11-04-2021, 01:42 AMcaltroit_red_flames Wrote:

11-04-2021, 01:29 AMSDCore Wrote: Yeah, cal completely lol I know you were around for the whole thing.

You can't go by TPE tho, you should go by top in position.

Lowest ERA - Flame McDonald - RP - Flamethrower - 1100 tpe
2nd - Nolan Windsor - SP - Junkballer - 1700 tpe
3rd - Dasa Ni-Voss - SP - Junkballer - 1200 tpe
4th - McDougal - SP - Junkballer - 1800 tpe

Best WAR last two seasons - Freak
Colon this season
Beauregard last

Billy Grier - Highest TPE in the league was not in a single top or league leader category last season, because Control Freak is the worst of the pitching archs. TPE spread matters a lot less cause of the archs being imbalanced.

Even worse here is we would tie everyone into an even smaller box, so it would be harder at higher TPE, esp if someone decided to go with a lesser role, which there are in FHM.

Again though, I'm not saying something doesn't need to be done, it clearly does, just I don't love the ideas of archetypes.

Sounds like the pitching archs need some tweaks! On the other hand if you look at how Farnworth and Simms performed season by season and as max earner SPs from the same draft class on the same team, one flamethrower one junkballer you see this: Farnworth outperformed Simms until this season. Why? Because of differences in pitching style. Simms feeds off of the defense behind him due to ground ball percentage. Farnworth can perform better with a bad defense behind him because his game is based around getting strikeouts. Now that Simms has a defense behind him this season his ERA has improved beyond Farnworth's.

While the pitching archs aren't perfect, control freak is obviously garbage, I think flamethrower and junkballer have advantages that make them both useful. You can't make that argument on SHL. Every player needs defensive read and checking up asap. Shooting attributes don't matter. And there's no opportunity for changing that without archetypes.

I do understand what you are saying but those things are going to be hard to stop. I'm basically saying unless you mandate certain playing styles per team, you will see teams prioritize players with those stats to max their teams strengths, therefore you will run into the same issue, locking everyone into 1-2 styles/builds. I could be wrong, but experience on sim leagues tells me that people will do what will make their player best and if that's using a higher checking/d read build, well than that is that.

I don't think this will fix a meta, but push us further into one. I could be wrong, hell nobody has ever tried to use roles/tactics in a way that abuses a system to their advantage... right?