Why hasn't anyone taken advantage of this yet? Aren't there some 'rivalries' between SHL teams already? You could take each rivalry game and turn it into a mid-season PBP every time those teams play one another, could spark some excitement through the 20-40 game span of dull-ness.
As others have said, if this is implemented, we need to restructure the entire point earning and regression system, which will ultimately disenfranchise non super actives as training money may become even more valuable, unless prices are also changed. A change also will make it more difficult to compare past and present players, creating an entirely new era. It also will not shorten off-seasons and will not make the regular season more interesting.
So what do we do? Stop looking for the easy solution and find things that will work. Let's figure out how we can condense the off-seasons. Let's try to actually do something with rivalry games and use input from the league to determine which teams are rivals - perhaps surveys sent out to all SHL players every few seasons. But we don't have to fuck with record keeping and the point earning structure to solve these issues.
08-24-2018, 01:08 PMWannabeFinn Wrote: Ah yes, the veteran meme player. A surefire bet for maybe 400 TPE
Quote:Originally posted by JayWhy@Dec 28 2016, 04:19 PM
Hell, the typical worst period of activity that I see is around 20-40 games. That middle of the season is hell because you have one PT, you can do media but few do that, and that's about it. That's when people start disappearing because they're just flat out bored as hell. With this, we'd elongate that period, make it 30-60 that they're feeling bored and that's a good two weeks of it rather than one week.
Yes to all of this. Very well put JY... As a GM of a bottom team at the moment or not, minimizing that 20 to 40 game black hole is essential to retention. Not making it even longer.
Going by the responses in this thread there isn't much of a point in implementing longer seasons right now since there is no clear majority for it and some good points against it were brought up. But then what would you guys suggest as alternative methods to fix the season-to-offseason ratio? Because this is still a very real problem as Pandar pointed out, a big chunk of the league spends more than 50% of their time here without their player seeing any game action and I doubt we can make the off-season any shorter than 1-2 weeks...
Quote:Originally posted by RomanesEuntDomus@Dec 29 2016, 10:16 AM Going by the responses in this thread there isn't much of a point in implementing longer seasons right now since there is no clear majority for it and some good points against it were brought up. But then what would you guys suggest as alternative methods to fix the season-to-offseason ratio? Because this is still a very real problem as Pandar pointed out, a big chunk of the league spends more than 50% of their time here without their player seeing any game action and I doubt we can make the off-season any shorter than 1-2 weeks...
I'm not sure why we need a long offseason.
Draft should only be a couple days after the finals. Free agency is a few days where GMs can have rosters completed by the last day. That's one week.
Regression/awards/etc can be done in that week and a half, then we can get right into the preseason. Preseason happened 17 days after the off-season was announced. It could be slightly trimmed to make it 14.
Give more PTs and maybe have an off-season event or two to participate in, and you are golden.
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The season to offseason ratio is a huge problem in this league and essentially the main reason I've had about three different bouts of inactivity. Maybe I'm too used to other leagues now but SBA as an example does a full 82-game schedule with just one full week of playoff action with live sims and one week of offseason. Playoffs and offseason over there are the two most populous weeks on the site since theirs playoff hype followed by a short-lived pre-season hype. Granted we don't require large recruitment for our draft classes but you get the point.
I'm in favour of a longer season is what I'm saying and if it means increasing the schedule that's fine. Sure we then have to create another new 'era' since GP per season vastly go up. Whatever, longer season is better imo
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The longer the season is, the longer people have to wait around when their player/team is sucking it up, and the higher average TPE earning will end up, leading to TPE inflation.
Offseason will still feel long and boring.
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Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@Dec 29 2016, 10:46 AM The longer the season is, the longer people have to wait around when their player/team is sucking it up, and the higher average TPE earning will end up, leading to TPE inflation.
Offseason will still feel long and boring.
Anyone who goes inactive because they're discouraged by their player/team sucking is probably going inactive anyways let's be honest.
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Past Player: RW - David Benson [Seattle Riot/First Overall Scrub]
Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@Dec 29 2016, 04:35 PM
I'm not sure why we need a long offseason.
Draft should only be a couple days after the finals. Free agency is a few days where GMs can have rosters completed by the last day. That's one week.
Regression/awards/etc can be done in that week and a half, then we can get right into the preseason. Preseason happened 17 days after the off-season was announced. It could be slightly trimmed to make it 14.
Give more PTs and maybe have an off-season event or two to participate in, and you are golden.
A two-week off-season doesn't fix the problem, it's basically what we have already and all attempts to cut it shorter even further have failed in the past, A 10-14 day off-season is the best case scenario imho, of course I would like it to be shorter too but I doubt it's ever gonna happen.
I think an ideal spread would be a 6 week season with a somewhat bigger emphasis on the regular season (4-5 week regular, 1-2 week playoffs) followed by a 1-2 week off-season. With the 3.5 week regular we have at the moment there is just too much downtime overall for everyone who doesn't go deep in the playoffs.
Quote:Originally posted by GoodLeftUndone@Dec 29 2016, 11:02 AM
Anyone who goes inactive because they're discouraged by their player/team sucking is probably going inactive anyways let's be honest.
Anyone who goes inactive because the offseason is a few days too long is probably going inactive anyways let's be honest.
Consecutive seasons where a team is at the bottom and the season is 80 games long is not going to be fun for anyone. Couple that with constantly playing the same teams over and over (see the points made about the GOMHL and it being a downside) and the season will feel less enjoyable.
The regular season would potentially be a drag for those in the playoffs as well.
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Quote:Originally posted by RomanesEuntDomus@Dec 29 2016, 11:44 AM
A two-week off-season doesn't fix the problem, it's basically what we have already and all attempts to cut it shorter even further have failed in the past, A 10-14 day off-season is the best case scenario imho, of course I would like it to be shorter too but I doubt it's ever gonna happen.
I think an ideal spread would be a 6 week season with a somewhat bigger emphasis on the regular season (4-5 week regular, 1-2 week playoffs) followed by a 1-2 week off-season. With the 3.5 week regular we have at the moment there is just too much downtime overall for everyone who doesn't go deep in the playoffs.
I don't want to increase the potential for single game sims. Those are terribly boring. I also don't see how extending the regular season a few days to a week really keeps people from being bored during the offseason.
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