04-10-2021, 02:24 AMCapt_Blitzkrieg Wrote:

04-09-2021, 07:46 PMluketd Wrote: So the main argument is through

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If a player meets the requirements for a bonus in their contract, the bonus is paid out and counts towards the following season’s cap (ex. Player achieves a bonus in S50, bonus is paid out in S51 and counts towards the S51 Salary Cap).

For us, since the bonus was for the S56 season, if  they complete the bonus, it would go to S57. I do see where ML is coming from, I do understand, but per this rulebook rule, HO decided that the bonus would have to be in S57. Again, with the appeal we will see what the owners say, and decide and we will go from there, and adjust.

I think my problem here is that the way I read the rule, it says that as long as the bonus specifies its dependence on the criteria having been met the season before the bonus is paid out, it's compliant. That's it. 

The rule doesn't say that it has to be labelled S56 Bonus and apply to S57. The rule also does not say that adding a condition for bonus based on a season that is already under contract is not allowed. The way ml worded the contract posting specified that the bonus would be paid out in S56 for criteria met in S55. The season chosen for these bonuses was not breaking either rule mentioned since it's not modifying anything about the players' S55 contracts the way the contract thread was written. It wasn't modifying a pre-existing contract in S56 since they didn't have signings for S56.

You're telling me that it makes logical sense for a contract to say "Bonus for S56" and mean "Paid out in S57, based on S56" without some extra labelling? Even then, ml's contract thread had extra labelling. This really feels like a few seasons ago when there was a big to-do about how trades of future picks are labelled, and we ultimately decided that you label it with possible seasons and the indication of Reddit Pick or Protected. So clarify the rule to add labelling for which season the performance is based on and which season the payout and cap hit come in, drop the punishment, and be done with this. The interpretations we're arguing are Fucking semantics.

The rule clearly states

The contracts with the bonuses we signed to start in S56. The stipulation of the contract starts in S56, not S55. Even though the completion for the bonus was done in S55, the stipulation goes into effect in S56, so that means by the rulebook that the bonus is paid out and counts towards the following season's cap, which is S57.

The first contract was for 2 seasons
S54 and S55, both with no bonus.

During the 2nd day of regular season in S55 they were extended with bonus stipulations
S56 and S57.

The bonus stipulation goes active in the S56 season, so by the rulebook, the bonus is paid out, and that 2 mil counts towards then next season's cap, which is S57.



In that same thread about extensions there was this bonus

which is correct. if they reach 750 TPE by the end of S57 the bonus goes into effect for the next season, which is S58.

The part where the contention is from the example which is


Where I can see the argument of if a person completes a task in S55, then the bonus would be applied in S56. But since the bonus stipulation starts in S56, it has to go to S57.