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S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters
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05-08-2021, 05:38 PMFuzzSHL Wrote:
05-08-2021, 05:16 PMraymond3000 Wrote: Directly using giveaway/takeaway ratios to compare players on Buffalo and Tampa is ridiculous. There isn't a single forward on any of the Great Lakes teams with a positive GA/TA ratio. Buffalo has the puck 2/3rds of the time when Luffy's on the ice while the Tampa players only have the puck half the time, so of course Fitted and Fiddler would have more takeaways and less giveaways. It would be more accurate to adjust those numbers for possession, but that still ignores factors such as centres generally having more takeaways.

I also have my doubts about using relative corsi to determine whether Luffy is making his team better or not, especially when he's only at -1%. That difference could easily be explained by the quality of competition he faces from playing on the top line. And once again, you can't directly compare relative corsis between teams since Buffalo's roster is so much stronger than Tampa's. If you put Luffy on Tampa, there's no doubt in my mind that he would be posting a positive relative corsi.

That being said, I haven't been following this season closely enough to say if Luffy was snubbed or not. And it's definitely nice to seem all the teams represented in the all-star game, and while some of the players definitely aren't among the actual best players in the league, it's probably better for the SHL as a whole to generate more interest for what's ultimately a fun but not all that meaningful midseason event.

I do understand where you’re coming from with the points you’re making. My main issue though is that out of nowhere I got bombarded in DMs saying that it was this whole big committee conspiracy to specifically fuck Luffy out of a spot on the All Star Roster. Is my ideology perfect? No. That’s why there’s a committee to vote on it. My take above isn’t directly what the committee used to make their voting decisions. Hell, I haven’t been able to make the rounds with the committee yet to talk about how we should look at changing voting strategies from “let’s take the top point scorers” to something different yet, so even if I wanted to make the committee vote a certain way (which I don’t), I haven’t had that ability yet.

But, for future reference, accusing me of being so low as to take personal feelings into account to make sure your player is left off any roster or All-League team is not the way to go about voicing your frustrations. I got this position due in part by my history on this site of being objective in this sort of position, I’m not about to go fucking deserving people over just because I feel like it.

And to be clear...I had zero issue with Luffy before today, and I still don’t. Him and I have played Dota and Rocket League together before, he was the person I talked to the most from our draft class when we were in juniors. If I was going to take out a personal vendetta on anyone, it would not be him.

Also +1 on this. I doubt that this was something personal. It's unfortunate that the mob mentality always has to take over on this fucking site.

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S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by FuzzSHL - 05-08-2021, 03:16 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Lime - 05-08-2021, 04:00 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by gurbs - 05-08-2021, 03:31 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by juniped - 05-08-2021, 03:46 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Jorec - 05-08-2021, 03:33 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by bluesfan55 - 05-08-2021, 03:35 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by trella - 05-08-2021, 03:38 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by trella - 05-08-2021, 03:48 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by trella - 05-08-2021, 03:57 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by trella - 05-08-2021, 04:09 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by trella - 05-08-2021, 04:14 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by trella - 05-08-2021, 04:20 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Mutedfaith - 05-08-2021, 04:14 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by trella - 05-08-2021, 04:15 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by FuzzSHL - 05-08-2021, 04:21 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by FuzzSHL - 05-08-2021, 05:38 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Samsung virtual assistant - 05-08-2021, 07:02 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by JNH - 05-08-2021, 07:32 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by EricNCSU - 05-10-2021, 12:28 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by sve7en - 05-10-2021, 12:49 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by EricNCSU - 05-10-2021, 01:56 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by SDCore - 05-10-2021, 12:57 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Mutedfaith - 05-08-2021, 03:53 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by ml002 - 05-08-2021, 04:17 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by sve7en - 05-08-2021, 04:25 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Wally - 05-09-2021, 10:17 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Buster - 05-08-2021, 04:20 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by SFresh3 - 05-08-2021, 04:49 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Keygan - 05-08-2021, 05:11 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Rotti - 05-08-2021, 05:03 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by juniped - 05-09-2021, 10:45 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Hallsy - 05-08-2021, 05:16 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Rotti - 05-08-2021, 05:24 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by TheWoZy - 05-08-2021, 09:07 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by fishy - 05-09-2021, 02:00 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by fishy - 05-09-2021, 02:12 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by sve7en - 05-08-2021, 07:29 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by luke - 05-08-2021, 07:39 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by JNH - 05-08-2021, 07:40 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by luke - 05-08-2021, 08:10 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by luke - 05-09-2021, 10:40 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Naosu - 05-08-2021, 08:38 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Katth - 05-09-2021, 07:33 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by TheWoZy - 05-08-2021, 09:08 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by honkerrs - 05-09-2021, 01:25 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by karey - 05-09-2021, 02:26 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by leviadan - 05-09-2021, 02:33 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by fishy - 05-09-2021, 02:45 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by leviadan - 05-09-2021, 03:04 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by fishy - 05-09-2021, 03:13 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by leviadan - 05-09-2021, 03:20 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Mutedfaith - 05-09-2021, 06:53 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Katth - 05-09-2021, 07:36 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Katth - 05-09-2021, 07:35 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by leviadan - 06-02-2021, 03:26 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by fishy - 06-02-2021, 03:27 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by ByrdeMan - 06-02-2021, 03:40 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by dankoa - 05-09-2021, 07:38 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Kalakar - 05-09-2021, 08:24 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by bk1689 - 05-09-2021, 08:51 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by trella - 05-09-2021, 10:37 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by karey - 05-09-2021, 07:20 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Sean - 05-09-2021, 11:04 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by trella - 05-09-2021, 11:10 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Mayuu - 05-09-2021, 11:45 AM
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RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Ragnar - 05-09-2021, 11:59 AM
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RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Ragnar - 05-09-2021, 12:26 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Fitted2106 - 05-09-2021, 12:31 PM
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RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Sean - 05-09-2021, 01:30 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Sean - 05-09-2021, 01:30 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Mayuu - 05-09-2021, 01:44 PM
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RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by TheWoZy - 05-09-2021, 03:00 PM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by Mutedfaith - 05-10-2021, 08:10 AM
RE: S59 SHL All-Star Game Rosters - by sve7en - 05-14-2021, 10:12 AM
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