02-01-2021, 10:44 PMfrithjofr Wrote:

02-01-2021, 07:39 PMteztify Wrote: While I appreciate not everyone will agree with this, I usually like to give my thoughts, and I'm fine with people thinking I'm soft. Maybe it'll fall on deaf ears while we all meme the first few pages of this. My initial reaction to the report was similar to all of yours - it's a dab, it's a gnome, who cares.

The thing is that, obviously, we have no problem with gnoming or gatoring people on Discord. It's not a punishment for that.

The problem here, from my point of view, comes more from the attitude Ragnar had in the situation. It's a pretty minor thing to have bother somebody, but the fact of the matter is that it did. The member in question asked that it stop, several times, and each time it ramped up. I'm of the view we could all benefit from a bit thicker skin, and frankly it's ridiculous to be writing this about gnoming somebody. But, the role of HO is also to enforce the rules and promote the activity of all members in our league. The rule is explicitly against excessive trolling, which this was based on the number of times and places this happened, with Ragnar even following him into his retirement thread. Because it's a pretty minor instance of what could count as trolling, no action was going to be taken. Ragnar, though, was dismissive of a message from a Head Office member asking him to back off, and I've come to understand was celebratory about the resulting retirement.

On a personal note, and this doesn't factor into the punishment - it's upsetting a grown adult former Commissioner chooses to spend his time on the site, after being unbanned, taking the fun out of it for someone else.

It just seems weird that this is the targeted harassment complaint that gets responded to, meanwhile after NOLA's punishment thread for me breaking the 3 lines rules in the playoffs, I got some major targeted harassment, including homophobic and ableist slurs, and when I complained about them to Nour, I never heard back. Still have not heard back to this day, over a year later. I took it up with Corey, then commissioner, and he didn't get back to me for months. Not until I publicly posted about the lack of response I was receiving from HO. Then, and only then, did I get a response from Corey that he promised he would look into it, and... then I never heard another word of it after that.

But sure, ban fucking rags for reacting with an emoji on discord. Dude could have just, idk, ignored/muted rags.

Ps:

get gnomed, chump.

Without speaking to situations I'd have to go back and look at, this is an example of a big problem I have with reactions to things like this.

People complain about decisions, but they also complain about a lack of consistency. What do you want? Should we look at reactions like this and take the feedback to heart and learn from it and become a better HO? Or should we stick to our guns and not suspend things because something like what happened to Dankoa - which should've been suspended - wasn't in the past?

Do you want to complain about decisions or consistency, 'cuz we've been having it both ways and I'm not sure how reasonable that is.