05-20-2022, 02:34 AMHenrik Wrote:

05-20-2022, 01:12 AMWaters Wrote: This is genuinely sad to read. I’m trying to put this in a way that isn’t overly harsh, but a lot of these quotes about why Hamilton is unbeatable are just not based in reality. They don’t sim from “dusk till dawn”, the GMs work during the day and play 5 hours straight of league with me and gooney at night. They don’t “force players to build a certain way”, players ask their GMs what they should put TPE in, which is extremely common practice. The script thing is genuinely close to izzy’s nefarious programmer in terms of wtf. I hope people stop quitting because of parity and recognize that, like grok put it, there’s a skill gap and they should introspectively figure out why it’s gotten so wide.

05-20-2022, 02:21 AMGwdjohnson Wrote:

Very troubling read if so many people believe this. The general lack of diversity amongst cup winners is very much a valid problem, but YEESH some of these takes

I think a lot of it comes down to frustration. If it isn't aimed at Hamilton, its going to be aimed at someone else. Like Grok mentioned, a lot of people just don't want to admit that someone else is doing a better job than them. I'll freely admit that the management in Hamilton did a much better job than I did during my tenure, and I think that have done probably the best job out of any team in the last 10 seasons or so. But it is very frustrating to watch. They keep making great trades, they keep finding ways to win. In the meantime I'm trying to get my team to win A SERIES in the playoffs with a good team, but no matter how much I test I simply fail to figure it out. Or I try to make a trade and then I see Hallsy post a trade for what I feel like is half the value I offered but got negged on. I dont know how he does it. At times, it absurd. And coming from someone who genuinely tried, its incredibly frustrating. I know its a cliche to say it but I don't think Hamilton should take it personally. The simple truth is we don't know what is going on in your room and we don't know what goes on in your war room, you guys do.

I also think a lot of it comes down to the balkanization that was mentioned. We are all split up into smaller cliques and I see a ton of Us vs Them sentiments. If we all shared a larger LR and interacted more on a daily basis I doubt we see this level of cynicism and dislike towards a team. We all know the internet (specifically, anonymity) breeds some pretty petty behaviours in most of us, that's nothing new. Its just a shame that we have seen it grow so much in our community as of late.

Yeah I wanna make it clear I totally understand people's frustrations with Hamilton's continued success and I would totally understand people's gripes being on a team that hasn't won yet while the same 4 teams are rotating cups. I do hope once we move to FHM8 it balances things out more and we see more variety in cup winners and overall playoff competitiveness.

That being said, I don't think frustration is an excuse for making up false narratives about a team to spread around. Frankly, I think the widespread narrative that things are hopeless because Hamilton are cheating/exploiting is much more damaging to the health of the league than anything Hamilton has actually done in the FHM era. Again I understand people's anger, but what good does it do for the site as a whole to spread lies, especially when it won't accomplish anything except make people feel discouraged and unwilling to care about the site? As someone who's just recently recreated and is now on an up and coming team in Philly I'd hope the site doesn't start declining because of people spreading shit that isn't true.

Sorry if this came off aggressively, I'm talking in general and not about you at all. I agree totally with what you said and I do think that general frustration and the monotonous cycle of the same cup winners is the root cause of this issue.