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St. Louis Scarecrows Punishment

04-23-2019, 12:16 PMSegi Wrote: With that said, let me explain why I'm convinced that our reaction was adequate in this case:

There are 3 parties at fault in this case:
  • STL management, who picked at a position they shouldn't have and therefore got a free player.
  • COL management, who saw the wrong draft order posted and didn't remember that they should own the pick in quesiton.
  • The pick tracker, who didn't process the trade correctly, which lead to the wrong draft order being posted.
If you want to blame HO for not firing the pick tracker sooner, that's fair. But you can't expect from HO, to go over every trade from the last couple of seasons to double check the draft order, before posting it.

Colorado and St. Louis made the exact same mistake in this case - not keeping track of their own picks. Sure, Colorado ended up getting the short stick in the whole thing, but that doesn't change the fact that they just as much at fault here as St. Louis is. If we simply gave Colorado their pick back, we're saying that you don't have to keep track of the picks, you've traded for, because if you miss one, we'll just punish the other team and hand it back to you. That's not how we keep these situations from happening.
St. Louis got taken away two picks, because they actually got a player out of the trade and we can't unmake that.

So it's reasonable to expect a team to thoroughly review their trade partner's actions and verify all parts of a trade but not reasonable for to expect HO to monitor league trades and own at least some of the blame for the state of the pick tracker beyond "Well, we fired that guy so it's all good now?"

I don't see how giving Colorado a compensatory pick as a mea culpa for the situation isn't a huge ask just because they didn't catch it before the draft. Lots of people should have caught it long before it got to that point, so why not just try to make the best of a bad situation and move on?

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St. Louis Scarecrows Punishment - by Nobody - 04-22-2019, 09:24 PM
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