03-24-2019, 11:38 AMsarmo Wrote:

03-24-2019, 03:33 AMBoomcheck Wrote: That line carried your defense, huh? How about this.

They were LITERALLY your defense. You even had Watson on the PK defense. Not quite sure I have seen those top line teams literally playing defense. Just admit it, the Chiefs just shoved the highest TPE player they could out there regardless of position. You didn't trust your defense. It's not even a matter of a 'depleted defense'. You literally didn't even let a single one onto the top PP either. How these guys going to perform when they not even put in the position to succeed?

Chiefs are 0-2 vs. me and Tampa this season.

Your glorious line combined for a -9, each player being -3. TOGETHER they combined for 1 goal, only 1. I produced 15 shots on them and scored 3 goals, coming out with a +3. First star and second star in those games. In one of those games they were LITERALLY ON THE ICE FOR OVER 28 MINUTES EACH, HALF THE DAMN GAME AND I STILL SMACKED THEM SILLY.  Y'all legit got trashed by me.

If you earnestly think this the top line in SHL history, cool. I can say I man handled the greatest line ever assembled.

Other teams lines that end up being top 10 in minutes played
Chiefs (S45)
Chiefs (S32)

I went back like 20 season (S27 Index and before busted so I can't check lines), but congratulations. All three times when a forward line logs top 10 in minutes played leaguewide ARE THE CHIEFS! W T F. Most of the times when teams got a bunch of forwards up in the top 10 it involved a second center, the Chiefs are the only franchise from S28-S46 to play their top line top 10 in mins.

A) Watson was 2nd among forwards on the index leaderboards in blocked shots? Our players have roles and one of Watsons roles is to play on the PK, we give our stars the minutes because they can handle it and no one complains cuz the stars perform. All 3 guys were given roles they can handle which shows the responsibility of these 3 players and makes an even stronger case for them because of their success within these minutes. All our active defensemen see big minutes so that argument is foolish. Wozy and pelletier saw first PP line minutes so they can play above 23 mpg and our 2nd defense line( who were also our only active defenders at the time) already play at 25 mpg and both had very successful seasons but good try.

B) congrats, I'm glad you feel a sense of accomplishment against the league's top line. Do it in a 7 game series when coach actually cares about adjustments.

C) your saltiness towards the Chiefs is pretty exaggerated. There are plenty of times teams had their best players in the top 10. S33, s37, s42 etc the only reason it's not always 3 guys from the same line is because teams usually split their 3rd highest minute guy onto the 2nd line unlike us who completely stack the top line.

A) Why are you playing a forward on PK defense? You are literally intending to TPE wall your lines. Are you taking bride in Watson's shots blocked? Because I disregard them entirely. He is not second among forwards in blocked shots because he as literally a defenseman on the PK. All active defensemen see big minutes? Does quality not matter? They hardly get to play with 'the best line' on the PP. You literally had 5 forwards on your first PP unit, which is why they saw those minutes. In fact when you rank PP minutes there's 6 forwards before a defenseman appears. A few other teams have that disparity, but the Chiefs are the only one that has the difference at OVER 20 MINUTES.

B) Bring it. If I could choose which team I wanted to face in a 7 game series round one for easiest competition? It's this season's Minnesota Chiefs.

C) Not sure what your response is tbh, it seems to be proving my point. Look. This isn't illegal. You're within your rights, but I do have a case that you toss your guys all over the ice in an abuse of durability/endurance. I posted the Jets line who were before in offensive efficiency, playing less minutes and Visser still outscored y'all. Bearss, his winger, performed better than any of the Chiefs forwards.

03-24-2019, 12:48 PMBaelor Swift Wrote: Maybe instead of complaining about something that is completely legal, realize you're saying this about a franchise that has proven you don't need to tank and dish off core players to have long-term success. Should Minnesota just rebuild every time it can't roll a full three lines? I think we've proven it's not necessary and it's paid of with success and immense amounts of two-way loyalty. We currently have THREE recreates on the team (drafted by the team as well) who played the vast majority of their first players' careers with the Chiefs. A fourth who is now Co-GM who played the last couple seasons of his career with the Chiefs before being drafted with his recreate. The Chiefs have been around for 41 seasons now. Of the nine players who played at least 500 games with the team ever, six have played 500+ games with the team in the period between Season 32 and now (15 seasons) and all but one was drafted by the team. So maybe take a step back and think about the situation in Minnesota... that what you are seeing is actually the result of a franchise that is extremely strong and stable and hasn't missed the playoffs in consecutive seasons since Seasons 19-21 and since Season 32, have made the playoffs 12 times in 15 seasons and have advanced past the first round six times in the past ten playoffs.

Yeah, it's legal. You're not breaking any rules.

Doesn't mean I believe them to be the best line in SHL history. I have never made a simple finesse player so maybe my views are slanted that way but ...

I simply am not in favor of a forward playing on the PK defense if they do not have defense as a strength.
I am fine with forwards playing on the PP, we see it in hockey a lot these days and I saw the Devils use Kovalchuk in that role all the time. I just don't appreciate the 5 forward unit on the PP, and the Chiefs aren't the only team to do this so I don't mean to just batter Minnesota here. It's just the topic of conversation came up regarding this 'Greatest line ever' thing.

I believe in some tactical variance and shifting things around, but I feel teams in the league are taking too much liberty with injuries being off. As of now, no rules have been broken but I think the league should take a closer look at this.

Not quite sure why you're bringing up the Chiefs history to me. They're one of my favorite franchises, the only cup i've won is with them in S10.