11-04-2021, 07:26 AMMemento Mori Wrote: When you create a player, there are 23 attributes you can increase, 22 of them limitlessly (shooting accuracy/range for defenceman/forwards). It's vital that you upgrade some of these right away. There's others where it's (seemingly) vital that you don't. Then you combine that with the fact that unlike other sports games physical attributes aren't vastly overpowered, and the attributes you should improve are even less obvious. I found and still do find SHL the most daunting from this perspective. When you consider how interconnected the sim league community is, this is a problem. I backed out of creating at least once before I actually did. In the end, some friends built my 155 build, my J GMs built my 350 and 425 builds, and my SHL GM built my current build. I don't want to hinder my team by not following the 'right' update path, so I'd rather they just build my player for me.

Wouldn't balanced archetypes fix this exact issue? You come in and think "I want to make an offensive defenseman", boom your arch is there and you know what to do.

@RomanesEuntDomus I don't see archetypes as limiting uniqueness. FHM has 22 minor roles for forwards and 14 for defensemen. If create archetypes for each role that that are balanced in a way that each each has a level of viability then we're going to have a ton of unique builds. I can go to HAM's roster on the other hand and I guarantee you there isn't a single player without at least 17 defensive read and checking. Doesn't matter if you wanted to be an offensive minded sniper, having that much "freedom" has forced them to build the meta player. It's not real freedom if we know what the meta build is. Again archetypes would allow us to tweak metas out of existence.