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12-27-2018, 08:27 PMBonk Wrote: Again, I was not trying to fight, but was merely point out that this might not be your best argument.  I was really trying to stay out of it considering I am on the ballot.  
Although if you are going to pull me in fine, I’ll bite.

12-27-2018, 06:29 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: Then counter the argument instead of just labeling my entire argument invalid because I personally played a ton of minutes?

I never said that you titled to use that argument I was saying was I do not think this is your best argument. Although you certainly seems sensitive to the topic.

12-27-2018, 06:29 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: This is such an odd route for you to take considering we had a pretty healthy (at least in my opinion) back and forth about ice time between our podcasts.

I am not sure what “route” you are referring too.  I am puzzled by the first part of this statement.
Although I agree with you, it was a good back and forth.

12-27-2018, 06:29 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: No, I do not think that you can rely on the P/20 average to continue at the same rate if you play more minutes.

I never said relied on it but it should be looked at. Just like Pederson becoming eighth all time in scoring while the helping the Dragon won five cups should be looked at. Pederson did not become eighth all time because he was an average player nor did the Dragon win five cups because he was an average player.  

12-27-2018, 06:29 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: Yes I believe that playing more minutes per game can be a factor in top-tier players earning more points than others.

That kind of, sort of, sounds like the difference between, Hall of Fame and Hall of Very Good.

12-27-2018, 06:29 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: Yes I believe it should be taken into account more closely.

Okay

12-27-2018, 06:29 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: Do you object to any of those statements?

No, I really don’t

I am somewhat sensitive to this topic because this thread was started with an incredulous poster getting upset because Pedersen wasn't a first ballot hall of famer and that this is somehow a "spit in the face of the SHL. That coupled with an insinuation that there was some bias involved with leaving him out on the part of the committee is frustrating, ESPECIALLY considering this is not the first time people have gotten aggressively angry at us for certain players not being inducted in a given year (see: Kinsler).

Then what frustrated me about your initial response was I inferred it to be scoffing at my argument and rendering my opinion completely invalid due to it having something possibly to do with my player. If you were meaning something else, I apologize, but I hope you can understand why I would take your initial comment towards me in a way that came across as unnecessarily aggressive (which is what I meant by the "route" you were taking in response to me).

I think the rest we are generally in agreement about, and I look forward to more elaboration on the topic in your next podcast. For the record your podcast with Esa bringing up ice time was enlightening and I hope to take the points discussed between you three into account going forward.

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HOF Are you Kidding me? - by DeletedAtUserRequest - 12-26-2018, 10:54 AM
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