06-02-2020, 06:42 PMBasedMinkus Wrote:

06-02-2020, 06:07 PMCarbine Wrote: Now, with that being said, and before someone calls me a racist, I largely support the BLM movement and their right to peaceful protest, like every other person in a free society. They aren't being withheld from that right, even during a worldwide pandemic (which has oddly become less of a big deal over the past few days, it seems). I do not support the rioting and looting that are being sparked by these protests, however. George Floyd's family has said on numerous occasions that they want the violence to stop. Wasn't his death the reason this all boiled over? Why are the riots and looting continuing then?

And as for Mark Rycroft, the reason this thread even exists, come on. The dude owns a liquor store that, presumably, was being looted during one of the riots in Colorado. I'd be pissed too if my business was being destroyed by lawless thugs. While I don't wish for a similar kind of retribution that he described, the reaction to what was probably a very emotional night for him is absolutely justified. Maybe not on a public forum, and as a locally known sportscaster, but justified nonetheless.

Just to focus on these two pieces.

People are being withheld from their right to peaceful protest. It has happened in Sacramento, LA, Denver, the list goes on. Hell peaceful protesting was the first thing that was tried when the BLM movement started (2013) with Kapernick kneeling and people had problems with that. There is history that shows rioting as being one of the only things people in charge will listen to (Civil Rights act passing in 68, Men abusing women in the suffrage movement to ratify the 19th amendment). Please do not act as though people didn't try to protest peacefully. The majority of the world is only taking notice of this because of the intense violence.


The second point. What Rycroft said was short-sighted and privileged. When White people got up in arms because they couldn't get a hair cut, no one bats an eye at the aggressiveness that some took but because it is a BLM issue, they have to do things in a certain way that make whites feel okay. There are two sides to this issue and if you are on the fence then you are on the side of being racist. Property can be rebuilt, black lives cannot be brought back.

Unfortunately just saying something has happened won't make me believe it actually happened at this point. If you're talking specifically about the civil rights protests and the suffrage movement, I'd be further inclined to take you at your word. But with all the chaos and editorialized news out there right now, you'd be hard-pressed to find a truly non-biased news source. I'm not so sure one exists anymore.

As for your second point, you had me for most of it until you pulled the 'only two sides' argument. Immediately labeling a group of people something that you know has a negative connotation is just getting stale. I have nothing else to say about the rest it, you showed your hand.