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Segi · 06-30-2020, 02:23 PM

06-30-2020, 02:03 PMBasedMinkus Wrote:
06-30-2020, 01:54 PMjfisherr Wrote: Sorry but you're wrong. Let's say the cap is 4 seasons of updates, and there's 8 weeks of updating per season. That's 32 possible updates as Segi said above. Let's say there's 5 things claimable per week (AC, Training, PT, WFT, 3on3). That's up to 160 links that an Updater would have to check in order to make sure that the PT task a user is trying to claim from 4 seasons prior hasn't been claimed before.

You say if we enforce requiring the season and point task in each claim itl'l ease this issue as it'll promote veteran user retention, but how about for all the new creates that consistently have their updates rejected over simple errors such as linking the wrong PT?

What about for the people who have been updating consistently? Do you expect the Updating team to go back and edit everyone's previous updates to ensure they have the proper titles or are we back to square one where the updaters have to go through up to 160 links in order to make sure the new rule is being followed? (I get this is ridiculous but raising the cap from 2 to 4 seasons is also ridiculous).

I get what you're saying but 8 weeks, which is the current cap, is more than enough to post one update in order to not lose out on TPE lol.

There is no need to to extend this cap any further.

I mean I am not wrong because there isn't a right or wrong answer for this.

In regards to the people who have been updating consistently. My argument to implement this would be for the future and not retroactively allow this to happen before the rule was in place. So if the rule was set in S56, then it really wouldn't become a thing until S59.

You could even put a cap on things you can claim that are outdated.

My whole thing is retention or getting people back so the league can alway improve.

Being even more pedantic on how updates have to look like probably wouldn't be great for user retention either though. You can't please everybody and ArGar's case honestly doesn't happen too often. People coming back after 2 or 3 seasons of inactivity, most often just recreate and lose out on any unclaimed tpe anyway.

ml002 · 06-30-2020, 02:30 PM

06-30-2020, 01:31 PMBasedMinkus Wrote: I definitely believe that a longer cap for claiming TPE isn't difficult. Yes I understand you have to look over someones updates to see if they did in fact just miss claiming that specific PT but if we enforced a strict way of doing the updates (ie having which season and what # the point task is (S54 PT 1)) it would allow something like this to happen.

As someone that updated for a long time, just achieving this is like herding cats. The number of ppl on this site incapable of putting together an easily coherent update is probably about half of it's active population. The number of times I have tips or linked to the update assistant, only for that person to ignore it and continue to update "their way" is beyond frustrating. If you skip someone for having a bad update, they get upset and you are then the bad guy cause "it's your job to figure it out"

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Snoopdogg · 06-30-2020, 03:23 PM

Quote:luketd Wrote:

You can claim up to 2 seasons ago worth of tpe iirc

That is even too long!

wumaduce · 06-30-2020, 03:24 PM

06-30-2020, 02:30 PMml002 Wrote:
06-30-2020, 01:31 PMBasedMinkus Wrote: I definitely believe that a longer cap for claiming TPE isn't difficult. Yes I understand you have to look over someones updates to see if they did in fact just miss claiming that specific PT but if we enforced a strict way of doing the updates (ie having which season and what # the point task is (S54 PT 1)) it would allow something like this to happen.

As someone that updated for a long time, just achieving this is like herding cats. The number of ppl on this site incapable of putting together an easily coherent update is probably about half of it's active population. The number of times I have tips or linked to the update assistant, only for that person to ignore it and continue to update "their way" is beyond frustrating. If you skip someone for having a bad update, they get upset and you are then the bad guy cause "it's your job to figure it out"

This is very accurate. As someone who performed audits for a short time, I can tell you the fact that we don't have a standard update format makes things a pain in the ass for updaters. I remember one user who couldn't put together consistent update formats for a couple of pages. We won't even get into the Capped/Uncapped thing.

Baelor Swift · 06-30-2020, 04:34 PM

06-30-2020, 10:22 AMArGarBarGar Wrote: I think it is dumb that players who are not under regression can't claim PTs from more than a couple seasons ago.

There is no advantage for someone not under regression not claiming TPE immediately, so I do not see the point in punishing people for not claiming the TPE until later.

Except there is an advantage when it comes to salary tiers and waiting to claim TPE in order to circumvent the cap.

Also, when you back claim half a year or so back, now the updater needs to waste time digging back even further through your update thread to be sure you haven't claimed it already.

TnlAstatine · 06-30-2020, 07:24 PM

arg returns to the league with some fire

**Lime** · 06-30-2020, 09:39 PM

Needing to claim tpe from like 5 seasons ago is such a fringe case that basically you just need to suck it up

Also its annoying that you want updaters to spend an extra 15 minutes combing through your entire update thread because you can't be arsed to spend 2 minutes claiming

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