07-19-2024, 02:01 PMTheGreatToeJam Wrote: I agree with you but I also need to bring up the alternative - this person doesn't get picked up by a team and is essentially blacklisted by the SHL. The only outcome is furthering the divide and them not learning anything about or interacting with anyone in the LGBTQ community. The player you brought up was spoken to before signing and believe or not, people are complicated and might have a different opinion than yours. Without interacting with different communities and people of differing opinions nobody would change or progress. We don't judge, hockey is for *everyone* right? It doesn't just go one way. We can be frank about what is acceptable behaviour while not pushing people out.

Very simply, when someone decides to not oblige by the ideas of tolerance, they are not obligated to receive the same. The paradox of tolerance is not real, rooted in the idea that tolerance is some moral and not a social construct. It's treat to give second chances, or even third chances, but when someone is against hockey being for everyone, they no longer fall under "hockey is for everyone".

Quote:In my entire experience with Maine, both as player and coGM, there was a single incident in our LR with a newly drafted player and homophobia. I booted them from the LR immediately and they were dropped the next morning (only because it was late I hadn't heard back from HO about proper procedure).

Saying that we are anything but accepting is hard not to take personal.

I didn't say that Maine was at all a problem here. In the same way I'm not saying Ottawa was because they roster MacCabes. I said both teams have someone that has issues with pride, which is explicitly true based on the public post that was made. This is not a shot at a team, and never was delivered as such. It was largely in humor, and I wasn't making some grand reveal or sweeping accusations about the character of the organization or the people there.

Quote:Has there ever been an instance that someone from Maine's FO drags one of your teams in the forum, completely unprompted?

Actually, yes.

https://simulationhockey.com/showthread....pid3388429

It was also factually untrue, and Krash and I hashed that out.

Fun fact, as much as it seems like people affiliated with Maine believe this, I don't have issue with y'all. I'm not fully sure why you all need to come out swinging like this, I'm not trying to start shit and you guys would know if I was.