data! References: @artermis |
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IIHF Expansion? - by Gobbles - 12-02-2018, 08:46 PM
RE: IIHF Expansion? - by Zoone16 - 12-02-2018, 08:51 PM
RE: IIHF Expansion? - by Good_Ole_Kimmy - 12-02-2018, 09:44 PM
RE: IIHF Expansion? - by daBenchwarmer - 12-02-2018, 09:55 PM
RE: IIHF Expansion? - by artermis - 12-03-2018, 02:00 PM
RE: IIHF Expansion? - by majesiu - 12-16-2018, 05:46 PM
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