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(This post was last modified: 04-24-2025, 10:34 AM by MrPresident. Edited 1 time in total. Edit Reason: Formatting to respect dark mode users )

04-23-2025, 10:35 PMsköldpaddor Wrote: I did actually consult HO, that wasn't sarcasm. They all laughed at me and told me to stop being a dumbass, because there's no rule in the rulebook that says we have to update it within X time of posting an update. It was pointed out that I was asking for unprecedented and unprescribed discipline, which is exactly what appeals told us (and we agreed, I do want to stress) that we couldn't do. Then we all agreed that was pretty goofy in itself that we don't have any commitment to doing that on a set timeline, and started working on wording to change that. So yes, we're working on that.

I don't know, man, I've just explained this in three different threads today while dodging strays from people left and right who've literally never bothered to have a human conversation with me, I'm just tired. I have written over 3000 words just in this thread and the initial punishment thread trying to have conversations with people, just to have other people ignore the things I've already said and continue to demand things in hostile, antagonistic ways, just to keep catching random accusations of being "lazy" and "untrustworthy" and then I come back and somebody has done three paragraphs of legwork telling me I need to be on probation, and that's when I hit the time of night where my brain goes "why the fuck do you spend 4 hours a day working on this shit?" So like, honestly, if the owners feel like I need to be on probation for not adding stuff to the rulebook on a completely unspecified timeline, they can issue that punishment. I'm too tired to argue anymore.
Despite probation being referred to in other places in the rulebook, it’s not referred to at all in the section I highlighted as being the applicable punishment for a violation of HO responsibilities. For GMs, a first offence results in probation with a second offence resulting in termination and a 3 season ban on holding a management position.

In this case, a first and second offence results in a write-up, while a third write-up results in a meeting to review job performance. Presumably a measure of that review could be probation or termination, but as written a write-up isn’t the same as probation.

It’s not a unprescribed discipline, perhaps unprecedented yes. 

Anyways, I can’t comment on why Appeals Committee chose to not address this issue - but I can’t believe, even for a split second, that taking 4.5 months to update a rulebook after announcing changes to that rulebook fits the spirit of HO’s responsibilities. That’s an egregious timeline to make an edit, given the rule change was written and posted - and directly caused this fiasco.

But alas, the point’s been made clear and argued and apparently that’s a totally fine and normal timeline and nobody should expect accountability because accountability isn’t required with a detailed timeline.

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TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by DrunkenTeddy - 04-23-2025, 01:38 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Caleb - 04-23-2025, 01:39 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by slothfacekilla - 04-23-2025, 01:39 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 01:41 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by hockeyfan - 04-23-2025, 01:44 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Gwdjohnson - 04-23-2025, 01:46 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sytarah - 04-23-2025, 01:57 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by oknom - 04-23-2025, 01:50 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by yosh - 04-23-2025, 01:52 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by taterswc - 04-23-2025, 01:53 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 01:55 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by taterswc - 04-23-2025, 02:41 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Frenchie - 04-23-2025, 03:25 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by taterswc - 04-23-2025, 04:35 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 04:42 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by taterswc - 04-23-2025, 05:15 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by WannabeFinn - 04-23-2025, 05:19 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by jackkmart - 04-23-2025, 05:25 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sytarah - 04-23-2025, 05:25 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by ByrdeMan - 04-23-2025, 05:59 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by taterswc - 04-23-2025, 05:34 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 05:23 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by taterswc - 04-23-2025, 05:31 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by hockeyiscool - 04-23-2025, 05:59 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by hockeyiscool - 04-23-2025, 07:11 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by jackkmart - 04-23-2025, 04:43 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Waters - 04-23-2025, 04:50 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by jackkmart - 04-23-2025, 05:09 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by MrPresident - 04-23-2025, 07:23 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by aleks - 04-23-2025, 07:34 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 07:49 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by MrPresident - 04-23-2025, 09:05 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 09:16 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by MrPresident - 04-23-2025, 10:16 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by hotdog - 04-23-2025, 10:18 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by MrPresident - 04-23-2025, 10:28 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 10:35 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by MrPresident - 04-24-2025, 12:19 AM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by DrunkenTeddy - 04-24-2025, 01:41 AM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by hockeyiscool - 04-24-2025, 02:44 AM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Nobody - 04-24-2025, 05:29 AM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by hockeyiscool - 04-24-2025, 05:40 AM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sytarah - 04-24-2025, 09:32 AM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by JURT - 04-24-2025, 02:59 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by jackkmart - 04-24-2025, 03:21 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by SchwarzNarr - 04-24-2025, 03:15 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by hotdog - 04-23-2025, 09:27 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by charlieconway - 04-23-2025, 09:59 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Frenchie - 04-23-2025, 09:10 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by MrPresident - 04-23-2025, 10:28 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by hockeyiscool - 04-23-2025, 04:41 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by AgentSmith630 - 04-23-2025, 01:58 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sytarah - 04-23-2025, 02:04 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Duff101 - 04-23-2025, 02:04 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sytarah - 04-23-2025, 02:10 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 02:12 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 02:10 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Duff101 - 04-23-2025, 02:20 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by 5ympathies - 04-23-2025, 02:22 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 02:24 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Rotti - 04-23-2025, 02:07 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Rotti - 04-23-2025, 02:08 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by trella - 04-23-2025, 02:10 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Aephino - 04-23-2025, 02:10 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Jepox - 04-23-2025, 02:22 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by jackkmart - 04-23-2025, 02:29 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by trella - 04-23-2025, 02:30 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sytarah - 04-23-2025, 02:35 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Caleb - 04-23-2025, 02:40 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 02:43 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sytarah - 04-23-2025, 02:48 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Katth - 04-23-2025, 04:30 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by JURT - 04-23-2025, 04:48 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Seany148 - 04-23-2025, 03:00 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Sizz - 04-23-2025, 04:04 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by hockeyiscool - 04-23-2025, 05:40 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sköldpaddor - 04-23-2025, 05:56 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by hockeyiscool - 04-23-2025, 05:57 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Jobin - 04-23-2025, 06:13 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by notorioustig - 04-23-2025, 07:52 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by taterswc - 04-24-2025, 10:14 AM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by ByrdeMan - 04-23-2025, 05:58 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Chris - 04-23-2025, 06:11 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Symmetrik - 04-23-2025, 09:40 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Bfine - 04-23-2025, 09:52 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Symmetrik - 04-23-2025, 10:37 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by DrunkenTeddy - 04-24-2025, 09:42 AM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by Jobin - 04-24-2025, 02:46 PM
RE: TBB Illegal Roster Appeal - by sytarah - 04-24-2025, 04:20 PM



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