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***Gwdjohnson*** · 04-09-2021, 08:00 PM

04-09-2021, 07:46 PMluketd Wrote: I might as well respond to some replys to this thread. I am going to be as honest as I can about this

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@Acsolap @Keygan

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Why is this not on the budget team who have routinely failed to execute their job properly?

This is still in the works. We wanted to get this out as soon as possible because we wanted ML to appeal as soon as possible so this issue can get dealt with before the season started.

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So retroactive punishments are a thing now? How far back can we go? Just curious becuase this seems to be a new thing that hasn't been done in the league before.
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Appeal the fuck out of this. Retroactive punishment from 4 seasons ago is a slippery slope, that rabbit hole is deep.
@golden_apricot @"Simply Incorrect"

For Golden and Simply
There has been retroactive punishments before, some you can discuss about whether it should have happened before or not

it is a slippery slope to get into, because what happens is that you can get stuff brought up a long time ago.I will say this, the contract was signed a year ago, but the issue itself is a S56 issue when the Bonus was paid out, which is around 9/12 at the start of S56 and 11/21 at the end of S56. So about 3 seasons ago. I got this presented to me on Thursday as the wording was a gray area in the budget person's eye. I talked to him about this and I said I would bring it to HO, where we make the decisions.

As for how long retroactively we can punish. It is something that we have to talk about in HO and with the Owners. And with the appeal we will find out as well. This is a thing that I did not want to ignore or sweep under the rug when it was brought to me. Even though it happened 3 seasons ago, it has to be brought up. Not bringing up this situation is worse in my eyes. You can debate on whether the decision is fair, and the owners will decide as well. But this conversation needs to happen, but one day it was going to happen.

@Capt_Blitzkrieg
So the main argument is through

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If a player meets the requirements for a bonus in their contract, the bonus is paid out and counts towards the following season’s cap (ex. Player achieves a bonus in S50, bonus is paid out in S51 and counts towards the S51 Salary Cap).

For us, since the bonus was for the S56 season, if they complete the bonus, it would go to S57. I do see where ML is coming from, I do understand, but per this rulebook rule, HO decided that the bonus would have to be in S57. Again, with the appeal we will see what the owners say, and decide and we will go from there, and adjust.

@golden_apricot @Gwdjohnson
If you think a HO is being biased or targeting a certain Team please dm me about it. I will not tolerate it.

That being said this decision was approved by all of HO, not just one, but all.

One thing about being a co-commish is that I hate punishment, but it has to be done and we will try our best to make the right decision. Sometimes people don't see eye to eye on it, sometimes we could be looking at it on one angle, and the GM or user can look at it on another and it goes to the owners. They have the final say and we will be fine with whatever way they go. Talking about it important because you should be heard and talked to. I try my best to explain the best I can of the situation. Nobody is perfect and I think the biggest goal of mine is to continue to improve the site and adjust when needed. This is only my 2nd full season as co-commish and I plan on trying my best each season to improve the league and try to make the best decisions I can for the league

Thank u luke you are very handsome and wise

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