11-04-2021, 09:23 AMsköldpaddor Wrote:

11-04-2021, 09:14 AMJayWhy Wrote: Yes, it has been. I had to renegotiate trades for this exact same situation, as have others. We have all had situations where we lost assets over this, but suddenly this team gets off free.

I can absolutely see where you're coming from there and for sure it must be frustrating to see this unevenly enforced in a situation where you weren't granted the same allowances in the past. And I fully sympathize with the desire to have the trade renegotiated, but I have yet to see anybody suggest a real, feasible scenario in which that is even possible given the numerous things that would have to be untangled - do you un-draft the players that were drafted with those picks? do you just make the team that originally sent the picks acquire those players they might or might not have drafted? do you involve a third party and make Minnesota suffer for it too since they had a piece of the pie at that point?). I cannot come up with a renegotiation scenario in my head that makes any sense at all (although I realize that doesn't mean there isn't one).

If anything, I think I might have leaned towards a harsher punishment here in light of the fact that the trade was at that point all but impossible to renegotiate (in my eyes, I think that puts it on a different level than just the standard "trading a pick that you don't have").

I am just saying, it sounds to me like people want some kind of actual punishment to be levied against Toronto here, and I just don't see any grounds for that at all in the rulebook.

Personally am not someone who wants to see TOR punished since they punished themselves enough with this trade but just a renegotiation take place between these 2 teams here, which has been done in the past. In that renegotiation obviously TOR will hold most of the power considering the major asset they have given up. The most infuriating part for myself is that HO was made aware the retention of this trade was illegal prior to the draft. Also in case the teams can't come to a satisfactory renegotiation HO could be used as the arbitrator ( which has happened in the past once according to JY when an outside hire was made for GM and the new GM couldn't come to trade conclusion for his own player) and almost happened when JSS got the then SEA gig.