06-04-2020, 05:33 AMmajesiu Wrote:

06-03-2020, 04:38 PMSlashACM Wrote: How dense do you have to be to think that the looters are doing it in the name of the protests

Well, some publicist like NYT's Nikole Hannah-Jones that are supportive of the protesters aren't helping here:

Quote:HANNAH-JONES: [...] I mean, this is the thing. You are asking people whose communities have been looted for decades, who don't have proper schools, who don't have proper amenities, who have been -- when we see someone killed by the police, that is the worst manifestation of police violence, but it doesn't get to the daily police violence that doesn't end in death, the daily degradations that black Americans face, the fact that these communities have been preyed upon by predatory lenders.
It goes on and on. And so, when we think about someone taking an act to take something from some big box name store, it is symbolic. That one pair of shoes that you have stolen from Foot Locker is not going to change your life, but it is a symbolic taking.

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Also, please don't label me just for providing some context - I believe systematic racism is big issue not just in the US and my PolitiScale is literally Equality/Humanity/Socialism.
To give some additional perspective how the recent events are perceived outside the US in the Poland - the most it was talked about was when Kościuszko's monument was vandalized during riots (btw. he was not only a war hero both in the US during American Revolutionary War and later in Poland, but left in his will instructions to sell all his properties in the US and use money to free Jefferson slaves and educate them - sadly those were never used in that way...). We also had single march of support for BLM (organized by left-leaning youth organization), which was perceived rather indifferently since while we have other equality issues here (centered mostly about conflict Catholic Church/Conservatives vs LGBT+) the systematic racism isn't one of them, even aforementioned EU report by @Baelor Swift didn't name Poland there at all.

Still, while there is a lot of justified rage I barely see any constructive proposals how to fix this unjust situation. This was literally only thing I encountered: https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comm...brutality/ - which tbh I'm quite shocked to see aren't a thing regulated by federal law already, definitely those are things worth fighting for. While not condoning violence (especially since often innocent people are getting hurt & their lifetime achievements are getting destroyed) we have plenty of historical examples of issues that weren't solved before public outrage & riots after c peaceful measures failed short - whether it was suffrage movement, stopping senseless war in Vietnam, fall of communism in Eastern Europe or Arab Spring just to name a few.

I think for the most part it can be boiled down to: police are all collected in one place, at the protests (where they are beating the peaceful protesters senseless) and looters are taking advantage of there essentially being no police force to protect businesses