08-21-2021, 12:43 AMJayWhy Wrote:

08-20-2021, 11:57 PMLeafs4ever Wrote: I'm genuinely not sure what you all want me to say. Teddy told you we ran, basically, an expedited appeals process and changed the decision. Did you all think I would come in and say I don't agree with Teddy? Teddy offered to post the decision and explained our reasoning. I'm being genuine, what do you need to hear from me?

First, I thought the actual rule in play here was unneeded. Second, what Hamilton did was so very clearly not against what the spirit of the rule was about. Teams needed to agree to terms on a contract 24 hours before GM tasks were due. They had agreements in place, that to me is the biggest factor. They weren't leaving them unsigned to horde them, they got lazy and forgot to post the signing thread, they were an hour late. I said this to HO, I'm baffled that people, GMs especially, seem to not care about DM contract agreements. That has always been the precedent in this league. How is it fair to send those 3 players to a bidding process when they had already agreed to terms with the team that drafted them?

This is not the first time a punishment has been reduced. The only difference was we sped up the process because time called for it. We've had appeals before that changed HO's decision, why didn't anyone come out then and scream at us for undermining them?

We've had an appeals committee before, several different iterations of them. Each time the committee has been disbanded because of the league trashing them for every decision and crying bias on every ruling. We kept trying and it was the same thing every time.

I've said this to every commissioner we've ever had. You hold the ultimate power in this league. If you don't like something, change it. Nour and Luke have the option to change whatever they want if they don't like how this process played out. As an "owner" of this league, I've always just been there for support and to offer advice whenever I can.

The commissioner hold ultimate power, yet you undermined their decision on this. It may have only been Luke overseeing it in the commissioner role, but then shouldn't his voice be the one that holds power based on what you said here?

Like I said, I understand letting them keep the players. I do think this was an extremely reduced sentencing from effectively losing 3 1st round picks to losing a 2nd over a year later and a million on the cap, and I think that's where we're all incredulous here. At no point do I expect you to say you disagree, it's that I want to understand your views and based on the views you laid out here you worked opposite of them by diminishing the power of the commissioner and their appointed head office members. Ultimately, what is the point of you being involved in the head office decisions in that matter if you think the commissioners hold all the power instead?

I'll make a proposal here that commissioners should outreach to you for advice if needed, and otherwise you should not offer up your beliefs as you then undermine them because the power structure is apparently poorly defined here and they believe they answer to you.

I'll also propose that rather than you withdrawing from the head office role and rather than starting an appeals committee, we should have the head office rule without the commissioners involved and the commissioners join the owners to effectively be the appeals committee and make final decisions. I think what ultimately is a two person committee with the owners needs to grow, as fewer voices means one can drown out the other, and so even growing it in this situation to four people instead would be helpful to ensure better coverage.

I would also like to suggest trying to find new owners to replace the ones who have left so we are able to continually have new voices in the discussion and to be sure this is more than just a couple of voices in the room. Of course, I don't know the workings of the head office as is, but I do think clearly defining it would be logical in light of this uproar over what to the outside view is the owners stepping in and shutting down the head office and commissioner on their chosen decision.

I do not understand this undermine narrative being thrown around. I was called in to join the conversation by the group. I did not enter it on my own and shut down anything. I was told to give my opinion on the matter, so I did.

Like I said before, if Nour and Luke want to change things, they can. I am not the supreme being of this league, far from it. I'm hear to help, give advice when they ask, and just be a support for them. I don't make rules, I don't adjust rules, I don't tell them how to do things, nothing. The biggest power I have is helping to hire a new commissioner when one steps down.

You can ask any member commissioner or any member of HO, past or present, and they'll tell you I only ever speak when I'm asked about something or they want to know about something that happened in the league way back.

JayWhy, you've been around long enough, you can't honestly believe I'm throwing a so-called "power trip".