08-12-2021, 06:30 PMluketd Wrote:

08-11-2021, 02:48 PMTommySalami Wrote: The off-season isn't being hit all too hard by the shortening. The sim team is going to be the biggest help to this, with a sim team we can fit a few more games during each sim and shorten the regular season by a few days, not skip Sundays during the playoffs and start the next round om the evening if game 7s are finished during an afternoon sim.

I know Luke is working on a presentable schedule that will hopefully put people's minds to ease.

Implementing it this offseason is extremely unlikely because of the Juniors expansion.

Days between draft
S56: 70
S57: 70
S58: 63
S59: 70
S60: 64


So now the question is, how do we get it back down into the 50's. The average days in a season from S40-S52 is 56 days. The average days in a season from S53-S60 is 64.

Well how can we make it
1. Schedule is more consistant so that we can plan seasons months in advance
2. Make is so that we can have more seasons in a year
3. Make the most people happy

So first of all, whats the schedule like right now. We can take S60 as an example, as the average days of a season in FHM is 64 days

6/12 - SHL Draft

Week 1: 6/13 - 6/20: Draft + offseason
Week 2: 6/20 - 6/26: Preseason + 3 days of RS
Week 3: 6/27 - 7/03: 2nd week of RS
Week 4: 7/04 - 7/10: 3rd week of RS
Week 5: 7/11 - 7/17: 4th week of RS + Trade deadline
Week 6: 7/18 - 7/22: SHL & SMJHL season ends 7/23 - 7/25 there is nothing
Week 7: 7/25 - 7/31 - 1st week of playoffs
Week 8: 8/1 - 8/7 - 2nd week of playoffs
Week 9: 8/8 - 8/11 - final week of playoffs ; 8/12 - 8/14 "offseason" + Draft

My proposition would eliminate the 5th week of regular season, to also elimnate the 7/23 - 7/25 days of nothing. Because there are 25 days of regular season + 3 days of preseason, we have 28 days of it, which does not go into 6 days evenly.

My proposition(which Kal said would work with 3 simmers), would be to cut the regular season by 4 days, allowing 21 regular season + 3 preseason, allowing for 24 days of preseason + regular season, making it an even 4 weeks.

Week 1: Draft + 1 week of offseason
Week 2: Preseason + 3rdays of RS
Week 3: 2nd week of RS + trade deadline
Week 4: 3rd week of RS
Week 5: Final week of playoffs
Week 6: 1st week of playoffs
Week 7: 2nd week of playoffs
Week 8: 3rd week of playoffs + the 3 days of offseason
Week 9: Start of new season


It is something that we can accurately plan out seasons months in advance.

Now you can say, why do we need 3 weeks of playoffs, so if you want to eliminate the 3rd week of playoffs, then you would have 1 week of offseason before the draft, which doesnt really do much, as much of the offseason tasks are after the draft.

if you collapse the playoffs into 2 weeks you would have the finals end on a saturday.

lets say you go, each series is 3 days. So 2 rounds are in a week.

Week 6: 1st and 2nd round of playoffs
Week 7: 3rd and 4th round of playoffs
Week 8: Full week of offseason then draft on that saturday.
Week 9: FUll week of offseason with preseason that coming monday.


As a former GM I cant justify having a week of an offseason before a draft, and I cant justify having the draft right after the finals.

With 3 simmers, it will be enable us to collapse the sims into ~31-37 sims a day. I already talked to Kal about it, he said
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yeah that's a good idea I think, we'd need consistent people that can sim their full week, also easier on the livestreams since you look at the schedule and like o cool kal is simming so this week games are at 3pm, then next week ok cool this week games are at 5pm, so less of back and forth, 4 fewer irl days to sim that's nice, more work on sim days but with 3 simmers it shouldn't be too bad. I would expect at most 5 live games if we go with 30-35 games a day tho, that's probably around 90 mins already I think

You seem to have put quite a bit of thought into this but for me one question still kinda remains unanswered: Why? Why do we need to do all of this, what's the purpose?

I get wanting to have more consistent scheduling to allow us to plan seasons in advance, although I doubt it will ever be perfect, you'll always need some buffer days which will add up over the course of multiple seasons.

But more importantly, what's the point of shaving off significant amounts or regular season or playoff time while barely touching off-season length? All that would do is make our action-vs-inaction ratio worse. We would essentially end up with more downtime and less to do, even if we manage to squeeze an extra season into each calendar year. I don't see how short seasons are inherently "better" than longer ones. I guess making progression faster both on an individual and a team level is one argument for it but we would essentially make every season mean less if we inflate the number & the speed of them. And the more we cut in regards to the regular season, the harder the impact will be particularly for all the teams that don't go deep in the playoffs - you know, the teams that already don't have much fun as is due to the parity issues we are still struggling with.

It is interesting to compare the seasons lengths we have today to those of let's say the S40s but I don't think that comparison holds up completely - we simply have more games to get through nowadays both in the regular season and the playoffs and we are also running a different engine and putting a bigger emphasis on live stream. Of course seasons will be timed slightly differently to how they were 10 seasons ago because of that, I don't see this as an issue.