10-10-2024, 11:37 AMHabsFanFromOntario Wrote: I disagree that it has 0 to do with it, good teams win games but a good goalie is part of that team. It's not something on the same level as something like GSAA but it definitely isn't irrelevant.

Of course you need to have a goalie in net so it's more than 0, but whether it's the low TPE backup or the 2k+ starter doesn't make a huge difference overall. There have been enough discussions about this throughout the years. All I meant to say is that it shouldn't be used as a category to look at when you give out goalie awards, because the goalie has very little influence over wins (e.g. "this goalie had 50 wins and must clearly be better than this one with 20 wins").