he'll get there
artermis,Feb 2 2017, 04:11 PM Wrote: 9gag pretty lit tho
Boomcheck Registered
S10 Challenge Cup Champion
We doing the Hall of Fame or Hall of Very Good? I could look at the hall and point out a guy or two and go 'Why is he in there?'
22 seasons as a very good player I would expect him to be pretty high up there in overall points produced/playoff leader boards and whatnot. 22 seasons.
Here's a rough idea of the awards these guys have in major awards voted on by the committee. I don't take this as the gospel or anything, there can be mistakes made in these.
Esa: None
Eriksson: League MVP/Playoff MVP
Garbznzo: League MVP/Stevensx5
Joe McK: League MVPx2/Darx2
Kane: League MVPx2/Darx2/Playoff MVP
D. Winter: None
Hallsy's forward: Has some MVPs and Dars, awards committee should change the jordan halls to taylor mcdavid since he's the same person and just changed names
LPF: None
Sarantez: None
Lloren: None
Randleman: League MVPX2/Darx2
Chris McZ: League MVP/Darx2
Adam Kylrad: Dar
There's clearly tiers within the list you even detailed and Pedersen is not in the upper echelon.
Winter and LFP have lead the league in statistical categories before I'm not a fan of Flacko and there's a reason he wasn't getting many awards despite leading the league in a bunch of categories.
Has anyone ever looked at Pedersen and went 'damn that guy is the best player at his position'
Pedersen top 10 scoring finishes:
S33 (T5)
Think that's it.
He'll have his # retired in Calgary, but it shouldn't be a shock that he didn't get in first ballot.
And I don't think he'll get into the Hall of Fame for being great, he'll get in for being very good over a long period of time. There are guys like Pedersen in the hall that have been very good over an extended period of time and I believe he will join them. Don't get me wrong, what Pedersen did isn't easy. Lots of one hit wonders that shouldn't be considered as good as Pedersen because they couldn't maintain any decent consistency.
The real HOF debate is goaltending. What gets them in?
Cameron Carter II || LW/C || HOF INDUCTEE (via cuddles)
Projected Career TPE: 500-900
Number: #9, #4, #8
S45 IIHF Silver Medal, S48 IIHF Silver Medal, S50 IIHF Gold Medal
S46: 24 Goals (T-9), 192 Hits (4th)
Cole Carter || Örebro HK Youth || LW
Youth Player
Tomen Coach
back since like 2 IRL years
Personally. Pedersen should get in but as others have stated his case isn't that great or a slam dunk first ballot guy. He will probably get in with his 3rd or 4th ballot depending on the strength of the eligible players but as other said he was very consistent but never had great seasons and therefore never awards and I don't even know how many All star appearances for example. He will be purely a guy that gets in thanks to consistency. One thing is for sure he won't get in next season because of Nuck,Kane and LFP & Clayton. It's also not that you could say well he was a physical player because he wasn't one for a long time.
Thank you all for the amazing sigs & player cards
S31 Eduard Selich || F || Buffalo Stampede || Peak: 1252
Name: Eduard Selich
Hometown: Fulda, Germany
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 195 lbs
Number: 19
Age: 29
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Regular Season Career Statistics:
SMJHL:
S30 PGF | GP 50 | G 15 | A 12 | P 27 | -3 | PIM 8 | HIT 38 | SB 5 |
S31 PGF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 20 | P 41 | -6 | PIM 18 | HIT 42 | SB 20 |
SHL:
S32 BUF | GP 50 | G 17 | A 19 | P 36 | +11 | PIM 6 | HIT 54 | SB 13 |
S33 BUF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 25 | P 46 | +14 | PIM 12 | HIT 44 | SB 21 |
S34 BUF | GP 50 | G 28 | A 35 | P 63 | +23 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 22 |
S35 BUF | GP 50 | G 17 | A 17 | P 34 | -6 | PIM 12 | HIT 13 | SB 17 |
S36 BUF | GP 50 | G 23 | A 24 | P 47 | +3 | PIM 2 | HIT 37 | SB 15 |
S37 BUF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 27 | P 48 | +9 | PIM 25 | HIT 74 | SB 15 |
S38 BUF | GP 50 | G 28 | A 27 | P 55 | +4 | PIM 44 | HIT 42 | SB 12 |
S39 BUF | GP 50 | G 18 | A 21 | P 39 | +1 | PIM 10 | HIT 48 | SB 23 |
S40 BUF | GP 50 | G 7 | A 15 | P 22 | -26 | PIM 9 | HIT 48 | SB 11 |
S41 BUF | GP 50 | G 18 | A 17 | P 35 | +10 | PIM 2 | HIT 5 | SB 11 |
S42 BUF | GP 50 | G 20 | A 21 | P 41 | +10 | PIM 0 | HIT 5 | SB 10 |
S43 SEA | GP 50 | G 19 | A 19 | P 38 | +8 | PIM 12 | HIT 47 | SB 7 |
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Playoff Career Statistic:
SMJHL:
S30 PGF | GP 17 | G 8 | A 13 | P 21 | +7 | PIM 2 | HIT 10 | SB 3 |
S31 PGF | GP 4 | G 0 | A 1 | P 1 | -5 | PIM 0 | HIT 4 | SB 2 |
SHL:
S32 BUF | Did not qualify
S33 BUF | GP 5 | G 4 | A 1 | P 5 | +1 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S34 BUF | Did not qualify
S35 BUF | GP 4 | G 2 | A 2 | P 4 | -3 | PIM 0 | HIT 5 | SB 1 |
S36 BUF | GP 7 | G 6 | A 2 | P 8 | +6 | PIM 2 | HIT 10 | SB 1 |
S37 BUF | GP 7 | G 2 | A 0 | P 2 | -3 | PIM 0 | HIT 12 | SB 0 |
S38 BUF | Did not qualify
S39 BUF | Did not qualify
S40 BUF | Did not qualify
S41 BUF | GP 7 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | -4 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 2 |
S41 BUF | GP 5 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | -7 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S43 SEA | GP 6 | G 3 | A 0 | P 3 | -3 | PIM 4 | HIT 7 | SB 2 |
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IIHF Round Robin Career Statistic:
S30 GER | GP 10 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -4 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 0 |
S31 GER | GP 10 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +2 | PIM 2 | HIT 4 | SB 1 |
S32 GER | GP 10 | G 5 | A 4 | P 9 | +4 | PIM 0 | HIT 2 | SB 3 |
S33 GER | GP 10 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +4 | PIM 2 | HIT 4 | SB 2 |
S41 GER | GP 10 | G 4 | A 1 | P 5 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 1 |
S42 GER | GP 10 | G 1 | A 2 | P 3 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 9 | SB 1 |
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IIHF Medal Round Career Statistic:
S30 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | +0 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S31 GER | GP 3 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 |
S32 GER | GP 3 | G 1 | A 2 | P 3 | +4 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S33 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -1 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 |
S41 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -1 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
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Transactions:
S30 | Drafted #20 in the SMJHL Entry Draft by the Prince George Firebirds
S30 | Signed a 1yr/1.5M deal with Prince George Firebirds
S31 | Drafted #2 in the SHL Entry Draft by the Buffalo Stampede
S31 | Signed a 2yr/2M deal with Buffalo Stampede
S32 | Signed an 23yr/23M extension with Buffalo Stampede
S34 | Contract Adjustment: 3yr/9M deal with Buffalo Stampede
S41 | Signed an 1yr/3M extension with Buffalo Stampede
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Noteable events:
S30 | Voted Alternate Captain of Prince George Firebirds
S30 | Organized WJC
S30 | Got the call to play for Team Germany
S30 | Won Zach Miller Trophy (Most Dedicated)
S30 | Won Ron Bolt Trophy (Most Sportsmanlike)
S30 | Won Ronan O'Keefe Trophy (Playoff Points Leader)
S30 | Voted S30 PGF Team MVP
S31 | Voted Captain of Prince George Firebirds
S31 | Named Germany Federation Head and won the Silver Medal
S31 | Nominated for Brandon Holmes Trophy (Top Defensive Forward)
S31 | Nominated for Zach Miller Trophy ( Most Dedicated)
S32 | Voted Alternate Captain of Buffalo Stampede
S32 | Nominated for the Ryan Jesster Trophy ( ROTY)
S32 | Named to the SHL All-Rookie Team
S32 | won the Gold Medal with team Germany
S33 | Named Buffalo Stampede Co-GM
S33 | Damien Littleton Trophy Nominee
S33 | Won Lance Uppercut Award
S34 | Named 1st Team All-Star in the SHL
S34 | Damien Littleton Trophy Nominee
S34 | Aidan Richan Trophy Nominee
S42 | Named Buffalo Stampede Co-GM
Otto Selich||GM||GER S31-S34(26-9-2)||BUF(S33-S34,S42-)||1 Gold & 2x Silver
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Round Robin Career Statistics:
S31 GER | 6-4-0 | 18 points | #1 seed Group A
S32 GER | 8-1-1 | 22 points | #1 seed Group A
S33 GER | 7-3-0 | 21 points | #1 seed Group A
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Medal Round Career Statistics:
S31 GER | 2-1-0 | Silver medal | lost to USA in the Gold medal game
S32 GER | 3-0-0 | won Gold Medal
S33 GER | 0-0-1 | lost in Quarterfinals to Finland
S45 Alexander Selich || D || || Colorado Raptors || Peak: 2134
Name: Alexander Selich
Hometown: Fulda, Germany
Height: 6'10"
Weight: 280 lbs
Number: 19
Age: 18
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Regular Season Career Statistics:
SMJHL:
S43 KEL | GP 9 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | 1 | PIM 0 | HIT 4 | SB 0 |
S44 COL | GP 50 | G 12 | A 14 | P 26 | 8 | PIM 4 | HIT 23 | SB 11 |
S45 COL | GP 50 | G 17 | A 16 | P 33 | 2 | PIM 12 | HIT 35 | SB 7 |
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Playoff Career Statistic:
SMJHL:
S43 KEL | GP 6 | G 1 | A 0 | P 1 | 0 | PIM 2 | HIT 2 | SB 0 |
S44 COL | GP 16 | G 7 | A 5 | P 12 | +3 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 6 |
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IIHF Round Robin Career Statistic:
S43 GER | GP 14 | G 0 | A 3 | P 3 | 2 | PIM 4 | HIT 7 | SB 0 |
S44 GER | GP 14 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | -10 | PIM 8 | HIT 7 | SB 4 |
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IIHF Medal Round Career Statistic:
S43 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | +0 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 |
S44 GER | GP 2 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +1 | PIM 2 | HIT 2 | SB 0 |
Transactions:
S44 | Drafted #1 in the SMJHL Entry Draft by the Colorado Raptors
S44 | Signed a 1yr/3M deal with Colorado Raptors
S45 | Drafted #22 in the SHL Entry Draft by the Buffalo Stampede
S45 | Signed a 3yr/1M deal with Buffalo Stampede
Noteable events:
3. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 5 (Maximilian Wachter, Alexis Metzler) at 16:25
5. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 6 (Steven Stamkos Jr., Brynjar Tusk) at 19:48
8. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 7 (Brynjar Tusk, Alexis Metzler) at 13:55
9. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 8 (Anton Fedorov, Mikelis Grundmanis) at 15:12
10. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 9 (Dickie Pecker) at 19:43 (Empty Net)
12-26-2018, 12:10 PM .bojo Wrote: I mean... Izzy does have a point? Almost everyone else in that screenshot is HOF, and he has a bunch of championships to back it up. His rookie season he had 30 points, and from s23-s37 had no less than 40 points a season, including four over 50 with one at 59. In his 22 seasons, he had 4 under 30 points within the tail end of the career.
Not to crap on Nereus, who I'm not sure if his entry was the first ballot or not, but I'd think that kind of consistency is better than Nereus's one really good season in s34.
+1
[S58] #A-Rye Izzy || D || CGY || #Killowna || 1438 TPE
Born: S39
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 188 lbs
Number: 86
Position: Hybrid Defender
Birth Place: Vienna, Austria
Residence: Toronto, Canada
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SHL Regular Season Statistics:
S60| CGY | GP 66| G: 11| A: 15| P: 26| H: 57 | BK: 85| +15 | PPP: 00
S61| CGY | GP 66| G: 05| A: 15| P: 20| H: 64 | BK: 96| +06 | PPP: 00
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SMJHL Regular Season Statistics:
S57| KEL| GP 66| G: 05| A: 13| P: 18| H: 57| BK: 27| -01| PPP: 00
S58| KEL| GP 63| G: 08| A: 23| P: 31| H: 51| BK: 30| +20| PPP: 02
S59| KEL| GP 66| G: 13| A: 22| P: 35| H: 74| BK: 64| +30| PPP: 01
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SMJHL Post Season Statistics:
S57| KEL| GP 07| G: 00| A: 00| P: 00| H: 03| BK: 02| -01| PPP: 00
S58| KEL| GP 12| G: 01| A: 04| P: 05| H: 05| BK: 04| -04| PPP: 00
S59| KEL| GP 17| G: 06| A: 05| P: 11| H: 22| BK: 10| +11| PPP: 01
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Drafts:
S34 - SMJHL: Drafted 5th overall by Kelowna
S35 - SHL: Auto Drafted by Calgary
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Timeline:
S57 - Youngest player drafted in league history.
S58 - Named Alternate Captain of the Kelowna Knights
S58 - Won Silver Medal with DACH in the WJC
S59 - Named Captain of the Kelowna Knights
S59 - Won Gold Medal with DACH in the WJC
S59 - Kelowna wins 4-Star Cup Championship
Mike Izzy || S34-55 || HOF || TPE Max: 2207 || Cups: 3
Alias: the Augment
Born: 9/4/1995
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 228 lbs
Number: 19
Birth Place: Whitby, Ontario
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SHL Regular Season Statistics:
S55| CGY| GP 50| G: 14| A: 12| P: 26| H: 154| BK: 28| +23| SHT: 149
S54| CGY| GP 50| G: 21| A: 19| P: 40| H: 108| BK: 28| -05 | SHT: 144
S53| CGY| GP 50| G: 17| A: 23| P: 40| H: 185| BK: 13| +11| SHT: 152
S52| CGY| GP 50| G: 17| A: 21| P: 38| H: 196| BK: 19| +11| SHT: 199
S51| CGY| GP 50| G: 14| A: 23| P: 37| H: 227| BK: 18| -05| SHT: 166
S50| CGY| GP 50| G: 18| A: 33| P: 51| H: 186| BK: 20| +16| SHT: 185
S49| CGY| GP 50| G: 29| A: 24| P: 53| H: 174| BK: 11| +24| SHT: 177
S48| CGY| GP 50| G: 21| A: 29| P: 50| H: 220| BK: 15| +10| SHT: 196
S47| CGY| GP 50| G: 20| A: 30| P: 50| H: 208| BK: 26| +18| SHT: 193
S46| CGY| GP 50| G: 22| A: 28| P: 50| H: 218| BK: 19| +05| SHT: 252
S45| CGY| GP 50| G: 15| A: 26| P: 41| H: 216| BK: 14| -03| SHT: 216
S44| CGY| GP 50| G: 19| A: 33| P: 52| H: 180| BK: 10| +15| SHT: 206
S43| CGY| GP 50| G: 21| A: 27| P: 48| H: 198| BK: 10| +04| SHT: 214
S42| CGY| GP 50| G: 26| A: 26| P: 52| H: 176| BK: 17| +11| SHT: 213
S41| CGY| GP 50| G: 20| A: 25| P: 45| H: 190| BK: 13| - 05| SHT: 208
S40| CGY| GP 50| G: 20| A: 20| P: 40| H: 200| BK: 16| +10| SHT: 193
S39| CGY| GP 50| G: 24| A: 24| P: 48| H: 209| BK: 05| +23| SHT: 178
S38| CGY| GP 50| G: 15| A: 16| P: 31| H: 192| BK: 07| +09| SHT: 124
S37| CGY| GP 50| G: 07| A: 09| P: 16| H: 149| BK: 04| +06| SHT: 071
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SHL Playoff Statistics:
S37| CGY| GP 07| G: 00| A: 00| P: 00| H: 17|: -07| SHT: 40| PIM: 02
S38| CGY| GP 18| G: 06| A: 01| P: 07| H: 65|: -04| SHT: 67| PIM: 28
S39| CGY| GP 04| G: 00| A: 00| P: 00| H: 11|: -04| SHT: 08| PIM: 06
S40| CGY| GP 19| G: 06| A: 11| P: 17| H: 50|: +02|SHT: 37| PIM: 12
S41| CGY| GP 06| G: 01| A: 03| P: 04| H: 32|: -04| SHT: 12| PIM: 16
S42| CGY| GP 14| G: 14| A: 10| P: 24| H: 70|: +11|SHT: 85| PIM: 19
S43| CGY| GP 06| G: 02| A: 00| P: 02| H: 18|: +01|SHT: 24| PIM: 00
S44| CGY| GP 05| G: 01| A: 03| P: 04| H: 21|: -02|SHT: 23| PIM: 04
S46| CGY| GP 10| G: 06| A: 06| P: 12| H: 49|: +03|SHT: 35| PIM: 27
S47| CGY| GP 10| G: 06| A: 06| P: 12| H: 49|: +03|SHT: 35| PIM: 27
S48| CGY| GP 11| G: 04| A: 06| P: 10| H: 47|: +01|SHT: 55| PIM: 10
S49| CGY| GP 07| G: 03| A: 06| P: 09| H: 29| : -01| SHT: 32| PIM: 04
S50| CGY| GP 20| G: 16| A: 16| P: 32| H: 68| :+21| SHT: 88| PIM: 28
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SMJHL Regular Season Statistics:
S34| KEL| GP 50| G: 10| A: 09| P: 19| : +19| PIM: 38| H: 107|
S35| KEL| GP 50| G: 17| A: 16| P: 33| : -10| PIM: 58| H: 145|
S36| KEL| GP 50| G: 18| A: 17| P: 35| : +04| PIM: 58| H: 130|
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics:
S34| KEL| GP: 06| G: 2| A: 4| P: 6| : +5| PIM: 02| H: 17|
S35| KEL| GP: 12| G: 5| A: 3| P: 8| : +2| PIM: 12| H: 31|
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International Hockey Statistics (IIHF):
S36| AUT| GP 11| G: 2| A: 2| P: 04| : +1| PIM: 12| H: 22| SOG: 16
S37| AUT| GP 11| G: 3| A: 1| P: 04| : -6| PIM: 06| H: 51| SOG: 25
S38| AUT| GP 10| G: 3| A: 4| P: 07| : +7| PIM: 06| H: 40| SOG: 32
S39| AUT| GP 11| G: 2| A: 3| P: 05| : -04| PIM: 06| H: 36|SOG: 38
S40| AUT| GP 12| G: 4| A: 2| P: 05| : -04| PIM: 14| H: 43|SOG: 47
S41| AUT| GP 10| G: 5| A: 2| P: 07| : -03| PIM: 06| H: 24|SOG: 44
S42| AUT| GP 13| G: 3| A: 5| P: 08| : -01| PIM: 12| H: 26|SOG: 51
S43| AUT| GP 12| G: 6| A: 7| P: 13| : -02| PIM: 12| H: 56|SOG: 42
S44| AUT| GP 11| G: 6| A: 8| P: 14| :+06| PIM: 06| H: 48|SOG: 36
S45| AUT| GP 13| G: 7| A: 3| P: 10| :+01| PIM: 16| H: 45|SOG: 61
S46| AUT| GP 15| G:10| A:10| P:20| :+11| PIM :08| H: 58|SOG: 61
S47| AUT| GP 15| G:08| A:08| P:16| :+09| PIM :10| H: 36|SOG: 56
S47| AUT| GP 12| G:04| A:10| P:14| :+00| PIM :04| H: 33|SOG: 51
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Drafts:
S34 - SMJHL: Drafted 22nd overall by Kelowna
S35 - SHL: Drafted 4th overall by Edmonton
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Contracts:
S34 - Signed 1-yr/$2mil entry deal with Kelowna
S35 - Signed 3-yr/$1mil contract with Edmonton
S38 - Signed 2-yr/$4mil contract with Calgary
S39 - Signed 5-yr/$21mil contract extension with Calgary
S45 - Signed 2-yr/$4mil contract with Calgary
S47 - Signed 2-yr/$4mil contract with Calgary
S49 - Signed 2-yr/$6mil contract with Calgary
S51 - Signed 2-yr/$6mil contract with Calgary
S53 - Signed 2-yr/$6mil contract with Calgary
S55 - Signed 1-yr/$4mill contract with Calgary
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Awards:
S34 - Maxim Horvat Award for Kelowna's Top Rookie
S35 - Elias Armia Award for Kelowna MVP
S36 - Saku Perhonen Award for Most Exciting Player
S39 - Jesster Award for Calgary Dragons MVP
S42 - Jesster Award for Calgary Dragons MVP
S43 - Damian Littleton Trophy - Most Dedicated User
S45 - Jesster Award for Calgary Dragons MVP
S46 - IIHF’s Top Forward Award
S47 - Jeff Dar Trophy - Best 2 Way Forward
S49 - Jay McDonald Trophy - Most Goals (29)
S50 - Jesster Award for Calgary Dragons MVP
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Timeline:
S35 - Named Alternate Captain of the Kelowna Knights
S35 - Named Media Director/Head Scout of Edmonton
S36 - Named Media Director of the Calgary Dragons
S36 - Transfered from Team Canada to Team Austria
S37 - Named GM of Team Austria of the IIHF
S38 - Calgary: Western Conference Champions
S39 - Named Alternate Captain of the Calgary Dragons
S39 - SHL All Star ‘3rd Team’
S40 - Calgary: Western Conference Champions
S40 - Calgary: Challenge Cup Champions!
S41 - Named Head of the SHL Awards Committee
S42 - Calgary: Western Conference Champions
S42 - Calgary: Challenge Cup Champions!
S42 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S42 - Anton Razov Nomination (Playoff MVP)
S43 - Named head of the Player Progression Department
S43 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S43 - Damian Littleton Trophy (Most Dedicated User)
S43 - IIHF Bronze Medal Winner
S44 - SHL All Star ‘2nd Team’
S44 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S45 - #1 in the SHL in hits (216)
S45 - IIHF Bronze Medal Winner
S45 - Damian Littleton Nomination (Most Dedicated User)
S46 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S46 - Damian Littleton Nomination (Most Dedicated User)
S47 - #1 in the SHL in hits (208)
S47 - Calgary: Western Conference Champions
S47 - IIHF Bronze Medal Winner
S47 - Ranked #1 in the top 100 list for S47
S48 - 1st player ever to add 50p/200h is 3 straight years
S48 - SHL All Star ‘2nd Team’
S48 - Ranked #1 in the top 100 list for S48
S48 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S48 - 6 Jeff Dar noms is the most in SHL history for that award
S49 - Calgary: Presidents Trophy
S49 - SHL All Star ‘3rd Team’
S49 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S49 - Ron Mexico Nomination (Leagues Most valuable Player)
S49 - Calgary creates the Mike Izzy Award for (Team Sportsmanship)
S50 - Calgary: Western Conference Champions
S50 - Calgary: Challenge Cup Champions!
S50 - SHL All Star ‘3rd’ Team’
S50 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S50 - Anton Razov Nomination (Playoff MVP)
S51 - Named Co-GM of the Calgary Dragons
S55 - Mike Izzy became the SHL’s all time hits leader (3585)
S55 - Mike Izzy retires from the SHL
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Trades:
S36 - Traded to the Calgary Dragons
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TPE at the start of each season:
S37 - 751 TPE
S38 - 937 TPE
S39 - 1,114 TPE
S40 - 1,298 TPE
S41 - 1,465 TPE
S42 - 1,646 TPE
S42 - 1,858 TPE
S43 - 2,041 TPE
S44 - 2,109 TPE
S45 - 2,204 TPE (Final)
Coach Izzy || General Manager || CGY || S59-Present
Overall Record: 148W, 90L, 24OTL +114
Seasons: 4
Playoffs: 4
Series Wins: 3
Challenge Cups: 0
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Regular Season Record:
S59 - 42W, 20L, 4OTL, 88 PTS, +44
- Division Winner
- 1st Round Bye
- Lost to Chicago in quarterfinals
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S60 - 38W, 21L, 7OTL, 83 PTS, +62
- Division Winner
- Wins against: Seattle, Edmonton
- Western Conference Championship Series
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S61 - 34W, 26L, 6OTL, 74 PTS, +5
- 2nd Place, Pacific Division
- Wins against: Los Angeles
- Lost to Edmonton in quarterfinals
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S62 - 36W, 23L, 7OTL, 79 PTS, +03
- 2nd Place, Pacific Division
- Lost to Seatlle in round 1
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12-27-2018, 02:53 AM Boomcheck Wrote: We doing the Hall of Fame or Hall of Very Good? I could look at the hall and point out a guy or two and go 'Why is he in there?'
22 seasons as a very good player I would expect him to be pretty high up there in overall points produced/playoff leader boards and whatnot. 22 seasons.
Here's a rough idea of the awards these guys have in major awards voted on by the committee. I don't take this as the gospel or anything, there can be mistakes made in these.
Esa: None
Eriksson: League MVP/Playoff MVP
Garbznzo: League MVP/Stevensx5
Joe McK: League MVPx2/Darx2
Kane: League MVPx2/Darx2/Playoff MVP
D. Winter: None
Hallsy's forward: Has some MVPs and Dars, awards committee should change the jordan halls to taylor mcdavid since he's the same person and just changed names
LPF: None
Sarantez: None
Lloren: None
Randleman: League MVPX2/Darx2
Chris McZ: League MVP/Darx2
Adam Kylrad: Dar
There's clearly tiers within the list you even detailed and Pedersen is not in the upper echelon.
Winter and LFP have lead the league in statistical categories before I'm not a fan of Flacko and there's a reason he wasn't getting many awards despite leading the league in a bunch of categories.
Has anyone ever looked at Pedersen and went 'damn that guy is the best player at his position'
Pedersen top 10 scoring finishes:
S33 (T5)
Think that's it.
He'll have his # retired in Calgary, but it shouldn't be a shock that he didn't get in first ballot.
And I don't think he'll get into the Hall of Fame for being great, he'll get in for being very good over a long period of time. There are guys like Pedersen in the hall that have been very good over an extended period of time and I believe he will join them. Don't get me wrong, what Pedersen did isn't easy. Lots of one hit wonders that shouldn't be considered as good as Pedersen because they couldn't maintain any decent consistency.
The real HOF debate is goaltending. What gets them in?
372 words and not 1 word said on the 5 championship rings on his hand? Amazing.
A 1st line stud for 5 championships and your just going to bypass that as something not even worth adding in this post? 5 titles is the most championships in SHL history... are we dismissing all those titles as mid evil magic or good luck? ... it takes a player like Nicholas Pederson to be that great that he can score 869 points which is 8th all time.. yet still give a portion of his numbers towards the bigger cause.... and that should be reflected in the discussions that go on within the hall of fame group.
and if were being honest... what would those numbers had been if you put him in Chris Yorks situation over a portion of his career? It cant be all about how many tokens a player has in Argars league of distinguished players because the STHS rewards good players on shit teams. again something the committee should be adding into their equations.
Boomcheck.. I'm a big fan of yours! im just adding my counter in this discussion.. have a happy hollidays
[S58] #A-Rye Izzy || D || CGY || #Killowna || 1438 TPE
Born: S39
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 188 lbs
Number: 86
Position: Hybrid Defender
Birth Place: Vienna, Austria
Residence: Toronto, Canada
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SHL Regular Season Statistics:
S60| CGY | GP 66| G: 11| A: 15| P: 26| H: 57 | BK: 85| +15 | PPP: 00
S61| CGY | GP 66| G: 05| A: 15| P: 20| H: 64 | BK: 96| +06 | PPP: 00
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SMJHL Regular Season Statistics:
S57| KEL| GP 66| G: 05| A: 13| P: 18| H: 57| BK: 27| -01| PPP: 00
S58| KEL| GP 63| G: 08| A: 23| P: 31| H: 51| BK: 30| +20| PPP: 02
S59| KEL| GP 66| G: 13| A: 22| P: 35| H: 74| BK: 64| +30| PPP: 01
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SMJHL Post Season Statistics:
S57| KEL| GP 07| G: 00| A: 00| P: 00| H: 03| BK: 02| -01| PPP: 00
S58| KEL| GP 12| G: 01| A: 04| P: 05| H: 05| BK: 04| -04| PPP: 00
S59| KEL| GP 17| G: 06| A: 05| P: 11| H: 22| BK: 10| +11| PPP: 01
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Drafts:
S34 - SMJHL: Drafted 5th overall by Kelowna
S35 - SHL: Auto Drafted by Calgary
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Timeline:
S57 - Youngest player drafted in league history.
S58 - Named Alternate Captain of the Kelowna Knights
S58 - Won Silver Medal with DACH in the WJC
S59 - Named Captain of the Kelowna Knights
S59 - Won Gold Medal with DACH in the WJC
S59 - Kelowna wins 4-Star Cup Championship
Mike Izzy || S34-55 || HOF || TPE Max: 2207 || Cups: 3
Alias: the Augment
Born: 9/4/1995
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 228 lbs
Number: 19
Birth Place: Whitby, Ontario
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SHL Regular Season Statistics:
S55| CGY| GP 50| G: 14| A: 12| P: 26| H: 154| BK: 28| +23| SHT: 149
S54| CGY| GP 50| G: 21| A: 19| P: 40| H: 108| BK: 28| -05 | SHT: 144
S53| CGY| GP 50| G: 17| A: 23| P: 40| H: 185| BK: 13| +11| SHT: 152
S52| CGY| GP 50| G: 17| A: 21| P: 38| H: 196| BK: 19| +11| SHT: 199
S51| CGY| GP 50| G: 14| A: 23| P: 37| H: 227| BK: 18| -05| SHT: 166
S50| CGY| GP 50| G: 18| A: 33| P: 51| H: 186| BK: 20| +16| SHT: 185
S49| CGY| GP 50| G: 29| A: 24| P: 53| H: 174| BK: 11| +24| SHT: 177
S48| CGY| GP 50| G: 21| A: 29| P: 50| H: 220| BK: 15| +10| SHT: 196
S47| CGY| GP 50| G: 20| A: 30| P: 50| H: 208| BK: 26| +18| SHT: 193
S46| CGY| GP 50| G: 22| A: 28| P: 50| H: 218| BK: 19| +05| SHT: 252
S45| CGY| GP 50| G: 15| A: 26| P: 41| H: 216| BK: 14| -03| SHT: 216
S44| CGY| GP 50| G: 19| A: 33| P: 52| H: 180| BK: 10| +15| SHT: 206
S43| CGY| GP 50| G: 21| A: 27| P: 48| H: 198| BK: 10| +04| SHT: 214
S42| CGY| GP 50| G: 26| A: 26| P: 52| H: 176| BK: 17| +11| SHT: 213
S41| CGY| GP 50| G: 20| A: 25| P: 45| H: 190| BK: 13| - 05| SHT: 208
S40| CGY| GP 50| G: 20| A: 20| P: 40| H: 200| BK: 16| +10| SHT: 193
S39| CGY| GP 50| G: 24| A: 24| P: 48| H: 209| BK: 05| +23| SHT: 178
S38| CGY| GP 50| G: 15| A: 16| P: 31| H: 192| BK: 07| +09| SHT: 124
S37| CGY| GP 50| G: 07| A: 09| P: 16| H: 149| BK: 04| +06| SHT: 071
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SHL Playoff Statistics:
S37| CGY| GP 07| G: 00| A: 00| P: 00| H: 17|: -07| SHT: 40| PIM: 02
S38| CGY| GP 18| G: 06| A: 01| P: 07| H: 65|: -04| SHT: 67| PIM: 28
S39| CGY| GP 04| G: 00| A: 00| P: 00| H: 11|: -04| SHT: 08| PIM: 06
S40| CGY| GP 19| G: 06| A: 11| P: 17| H: 50|: +02|SHT: 37| PIM: 12
S41| CGY| GP 06| G: 01| A: 03| P: 04| H: 32|: -04| SHT: 12| PIM: 16
S42| CGY| GP 14| G: 14| A: 10| P: 24| H: 70|: +11|SHT: 85| PIM: 19
S43| CGY| GP 06| G: 02| A: 00| P: 02| H: 18|: +01|SHT: 24| PIM: 00
S44| CGY| GP 05| G: 01| A: 03| P: 04| H: 21|: -02|SHT: 23| PIM: 04
S46| CGY| GP 10| G: 06| A: 06| P: 12| H: 49|: +03|SHT: 35| PIM: 27
S47| CGY| GP 10| G: 06| A: 06| P: 12| H: 49|: +03|SHT: 35| PIM: 27
S48| CGY| GP 11| G: 04| A: 06| P: 10| H: 47|: +01|SHT: 55| PIM: 10
S49| CGY| GP 07| G: 03| A: 06| P: 09| H: 29| : -01| SHT: 32| PIM: 04
S50| CGY| GP 20| G: 16| A: 16| P: 32| H: 68| :+21| SHT: 88| PIM: 28
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SMJHL Regular Season Statistics:
S34| KEL| GP 50| G: 10| A: 09| P: 19| : +19| PIM: 38| H: 107|
S35| KEL| GP 50| G: 17| A: 16| P: 33| : -10| PIM: 58| H: 145|
S36| KEL| GP 50| G: 18| A: 17| P: 35| : +04| PIM: 58| H: 130|
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics:
S34| KEL| GP: 06| G: 2| A: 4| P: 6| : +5| PIM: 02| H: 17|
S35| KEL| GP: 12| G: 5| A: 3| P: 8| : +2| PIM: 12| H: 31|
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International Hockey Statistics (IIHF):
S36| AUT| GP 11| G: 2| A: 2| P: 04| : +1| PIM: 12| H: 22| SOG: 16
S37| AUT| GP 11| G: 3| A: 1| P: 04| : -6| PIM: 06| H: 51| SOG: 25
S38| AUT| GP 10| G: 3| A: 4| P: 07| : +7| PIM: 06| H: 40| SOG: 32
S39| AUT| GP 11| G: 2| A: 3| P: 05| : -04| PIM: 06| H: 36|SOG: 38
S40| AUT| GP 12| G: 4| A: 2| P: 05| : -04| PIM: 14| H: 43|SOG: 47
S41| AUT| GP 10| G: 5| A: 2| P: 07| : -03| PIM: 06| H: 24|SOG: 44
S42| AUT| GP 13| G: 3| A: 5| P: 08| : -01| PIM: 12| H: 26|SOG: 51
S43| AUT| GP 12| G: 6| A: 7| P: 13| : -02| PIM: 12| H: 56|SOG: 42
S44| AUT| GP 11| G: 6| A: 8| P: 14| :+06| PIM: 06| H: 48|SOG: 36
S45| AUT| GP 13| G: 7| A: 3| P: 10| :+01| PIM: 16| H: 45|SOG: 61
S46| AUT| GP 15| G:10| A:10| P:20| :+11| PIM :08| H: 58|SOG: 61
S47| AUT| GP 15| G:08| A:08| P:16| :+09| PIM :10| H: 36|SOG: 56
S47| AUT| GP 12| G:04| A:10| P:14| :+00| PIM :04| H: 33|SOG: 51
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Drafts:
S34 - SMJHL: Drafted 22nd overall by Kelowna
S35 - SHL: Drafted 4th overall by Edmonton
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Contracts:
S34 - Signed 1-yr/$2mil entry deal with Kelowna
S35 - Signed 3-yr/$1mil contract with Edmonton
S38 - Signed 2-yr/$4mil contract with Calgary
S39 - Signed 5-yr/$21mil contract extension with Calgary
S45 - Signed 2-yr/$4mil contract with Calgary
S47 - Signed 2-yr/$4mil contract with Calgary
S49 - Signed 2-yr/$6mil contract with Calgary
S51 - Signed 2-yr/$6mil contract with Calgary
S53 - Signed 2-yr/$6mil contract with Calgary
S55 - Signed 1-yr/$4mill contract with Calgary
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Awards:
S34 - Maxim Horvat Award for Kelowna's Top Rookie
S35 - Elias Armia Award for Kelowna MVP
S36 - Saku Perhonen Award for Most Exciting Player
S39 - Jesster Award for Calgary Dragons MVP
S42 - Jesster Award for Calgary Dragons MVP
S43 - Damian Littleton Trophy - Most Dedicated User
S45 - Jesster Award for Calgary Dragons MVP
S46 - IIHF’s Top Forward Award
S47 - Jeff Dar Trophy - Best 2 Way Forward
S49 - Jay McDonald Trophy - Most Goals (29)
S50 - Jesster Award for Calgary Dragons MVP
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Timeline:
S35 - Named Alternate Captain of the Kelowna Knights
S35 - Named Media Director/Head Scout of Edmonton
S36 - Named Media Director of the Calgary Dragons
S36 - Transfered from Team Canada to Team Austria
S37 - Named GM of Team Austria of the IIHF
S38 - Calgary: Western Conference Champions
S39 - Named Alternate Captain of the Calgary Dragons
S39 - SHL All Star ‘3rd Team’
S40 - Calgary: Western Conference Champions
S40 - Calgary: Challenge Cup Champions!
S41 - Named Head of the SHL Awards Committee
S42 - Calgary: Western Conference Champions
S42 - Calgary: Challenge Cup Champions!
S42 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S42 - Anton Razov Nomination (Playoff MVP)
S43 - Named head of the Player Progression Department
S43 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S43 - Damian Littleton Trophy (Most Dedicated User)
S43 - IIHF Bronze Medal Winner
S44 - SHL All Star ‘2nd Team’
S44 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S45 - #1 in the SHL in hits (216)
S45 - IIHF Bronze Medal Winner
S45 - Damian Littleton Nomination (Most Dedicated User)
S46 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S46 - Damian Littleton Nomination (Most Dedicated User)
S47 - #1 in the SHL in hits (208)
S47 - Calgary: Western Conference Champions
S47 - IIHF Bronze Medal Winner
S47 - Ranked #1 in the top 100 list for S47
S48 - 1st player ever to add 50p/200h is 3 straight years
S48 - SHL All Star ‘2nd Team’
S48 - Ranked #1 in the top 100 list for S48
S48 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S48 - 6 Jeff Dar noms is the most in SHL history for that award
S49 - Calgary: Presidents Trophy
S49 - SHL All Star ‘3rd Team’
S49 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S49 - Ron Mexico Nomination (Leagues Most valuable Player)
S49 - Calgary creates the Mike Izzy Award for (Team Sportsmanship)
S50 - Calgary: Western Conference Champions
S50 - Calgary: Challenge Cup Champions!
S50 - SHL All Star ‘3rd’ Team’
S50 - Jeff Dar Nomination (Best 2 way forward)
S50 - Anton Razov Nomination (Playoff MVP)
S51 - Named Co-GM of the Calgary Dragons
S55 - Mike Izzy became the SHL’s all time hits leader (3585)
S55 - Mike Izzy retires from the SHL
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Trades:
S36 - Traded to the Calgary Dragons
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TPE at the start of each season:
S37 - 751 TPE
S38 - 937 TPE
S39 - 1,114 TPE
S40 - 1,298 TPE
S41 - 1,465 TPE
S42 - 1,646 TPE
S42 - 1,858 TPE
S43 - 2,041 TPE
S44 - 2,109 TPE
S45 - 2,204 TPE (Final)
Coach Izzy || General Manager || CGY || S59-Present
Overall Record: 148W, 90L, 24OTL +114
Seasons: 4
Playoffs: 4
Series Wins: 3
Challenge Cups: 0
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Regular Season Record:
S59 - 42W, 20L, 4OTL, 88 PTS, +44
- Division Winner
- 1st Round Bye
- Lost to Chicago in quarterfinals
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S60 - 38W, 21L, 7OTL, 83 PTS, +62
- Division Winner
- Wins against: Seattle, Edmonton
- Western Conference Championship Series
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S61 - 34W, 26L, 6OTL, 74 PTS, +5
- 2nd Place, Pacific Division
- Wins against: Los Angeles
- Lost to Edmonton in quarterfinals
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S62 - 36W, 23L, 7OTL, 79 PTS, +03
- 2nd Place, Pacific Division
- Lost to Seatlle in round 1
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Personally im happy about the hof committee doesnt have the ridiculous obsession with cups like people do IRL. Sure 5 is cool and as others say he'll be inducted eventually.
Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez | RW | NL / BUF
Name: グリムジョー・ジャガージャック
From: HUECO MUNDO
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 176 lbs
| HISTORY |
SMJHL Draft: S68, 33rd Overall, Newfoundland Berserkers
SHL Draft: S69(nice), 18th Overall, Buffalo Stampede
ディシスド デウーディー | Defenseman | CHI
Name: Disisde Dayudie / ディシスド デウーディー
From: Matsumoto, Japan
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 209 lbs
| REGULAR SEASON |
S49 | LET | GP: 50 | G: 7 | A: 19 | P: 26 | +/-: -8 | PIM: 32 | HITS: 48 | SB: 59 | ATOI: 21.70
S50 | LET | GP: 50 | G: 12 | A: 19 | P: 31 | +/-: -4 | PIM: 6 | HITS: 34 | SB: 49 | ATOI: 21.63
S51 | LET | GP: 50 | G: 13 | A: 24 | P: 37 | +/-: +1 | PIM: 28 | HITS: 43 | SB: 49 | ATOI: 22.56
S52 | NL | GP: 50 | G: 12 | A: 27 | P: 39 | +/-: -16 | PIM: 12 | HITS: 44 | SB: 45 | ATOI: 22.94
S53 | LAP | GP: 50 | G: 3 | A: 14 | P: 17 | +/-: 16 | PIM: 10 | HITS: 54 | SB: 28 | ATOI: 16.58
S54 | LAP | GP: 50 | G: 6 | A: 11 | P: 17 | +/-: 22 | PIM: 26 | HITS: 39 | SB: 54 | ATOI: 17.49
S55 | LAP | GP: 50 | G: 4 | A: 18 | P: 22 | +/-: -1 | PIM: 20 | HITS: 55 | SB: 87 | ATOI: 20.43
S56 | CHI | GP: 50 | G: 5 | A: 24 | P: 29 | +/-: 28 | PIM: 16 | HITS: 56 | SB: 95 | ATOI: 19.59
S57 | CHI | GP: 66 | G: 10 | A: 39 | P: 49 | +/-: 52 | PIM: 18 | HITS: 78 | SB: 106 | ATOI: 19.56
S58 | CHI | GP: 66 | G: 7 | A: 31 | P: 36 | +/-: 36 | PIM: 14 | HITS: 107 | SB: 92 | ATOI: 19.48
S59 | CHI | GP: 66 | G: 15 | A: 34 | P: 49 | +/-: 73 | PIM: 16 | HITS: 152 | SB: 115 | ATOI: 20:52
S60 | CHI | GP: 66 | G: 14 | A: 25 | P: 39 | +/-: 27 | PIM: 10 | HITS: 72 | SB: 93 | ATOI: 20:37
S61 | CHI | GP: 66 | G: 8 | A: 26 | P: 34 | +/-: 39 | PIM: 16 | HITS: 90 | SB: 89 | ATOI: 20:49
S62 | CHI | GP: 66 | G: 14 | A: 40 | P: 54 | +/-: 69 | PIM: 16 | HITS: 110 | SB: 52 | ATOI: 20:25
S63 | CHI | GP: 66 | G: 5 | A: 24 | P: 29 | +/-: 36 | PIM: 16 | HITS: 99 | SB: 69 | ATOI: 20:06
S64 | CHI | GP: 66 | G: 6 | A: 19 | P: 25 | +/-: 39 | PIM: 16 | HITS: 108 | SB: 112 | ATOI: 20:13
S65 | CHI | GP: 66 | G: 9 | A: 23 | P: 32 | +/-: 43 | PIM: 22 | HITS: 103 | SB: 115 | ATOI: 20:10
| PLAYOFFS |
S49 | LET | GP: 11 | G: 2 | A: 7 | P: 9 | +/-: +1 | PIM: 10 | HITS: 7 | SB: 9 | ATOI: 20.98
S50 | LET | GP: 5 | G: 1 | A: 2 | P: 3 | +/-: -4 | PIM: 6 | HITS: 3 | SB: 5 | ATOI: 21.52
S51 | LET | GP: 6 | G: 1 | A: 3 | P: 4 | +/-: 3 | PIM: 4 | HITS: 7 | SB: 11 | ATOI: 24.23
S52 | NL | GP: 10 | G: 1 | A: 8 | P: 9 | +/-: 0 | PIM: 16 | HITS: 8 | SB: 9 | ATOI: 23.19
S53 | LAP | GP: 11 | G: 2 | A: 3 | P: 5 | +/-: 5 | PIM: 2 | HITS: 17 | SB: 9 | ATOI: 19:47
S54 | LAP | GP: 12 | G: 0 | A: 2 | P: 2 | +/-: -4 | PIM: 6 | HITS: 10 | SB: 10 | ATOI: 18:29
S55 | LAP | MISSED
S56 | CHI | GP: 16 | G: 3 | A: 7 | P: 10 | +/-: 5 | PIM: 2 | HITS: 21 | SB: 33 | ATOI: 21:27
S57 | CHI | GP: 24 | G: 4 | A: 5 | P: 9 | +/-: 7 | PIM: 7 | HITS: 29 | SB: 33 | ATOI: 21:38
S58 | CHI | MISSED
S59 | CHI | GP: 16 | G: 3 | A: 12 | P: 15 | +/-: 7 | PIM: 2 | HITS: 21 | SB: 26 | ATOI: 21:38
S60 | CHI | GP: 23 | G: 3 | A: 7 | P: 10 | +/-: 4 | PIM: 0 | HITS: 23 | SB: 44 | ATOI: 21:11
S61 | CHI | GP: 11 | G: 0 | A: 5 | P: 5 | +/-: 6 | PIM: 0 | HITS: 19 | SB: 17 | ATOI: 20:52
S62 | CHI | GP: 10 | G: 2 | A: 5 | P: 7 | +/-: 4 | PIM: 2 | HITS: 8 | SB: 9 | ATOI: 20:26
S63 | CHI | GP: 14 | G: 1 | A: 7 | P: 8 | +/-: 16 | PIM: 0 | HITS: 13 | SB: 20 | ATOI: 21:15
S64 | CHI | GP: 22 | G: 4 | A: 7 | P: 11 | +/-: 14 | PIM: 2 | HITS: 36 | SB: 28 | ATOI: 21:42
S65 | CHI | GP: 17 | G: 1 | A: 8 | P: 9 | +/-: 10 | PIM: 2 | HITS: 25 | SB: 30 | ATOI: 20:28
| HISTORY |
SMJHL Draft: S49, 5th Overall, Lethbridge Lions
SHL Draft: S50, 7th Overall, Los Angeles Panthers
Traded to Chicago Syndicate S56
Challenge Cup Champion with Chicago Syndicate S57
Japan IIHF Gold Medalist S59
Bojo Biscuit Trophy Winner S59
Robert Andersson | Goaltender Supreme | MIN | Retired HoF Scrub
Name: Robert Andersson
From: Skellefteå, Sweden
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 211 lbs
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Robert Andersson | Goaltender Supreme | MIN | Retired HoF Scrub
Name: Robert Andersson
From: Skellefteå, Sweden
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 211 lbs
| Regular Season Statistics |
S25 | MTL | GP: 16 | W: 8 | L: 5 | OTL: 2 | GA: 40 | SA: 338 | SV%: 88.2 | GAA: 2.65 | SO: 0
S26 | MTL | GP: 43 | W: 28 | L: 11 | OTL: 4 | GA: 114 | SA: 913 | SV%: 87.5 | GAA: 2.69 | SO: 1
S27 | MIN | GP: 44 | W: 21 | L: 19 | OTL: 4 | GA: 123 | SA: 1304 | SV%: 90.6 | GAA: 2.75 | SO: 3
S28 | MIN | GP: 44 | W: 18 | L: 21 | OTL: 5 | GA: 135 | SA: 1331 | SV%: 89.9 | GAA: 3.03 | SO: 1
S29 | MIN | GP: 44 | W: 31 | L: 13 | OTL: 0 | GA: 105 | SA: 1260 | SV%: 91.7 | GAA: 2.37 | SO: 0
S30 | MIN | GP: 43 | W: 29 | L: 13 | OTL: 1 | GA: 117 | SA: 1249 | SV%: 90.6 | GAA: 2.70 | SO: 4
S31 | MIN | GP: 44 | W: 26 | L: 17 | OTL: 1 | GA: 121 | SA: 1360 | SV%: 91.1 | GAA: 2.73 | SO: 3
S32 | MIN | GP: 44 | W: 22 | L: 19 | OTL: 3 | GA: 100 | SA: 1338 | SV%: 92.5 | GAA: 2.26 | SO: 4
S33 | MIN | GP: 44 | W: 19 | L: 22 | OTL: 3 | GA: 118 | SA: 1408 | SV%: 91.6 | GAA: 2.66 | SO: 2
S34 | MIN | GP: 44 | W: 24 | L: 15 | OTL: 5 | GA: 133 | SA: 1467 | SV%: 90.9 | GAA: 2.98 | SO: 2
S35 | MIN | GP: 44 | W: 20 | L: 21 | OTL: 3 | GA: 134 | SA: 1428 | SV%: 90.6 | GAA: 3.02 | SO: 2
S36 | MIN | GP: 45 | W: 26 | L: 12 | OTL: 7 | GA: 109 | SA: 1324 | SV%: 91.8 | GAA: 2.39 | SO: 4
S37 | MIN | GP: 42 | W: 23 | L: 14 | OTL: 5 | GA: 103 | SA: 1220 | SV%: 91.6 | GAA: 2.43 | SO: 5
| Playoff Statistics |
S26 | MTL | GP: 5 | W:1 | L:4 | OTL: 0 | GA: 10 | SA: 128 | SV%: 92.2 | GAA: 2.01 | SO: 1
S27 | MIN | GP: 5 | W: 1 | L: 3 | OTL: 1 | GA: 15 | SA: 138 | SV%: 89.1 | GAA: 2.96 | SO: 0
S28 | MIN | MISSED
S29 | MIN | GP: 4 | W: 0 | L: 2 | OTL: 2 | GA: 18 | SA: 169 | SV%: 89.3 | GAA: 3.66 | SO: 0
S30 | MIN | GP: 4 | W: 0 | L: 1 | OTL: 3 | GA: 16 | SA: 154 | SV%: 89.6 | GAA: 3.36 | SO: 0
S31 | MIN | GP: 5 | W: 1 | L: 3 | OTL: 1 | GA: 17 | SA: 159 | SV%: 89.3 | GAA: 3.41 | SO: 0
S32 | MIN | GP: 7 | W: 3 | L: 4 | OTL: 0 | GA: 22 | SA: 274 | SV%: 92.0 | GAA: 2.83 | SO: 0
S33 | MIN | MISSED
S34 | MIN | GP: 4 | W: 0 | L: 4 | OTL: 0 | GA: 18 | SA: 156 | SV%: 88.5 | GAA: 4.51 | SO: 0
S35 | MIN | MISSED
S36 | MIN | GP: 13 | W: 6 | L: 6 | OTL: 1 | GA: 42 | SA: 419 | SV%: 90.0 | GAA: 2.94 | SO: 0
| HISTORY |
SMJHL Draft: S25, 28th Overall, Montreal Impact
SHL Draft: S26, 18th Overall, Minnesota Chiefs
1x McBride Winner, 5x McBride Nominee(most in league history)
2x IIHF Gold Medalist, 1x IIHF Silver Medalist
Most Games, Most Wins in Minnesota Chiefs History.
| AWARDS / NOMINATIONS |
S27 Nominee: John McBride Trophy
S27 Winner: Ryan Jesster Trophy
S27 IIHF Silver Medalist
S28 IIHF Gold Medalist
S29 Nominee: John McBride Trophy
S29 Winner: Aidan Richan Trophy
S29 IIHF Gold Medalist
S31 IIHF Top Goalie
S32 Nominee: John McBride Trophy
S32 IIHF Top Goalie
S33 Nominee: John McBride Trophy
S36 Nominee: Ron Mexico Trophy
S36 Winner: John McBride
S37 Nominee: John McBride
| ALL-STAR TEAMS |
S27 All-Star Rookie Team (Enough votes for East All Star Team)
S29 3rd All-Star Team
S32 2nd All-Star Team
S33 1st All-Star Team
S36 1st All-Star Team
S37 3rd All-Star Team
Dick Skillstedt | Retired Right Winger | MIN
Name: Dick Skillstedt
From: Skellefteå, Sweden
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 235 lbs
| REGULAR SEASON |
S37 | VAN | GP: 50 | G: 8 | A: 9 | P: 17 | +/-: -3 | PIM: 51 | Hits: 101 | SB: 4 | AMG: 20:05
S38 | VAN | GP: 50 | G: 11 | A: 20 | P: 31 | +/-: 11 | PIM: 64 | Hits: 120 | SB: 5 | AMG: 18:76
S39 | MIN | GP: 50 | G: 0 | A: 1 | P: 1 | +/-: -1 | PIM: 0 | Hits: 8 | SB: 1 | AMG: 4:03
S40 | MIN | GP: 50 | G: 10 | A: 5 | P: 15 | +/-: -13 | PIM: 47 | Hits: 102 | SB: 4 | AMG: 16:11
S41 | MIN | GP: 50 | G: 13 | A: 11 | P: 24 | +/-: 3 | PIM: 42 | Hits: 31 | SB: 4 | AMG: 18:88
S42 | MIN | GP: 50 | G: 15 | A: 17 | P: 32 | +/-: -11 | PIM: 55 | Hits: 94 | SB: 9 | AMG: 20:15
S43 | HAM | GP: 50 | G: 15 | A: 18 | P: 33 | +/-: 15 | PIM: 80 | Hits: 123 | SB: 8 | AMG: 19:12
S44 | HAM | GP: 50 | G: 9 | A: 23 | P: 32 | +/-: -5 | PIM: 67 | Hits: 129 | SB: 7 | AMG: 20:65
S45 | HAM/MIN | GP: 50 | G: 19 | A: 21 | P: 40 | +/-: -5 | PIM: 46 | Hits: 146 | SB: 20 | AMG: 22:64
S46 | MIN | GP: 50 | G: 27 | A: 44 | P: 71 | +/-: 25 | PIM: 45 | Hits: 92 | SB: 18 | AMG: 25:01
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12-27-2018, 04:23 AM Mike Izzy Wrote: A 1st line stud for 5 championshipsS42 3rd Line 20%|Extra Forward on the PP, 16 games 4 goals, 1 game winner, least ice time out of any CGY player not a rookie. 1st line stud? no, CGY prolly could have won without him.
S40 2nd Line 35%| 2nd PP 40%, 19 games 4g 6a no game winners, 6 forwards and 2 defenders scored more points.18 minutes per game. 1st line stud? No, but a decent middle 6 forward. CGY prolly could have won without him.
S32 1st liner tied for 3rd in team points. 1st line stud? Yeah
S29 1st liner tied for 1st in team points 1st line stud? Yeah
S27 no data but judging by his regular season performance. 1st line stud? Yeah
So he was very important for 3/5 cups. His last cup he definitely was gifted. the 4th one can be argued about but I'd lean towards saying that Pedersen played a decent enough role for that win.
Again I want Pedersen to be in the Hall but imo it's not a crime to not let him in this season I can see both points just wanted to argue the " A 1st line stud for 5 championships " thing.
Thank you all for the amazing sigs & player cards
S31 Eduard Selich || F || Buffalo Stampede || Peak: 1252
Name: Eduard Selich
Hometown: Fulda, Germany
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 195 lbs
Number: 19
Age: 29
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Regular Season Career Statistics:
SMJHL:
S30 PGF | GP 50 | G 15 | A 12 | P 27 | -3 | PIM 8 | HIT 38 | SB 5 |
S31 PGF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 20 | P 41 | -6 | PIM 18 | HIT 42 | SB 20 |
SHL:
S32 BUF | GP 50 | G 17 | A 19 | P 36 | +11 | PIM 6 | HIT 54 | SB 13 |
S33 BUF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 25 | P 46 | +14 | PIM 12 | HIT 44 | SB 21 |
S34 BUF | GP 50 | G 28 | A 35 | P 63 | +23 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 22 |
S35 BUF | GP 50 | G 17 | A 17 | P 34 | -6 | PIM 12 | HIT 13 | SB 17 |
S36 BUF | GP 50 | G 23 | A 24 | P 47 | +3 | PIM 2 | HIT 37 | SB 15 |
S37 BUF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 27 | P 48 | +9 | PIM 25 | HIT 74 | SB 15 |
S38 BUF | GP 50 | G 28 | A 27 | P 55 | +4 | PIM 44 | HIT 42 | SB 12 |
S39 BUF | GP 50 | G 18 | A 21 | P 39 | +1 | PIM 10 | HIT 48 | SB 23 |
S40 BUF | GP 50 | G 7 | A 15 | P 22 | -26 | PIM 9 | HIT 48 | SB 11 |
S41 BUF | GP 50 | G 18 | A 17 | P 35 | +10 | PIM 2 | HIT 5 | SB 11 |
S42 BUF | GP 50 | G 20 | A 21 | P 41 | +10 | PIM 0 | HIT 5 | SB 10 |
S43 SEA | GP 50 | G 19 | A 19 | P 38 | +8 | PIM 12 | HIT 47 | SB 7 |
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Playoff Career Statistic:
SMJHL:
S30 PGF | GP 17 | G 8 | A 13 | P 21 | +7 | PIM 2 | HIT 10 | SB 3 |
S31 PGF | GP 4 | G 0 | A 1 | P 1 | -5 | PIM 0 | HIT 4 | SB 2 |
SHL:
S32 BUF | Did not qualify
S33 BUF | GP 5 | G 4 | A 1 | P 5 | +1 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S34 BUF | Did not qualify
S35 BUF | GP 4 | G 2 | A 2 | P 4 | -3 | PIM 0 | HIT 5 | SB 1 |
S36 BUF | GP 7 | G 6 | A 2 | P 8 | +6 | PIM 2 | HIT 10 | SB 1 |
S37 BUF | GP 7 | G 2 | A 0 | P 2 | -3 | PIM 0 | HIT 12 | SB 0 |
S38 BUF | Did not qualify
S39 BUF | Did not qualify
S40 BUF | Did not qualify
S41 BUF | GP 7 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | -4 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 2 |
S41 BUF | GP 5 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | -7 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S43 SEA | GP 6 | G 3 | A 0 | P 3 | -3 | PIM 4 | HIT 7 | SB 2 |
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IIHF Round Robin Career Statistic:
S30 GER | GP 10 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -4 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 0 |
S31 GER | GP 10 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +2 | PIM 2 | HIT 4 | SB 1 |
S32 GER | GP 10 | G 5 | A 4 | P 9 | +4 | PIM 0 | HIT 2 | SB 3 |
S33 GER | GP 10 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +4 | PIM 2 | HIT 4 | SB 2 |
S41 GER | GP 10 | G 4 | A 1 | P 5 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 1 |
S42 GER | GP 10 | G 1 | A 2 | P 3 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 9 | SB 1 |
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IIHF Medal Round Career Statistic:
S30 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | +0 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S31 GER | GP 3 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 |
S32 GER | GP 3 | G 1 | A 2 | P 3 | +4 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S33 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -1 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 |
S41 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -1 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
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Transactions:
S30 | Drafted #20 in the SMJHL Entry Draft by the Prince George Firebirds
S30 | Signed a 1yr/1.5M deal with Prince George Firebirds
S31 | Drafted #2 in the SHL Entry Draft by the Buffalo Stampede
S31 | Signed a 2yr/2M deal with Buffalo Stampede
S32 | Signed an 23yr/23M extension with Buffalo Stampede
S34 | Contract Adjustment: 3yr/9M deal with Buffalo Stampede
S41 | Signed an 1yr/3M extension with Buffalo Stampede
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Noteable events:
S30 | Voted Alternate Captain of Prince George Firebirds
S30 | Organized WJC
S30 | Got the call to play for Team Germany
S30 | Won Zach Miller Trophy (Most Dedicated)
S30 | Won Ron Bolt Trophy (Most Sportsmanlike)
S30 | Won Ronan O'Keefe Trophy (Playoff Points Leader)
S30 | Voted S30 PGF Team MVP
S31 | Voted Captain of Prince George Firebirds
S31 | Named Germany Federation Head and won the Silver Medal
S31 | Nominated for Brandon Holmes Trophy (Top Defensive Forward)
S31 | Nominated for Zach Miller Trophy ( Most Dedicated)
S32 | Voted Alternate Captain of Buffalo Stampede
S32 | Nominated for the Ryan Jesster Trophy ( ROTY)
S32 | Named to the SHL All-Rookie Team
S32 | won the Gold Medal with team Germany
S33 | Named Buffalo Stampede Co-GM
S33 | Damien Littleton Trophy Nominee
S33 | Won Lance Uppercut Award
S34 | Named 1st Team All-Star in the SHL
S34 | Damien Littleton Trophy Nominee
S34 | Aidan Richan Trophy Nominee
S42 | Named Buffalo Stampede Co-GM
Otto Selich||GM||GER S31-S34(26-9-2)||BUF(S33-S34,S42-)||1 Gold & 2x Silver
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Round Robin Career Statistics:
S31 GER | 6-4-0 | 18 points | #1 seed Group A
S32 GER | 8-1-1 | 22 points | #1 seed Group A
S33 GER | 7-3-0 | 21 points | #1 seed Group A
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Medal Round Career Statistics:
S31 GER | 2-1-0 | Silver medal | lost to USA in the Gold medal game
S32 GER | 3-0-0 | won Gold Medal
S33 GER | 0-0-1 | lost in Quarterfinals to Finland
S45 Alexander Selich || D || || Colorado Raptors || Peak: 2134
Name: Alexander Selich
Hometown: Fulda, Germany
Height: 6'10"
Weight: 280 lbs
Number: 19
Age: 18
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Regular Season Career Statistics:
SMJHL:
S43 KEL | GP 9 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | 1 | PIM 0 | HIT 4 | SB 0 |
S44 COL | GP 50 | G 12 | A 14 | P 26 | 8 | PIM 4 | HIT 23 | SB 11 |
S45 COL | GP 50 | G 17 | A 16 | P 33 | 2 | PIM 12 | HIT 35 | SB 7 |
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Playoff Career Statistic:
SMJHL:
S43 KEL | GP 6 | G 1 | A 0 | P 1 | 0 | PIM 2 | HIT 2 | SB 0 |
S44 COL | GP 16 | G 7 | A 5 | P 12 | +3 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 6 |
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IIHF Round Robin Career Statistic:
S43 GER | GP 14 | G 0 | A 3 | P 3 | 2 | PIM 4 | HIT 7 | SB 0 |
S44 GER | GP 14 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | -10 | PIM 8 | HIT 7 | SB 4 |
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IIHF Medal Round Career Statistic:
S43 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | +0 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 |
S44 GER | GP 2 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +1 | PIM 2 | HIT 2 | SB 0 |
Transactions:
S44 | Drafted #1 in the SMJHL Entry Draft by the Colorado Raptors
S44 | Signed a 1yr/3M deal with Colorado Raptors
S45 | Drafted #22 in the SHL Entry Draft by the Buffalo Stampede
S45 | Signed a 3yr/1M deal with Buffalo Stampede
Noteable events:
3. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 5 (Maximilian Wachter, Alexis Metzler) at 16:25
5. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 6 (Steven Stamkos Jr., Brynjar Tusk) at 19:48
8. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 7 (Brynjar Tusk, Alexis Metzler) at 13:55
9. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 8 (Anton Fedorov, Mikelis Grundmanis) at 15:12
10. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 9 (Dickie Pecker) at 19:43 (Empty Net)
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12-27-2018, 06:41 AM Tomen Wrote: 12-27-2018, 04:23 AM Mike Izzy Wrote: A 1st line stud for 5 championships S42 3rd Line 20%|Extra Forward on the PP, 16 games 4 goals, 1 game winner, least ice time out of any CGY player not a rookie. 1st line stud? no, CGY prolly could have won without him.
S40 2nd Line 35%| 2nd PP 40%, 19 games 4g 6a no game winners, 6 forwards and 2 defenders scored more points.18 minutes per game. 1st line stud? No, but a decent middle 6 forward. CGY prolly could have won without him.
S32 1st liner tied for 3rd in team points. 1st line stud? Yeah
S29 1st liner tied for 1st in team points 1st line stud? Yeah
S27 no data but judging by his regular season performance. 1st line stud? Yeah
So he was very important for 3/5 cups. His last cup he definitely was gifted. the 4th one can be argued about but I'd lean towards saying that Pedersen played a decent enough role for that win.
Again I want Pedersen to be in the Hall but imo it's not a crime to not let him in this season I can see both points just wanted to argue the " A 1st line stud for 5 championships " thing.
He was only "important for 3 cups" would make me jizz so hard.
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12-27-2018, 08:50 AM .bojo Wrote: 12-27-2018, 06:41 AM Tomen Wrote: S42 3rd Line 20%|Extra Forward on the PP, 16 games 4 goals, 1 game winner, least ice time out of any CGY player not a rookie. 1st line stud? no, CGY prolly could have won without him.
S40 2nd Line 35%| 2nd PP 40%, 19 games 4g 6a no game winners, 6 forwards and 2 defenders scored more points.18 minutes per game. 1st line stud? No, but a decent middle 6 forward. CGY prolly could have won without him.
S32 1st liner tied for 3rd in team points. 1st line stud? Yeah
S29 1st liner tied for 1st in team points 1st line stud? Yeah
S27 no data but judging by his regular season performance. 1st line stud? Yeah
So he was very important for 3/5 cups. His last cup he definitely was gifted. the 4th one can be argued about but I'd lean towards saying that Pedersen played a decent enough role for that win.
Again I want Pedersen to be in the Hall but imo it's not a crime to not let him in this season I can see both points just wanted to argue the " A 1st line stud for 5 championships " thing.
He was only "important for 3 cups" would make me jizz so hard.
me too
Thank you all for the amazing sigs & player cards
S31 Eduard Selich || F || Buffalo Stampede || Peak: 1252
Name: Eduard Selich
Hometown: Fulda, Germany
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 195 lbs
Number: 19
Age: 29
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Regular Season Career Statistics:
SMJHL:
S30 PGF | GP 50 | G 15 | A 12 | P 27 | -3 | PIM 8 | HIT 38 | SB 5 |
S31 PGF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 20 | P 41 | -6 | PIM 18 | HIT 42 | SB 20 |
SHL:
S32 BUF | GP 50 | G 17 | A 19 | P 36 | +11 | PIM 6 | HIT 54 | SB 13 |
S33 BUF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 25 | P 46 | +14 | PIM 12 | HIT 44 | SB 21 |
S34 BUF | GP 50 | G 28 | A 35 | P 63 | +23 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 22 |
S35 BUF | GP 50 | G 17 | A 17 | P 34 | -6 | PIM 12 | HIT 13 | SB 17 |
S36 BUF | GP 50 | G 23 | A 24 | P 47 | +3 | PIM 2 | HIT 37 | SB 15 |
S37 BUF | GP 50 | G 21 | A 27 | P 48 | +9 | PIM 25 | HIT 74 | SB 15 |
S38 BUF | GP 50 | G 28 | A 27 | P 55 | +4 | PIM 44 | HIT 42 | SB 12 |
S39 BUF | GP 50 | G 18 | A 21 | P 39 | +1 | PIM 10 | HIT 48 | SB 23 |
S40 BUF | GP 50 | G 7 | A 15 | P 22 | -26 | PIM 9 | HIT 48 | SB 11 |
S41 BUF | GP 50 | G 18 | A 17 | P 35 | +10 | PIM 2 | HIT 5 | SB 11 |
S42 BUF | GP 50 | G 20 | A 21 | P 41 | +10 | PIM 0 | HIT 5 | SB 10 |
S43 SEA | GP 50 | G 19 | A 19 | P 38 | +8 | PIM 12 | HIT 47 | SB 7 |
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Playoff Career Statistic:
SMJHL:
S30 PGF | GP 17 | G 8 | A 13 | P 21 | +7 | PIM 2 | HIT 10 | SB 3 |
S31 PGF | GP 4 | G 0 | A 1 | P 1 | -5 | PIM 0 | HIT 4 | SB 2 |
SHL:
S32 BUF | Did not qualify
S33 BUF | GP 5 | G 4 | A 1 | P 5 | +1 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S34 BUF | Did not qualify
S35 BUF | GP 4 | G 2 | A 2 | P 4 | -3 | PIM 0 | HIT 5 | SB 1 |
S36 BUF | GP 7 | G 6 | A 2 | P 8 | +6 | PIM 2 | HIT 10 | SB 1 |
S37 BUF | GP 7 | G 2 | A 0 | P 2 | -3 | PIM 0 | HIT 12 | SB 0 |
S38 BUF | Did not qualify
S39 BUF | Did not qualify
S40 BUF | Did not qualify
S41 BUF | GP 7 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | -4 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 2 |
S41 BUF | GP 5 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | -7 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S43 SEA | GP 6 | G 3 | A 0 | P 3 | -3 | PIM 4 | HIT 7 | SB 2 |
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IIHF Round Robin Career Statistic:
S30 GER | GP 10 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -4 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 0 |
S31 GER | GP 10 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +2 | PIM 2 | HIT 4 | SB 1 |
S32 GER | GP 10 | G 5 | A 4 | P 9 | +4 | PIM 0 | HIT 2 | SB 3 |
S33 GER | GP 10 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +4 | PIM 2 | HIT 4 | SB 2 |
S41 GER | GP 10 | G 4 | A 1 | P 5 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 1 |
S42 GER | GP 10 | G 1 | A 2 | P 3 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 9 | SB 1 |
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IIHF Medal Round Career Statistic:
S30 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | +0 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S31 GER | GP 3 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -2 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 |
S32 GER | GP 3 | G 1 | A 2 | P 3 | +4 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
S33 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -1 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 |
S41 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | -1 | PIM 0 | HIT 0 | SB 0 |
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Transactions:
S30 | Drafted #20 in the SMJHL Entry Draft by the Prince George Firebirds
S30 | Signed a 1yr/1.5M deal with Prince George Firebirds
S31 | Drafted #2 in the SHL Entry Draft by the Buffalo Stampede
S31 | Signed a 2yr/2M deal with Buffalo Stampede
S32 | Signed an 23yr/23M extension with Buffalo Stampede
S34 | Contract Adjustment: 3yr/9M deal with Buffalo Stampede
S41 | Signed an 1yr/3M extension with Buffalo Stampede
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Noteable events:
S30 | Voted Alternate Captain of Prince George Firebirds
S30 | Organized WJC
S30 | Got the call to play for Team Germany
S30 | Won Zach Miller Trophy (Most Dedicated)
S30 | Won Ron Bolt Trophy (Most Sportsmanlike)
S30 | Won Ronan O'Keefe Trophy (Playoff Points Leader)
S30 | Voted S30 PGF Team MVP
S31 | Voted Captain of Prince George Firebirds
S31 | Named Germany Federation Head and won the Silver Medal
S31 | Nominated for Brandon Holmes Trophy (Top Defensive Forward)
S31 | Nominated for Zach Miller Trophy ( Most Dedicated)
S32 | Voted Alternate Captain of Buffalo Stampede
S32 | Nominated for the Ryan Jesster Trophy ( ROTY)
S32 | Named to the SHL All-Rookie Team
S32 | won the Gold Medal with team Germany
S33 | Named Buffalo Stampede Co-GM
S33 | Damien Littleton Trophy Nominee
S33 | Won Lance Uppercut Award
S34 | Named 1st Team All-Star in the SHL
S34 | Damien Littleton Trophy Nominee
S34 | Aidan Richan Trophy Nominee
S42 | Named Buffalo Stampede Co-GM
Otto Selich||GM||GER S31-S34(26-9-2)||BUF(S33-S34,S42-)||1 Gold & 2x Silver
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Round Robin Career Statistics:
S31 GER | 6-4-0 | 18 points | #1 seed Group A
S32 GER | 8-1-1 | 22 points | #1 seed Group A
S33 GER | 7-3-0 | 21 points | #1 seed Group A
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Medal Round Career Statistics:
S31 GER | 2-1-0 | Silver medal | lost to USA in the Gold medal game
S32 GER | 3-0-0 | won Gold Medal
S33 GER | 0-0-1 | lost in Quarterfinals to Finland
S45 Alexander Selich || D || || Colorado Raptors || Peak: 2134
Name: Alexander Selich
Hometown: Fulda, Germany
Height: 6'10"
Weight: 280 lbs
Number: 19
Age: 18
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Regular Season Career Statistics:
SMJHL:
S43 KEL | GP 9 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | 1 | PIM 0 | HIT 4 | SB 0 |
S44 COL | GP 50 | G 12 | A 14 | P 26 | 8 | PIM 4 | HIT 23 | SB 11 |
S45 COL | GP 50 | G 17 | A 16 | P 33 | 2 | PIM 12 | HIT 35 | SB 7 |
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Playoff Career Statistic:
SMJHL:
S43 KEL | GP 6 | G 1 | A 0 | P 1 | 0 | PIM 2 | HIT 2 | SB 0 |
S44 COL | GP 16 | G 7 | A 5 | P 12 | +3 | PIM 2 | HIT 3 | SB 6 |
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IIHF Round Robin Career Statistic:
S43 GER | GP 14 | G 0 | A 3 | P 3 | 2 | PIM 4 | HIT 7 | SB 0 |
S44 GER | GP 14 | G 1 | A 1 | P 2 | -10 | PIM 8 | HIT 7 | SB 4 |
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IIHF Medal Round Career Statistic:
S43 GER | GP 1 | G 0 | A 0 | P 0 | +0 | PIM 0 | HIT 1 | SB 0 |
S44 GER | GP 2 | G 2 | A 1 | P 3 | +1 | PIM 2 | HIT 2 | SB 0 |
Transactions:
S44 | Drafted #1 in the SMJHL Entry Draft by the Colorado Raptors
S44 | Signed a 1yr/3M deal with Colorado Raptors
S45 | Drafted #22 in the SHL Entry Draft by the Buffalo Stampede
S45 | Signed a 3yr/1M deal with Buffalo Stampede
Noteable events:
3. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 5 (Maximilian Wachter, Alexis Metzler) at 16:25
5. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 6 (Steven Stamkos Jr., Brynjar Tusk) at 19:48
8. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 7 (Brynjar Tusk, Alexis Metzler) at 13:55
9. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 8 (Anton Fedorov, Mikelis Grundmanis) at 15:12
10. Buffalo Stampede , Eduard Selich 9 (Dickie Pecker) at 19:43 (Empty Net)
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12-26-2018, 04:04 PM ToeDragon84 Wrote: 12-26-2018, 12:10 PM .bojo Wrote: I mean... Izzy does have a point? Almost everyone else in that screenshot is HOF, and he has a bunch of championships to back it up. His rookie season he had 30 points, and from s23-s37 had no less than 40 points a season, including four over 50 with one at 59. In his 22 seasons, he had 4 under 30 points within the tail end of the career.
Not to crap on Nereus, who I'm not sure if his entry was the first ballot or not, but I'd think that kind of consistency is better than Nereus's one really good season in s34.
Fleming led the Jets for 6 seasons in a row, pretty consistent in his own right. Summing their career as one really good season in S34 is weak.
Also, since this was kinda brushed over (catching up from AWOL these past few days), it was not his first ballot. It was his third, which reads like the consensus on when Pedersen will get in from what I'm gathering in this thread?
Flemmy definitely wasn't around as long as Pedey, but even in that shorter span he had more PPG seasons and just as many 100+ hit seasons (with better numbers in those seasons). It's easy to say his MVP season was an aberration because it was his only award-winning season, but it ... really wasn't?
A more interesting argument re: these two players, honestly, would be ice time. How much did Flemmy's numbers benefit from playing sometimes 1400 minutes in a season when Nicky, even at his peak, topped out at 1272 in his last season as a Panther? A quick and dirty and hardly conclusive "pro-rating" of Pedey's stats in his peak seasons to play double-shift minutes doesn't quite get him to Flemmy's peak during that time, but it does get him into the 64-68 point range, and what's to say more time against third-liners wouldn't have accounted for a couple of extra points here and there?
I say all of this to say, just from my experience voting on awards (none whatsoever with HOF), it's rarely as simple as anyone will want you to think at first glance. I could go on and on dissecting various pros and cons for both of these guys - and that's not mentioning the dozens of other names up for the HOF each season, and the ones who will join that list next season and so on.
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Zach Evans || Forward || Winnipeg Jets
Name: Zach Evans
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 195 lbs
Number: 18
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SHL Career Statistics:
S32 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 9, A: 5, P: 14, +/-: -1, PIMS: 12, H: 59
S33 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 8, A: 15, P: 23, +/-: 3, PIMS: 49, H: 106
S34 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 14, A: 14, P: 28, +/-: 7, PIMS: 46, H: 96
S35 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 22, A: 26, P: 48, +/-: -4, PIMS: 23, H: 113
S36 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 28, A: 30, P: 58, +/-: 23, PIMS: 51, H: 140
S37 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 24, A: 27, P: 51, +/-: 2, PIMS: 36, H: 220
S38 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 27. A: 38, P: 65, +/-: 12, PIMS: 45, H: 158
S39 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 32, P: 47, +/-: 11, PIMS: 43, H: 85
S40 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 22, A: 31, P: 53, +/-: 11, PIMS: 15, H: 49
S41 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 27, A: 35, P: 62, +/-: 26, PIMS: 34, H: 82
S42 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 29, P: 45, +/-: -3, PIMS: 15, H: 6
S43 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 29, P: 45, +/-: 11, PIMS: 27, H: 15
S44 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 14, A: 31, P: 45, +/-: 3, PIMS: 17, H: 17
S45 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 34, P: 49, +/-: 4, PIMS: 2, H: 27
CAREER: GP: 700, G: 257, A: 376, P: 633, +/-: 105, PIMS: 415, H: 1,173
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SHL Playoff Statistics:
S34 (WPG): GP: 5, G: 2, A: 1, P: 3, +/-: 0, PIMS: 4, H: 7
S36 (WPG): GP: 6, G: 0, A: 3, P: 3, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 16
S37 (WPG): GP: 18, G: 11, A: 14, P: 25, +/-: 19, PIMS: 12, H: 81
S38 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 6, A: 9, P: 15, +/-: 5, PIMS: 4, H: 32
S39 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 5, A: 6, P: 11, +/-: -2, PIMS: 6, H: 31
S40 (WPG): GP: 14, G: 5, A: 4, P: 9, +/-: 1, PIMS: 13, H: 7
S41 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 8, A: 6, P: 14, +/-: 3, PIMS: 9, H: 26
S43 (WPG): GP: 17, G: 4, A: 9, P: 13, +/-: 11, PIMS: 2, H: 4
S44 (WPG): GP: 18, G: 4, A: 15, P: 19, +/-: 7, PIMS: 0, H: 3
S45 (WPG): GP: 4, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 2
CAREER: GP: 121, G: 46, A: 69, P: 115, +/-: 41, PIMS: 50, H: 209
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SMJHL Career Statistics:
S30 (DET): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 12, P: 28, +/-: 8, PIMS: 10, H: 44
S31 (DET): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 23, P: 38, +/-: -2, PIMS: 35, H: 84
CAREER: GP: 100, G: 31, A: 35, P: 66, +/-: 6, PIMS: 45, H: 128
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics:
S30 (DET): GP: 5, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -1, PIMS: 2, H: 0
S31 (DET): GP: 13, G: 5, A: 7, P: 12, +/-: 3, PIMS: 0, H: 9
CAREER: GP: 18, G: 5, A: 8, P: 13, +/-: 2, PIMS: 2, H: 9
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IIHF Statistics (Russia):
S30: GP: 11, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 7
S32: GP: 13, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: -4, PIMS: 4, H: 17
S33: GP: 11, G: 3, A: 6, P: 9, +/-: 5, PIMS: 4, H: 12
S34: GP: 11, G: 6, A: 2, P: 8, +/-: 2, PIMS: 2, H: 10
S35: GP: 13, G: 5, A: 4, P: 9, +/-: 4, PIMS: 18, H: 22
S36: GP: 11, G: 4, A: 3, P: 7, +/-: -3, PIMS: 2, H: 5
S37: GP: 10, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: 0, PIMS: 0, H: 8
S38: GP: 13, G: 3, A: 10, P: 13, +/-: 8, PIMS: 4, H: 5
S39: GP: 10, G: 6, A: 6, P: 12, +/-: 1, PIMS: 2, H: 11
S40: GP: 10, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -6, PIMS: 2, H: 8
S41: GP: 11, G: 4, A: 5, P: 9, +/-: 0, PIMS: 2, H: 7
S42: GP: 10, G: 5, A: 9, P: 14, +/-: 5, PIMS: 0, H: 1
S43: GP: 13, G: 4, A: 7, P: 11, +/-: 6, PIMS: 0, H: 0
S44: GP: 10, G: 4, A: 8, P: 12, +/-: 1, PIMS: 0, H: 0
S45: GP: 10, G: 6, A: 1, P: 7, +/-: -13, PIMS: 0, H: 2
CAREER: GP: 167 G: 54, A: 65, P: 119, +/-: 5, PIMS: 40, H: 105
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Transactions and Awards:
Drafted 25th overall by Detroit, S30 SMJHL Entry Draft
S30 Vyacheslav Onoprienko Trophy Winner
Drafted 5th overall by Winnipeg, S31 SHL Entry Draft
S32 Oriens Trophy Winner (Co-GM, Detroit)
S32 IIHF Bronze Medalist
S36 SHL Second-Team All-Star
S37 Challenge Cup Champion
S38 Sergei Karpotsov Trophy Winner
S38 SHL First-Team All-Star
S38 Sarmad Khan Trophy Winner
S38 Jeff Dar Trophy Winner
S38 Damian Littleton Trophy Winner
S38 IIHF Gold Medalist
S43 IIHF Silver Medalist
S44 Challenge Cup Champion
Inducted into SHL Hall of Fame, S47
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Two things are infinite.
Nikolai Evans || Defenseman || HAM/TBB/TEX
Name: Nikolai Evans
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 210 lbs
Number: 19
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SHL Career Statistics:
S47 (HAM): GP: 50, G: 1, A: 10, P: 11, +/-: -4, SB: 39, H: 32
S48 (HAM): GP: 50, G: 5, A: 9, P: 14, +/1: 6, SB: 57, H: 37
S49 (TBB): GP: 50, G: 9, A: 14, P: 23, +/-: -22, SB: 78, H: 51
S50 (TBB): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 20, P: 27, +/-: 4, SB: 64, H: 39
CAREER: GP: 200, G: 22, A: 53, P: 75, +/-: -16, SB: 238, H: 159
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SHL Playoff Statistics:
S48 (HAM): GP: 5, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -1, SB: 6, H: 3
S49 (TBB): GP: 12, G: 0, A: 5, P: 5, +/-: 0, SB: 20, H: 8
S50 (TBB): GP: 19, G: 5, A: 7, P: 12, +/-: 1, SB: 29, H: 6
CAREER: GP: 36, G: 6, A: 12, P: 18, +/-: 0, SB: 55, H: 17
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SMJHL Career Statistics:
S45 (MTL): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 13, P: 20, +/-: -1, SB: 60, H: 25
S46 (MTL/HFX): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 20, P: 27, +/-: -1, SB: 47, H: 68
CAREER: GP: 100, G: 14, A: 33, P: 47, +/-: -2, SB: 107, H: 93
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics:
S45 (MTL): GP: 6, G: 2, A: 3, P: 5, +/-: -1, SB: 7, H: 4
S46 (HFX): GP: 13, G: 3, A: 2, P: 5, +/-: -4, SB: 18, H: 14
CAREER: GP: 19, G: 5, A: 5, P: 10, +/-: -5, SB: 25, H: 18
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IIHF Statistics (Russia):
S45: GP: 10, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -5, SB: 12, H: 2
S46: GP: 12, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -2, SB: 11, H: 2
S47: GP: 12, G: 2, A: 7, P: 9, +/-: 2, SB: 17, H: 12
S48: GP: 12, G: 2, A: 4, P: 6, +/-: -6, SB: 22, H: 0
S49: GP: 15, G: 6, A: 6, P: 12, +/-: -6, SB: 25, H: 7
CAREER: GP: 61, G: 10, A: 19, P: 29, +/-: -17, SB: 87, H: 23
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WJC Statistics:
S44 (World): GP: 15, G: 6, A: 7, P: 13, +/-: 8, SB: 18, H: 13
S45 (Russia): GP: 22, G: 2, A: 10, P: 12, +/-: -13, SB: 33, H: 14
S46 (Russia): GP: 28, G: 9, A: 15, P: 23, +/-: 0, SB: 26, H: 14
CAREER: GP: 55, G: 17, A: 32, P: 48, +/-: -5, SB: 77, H: 41
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Transactions and Awards:
Drafted 1st overall by Montreal, S45 SMJHL Entry Draft
Drafted 1st overall by Hamilton, S46 SHL Entry Draft
Traded to Halifax Raiders during S46 SMJHL season
Traded to Tampa Bay Barracuda prior to S49 SHL season
S48 Fantasy Global Champion
S50 Mathias Chouinard Trophy Winner
I'll finish updating this at some point
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The Russian Prince
Zdenko Beranek || Winger || Quebec City Citadelles
Name: Zdenko Beranek
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 175 lbs
Number: 27
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SMJHL Career Statistics:
S55 (QCC): GP: 50, G: 6, A: 15, P: 21, +/-: -22, PIMS: 6
S56 (QCC): GP: 50, G: 10, A: 27, P: 37, +/-: 9, PIMS: 20
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Transactions and Awards:
Drafted 1st overall by Quebec City, S55 SMJHL Entry Draft
Drafted 18th overall by Seattle, S56 SHL Entry Draft
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Le Petite Chèvre
Also, like I have said numerous times, getting more ice time doesn't mean you add the same P/20 average to the extra time. It isn't a linear deal.
Guys with fewer minutes would assuredly have more points, but there is no guarantee they would score at the same pace (or higher or lower), which makes it incredibly hard to really compare.
Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen):
2nd in Goals (208),
All-Time Assists Leader (765)*,
All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587),
All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)*
*All-Time Leader Among All Skaters
Player Profile |
Update Thread
Alonzo Garbanzo (Retired) | D | Minnesota Chiefs
Age: 41
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 185 lbs
Number: 2
Player Type: TWD
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SMJHL Regular Season Statistics (S20)
MTL | GP: 40 | G: 8 | A: 21 | P: 29 | +/-: +13 | SB: 62
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics (S20)
MTL | GP: 6 | G: 0 | A: 2 | P: 2 | +/-: -2 | SB: 9
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SHL Regular Season Statistics (S21-S43)
MIN | GP: 1158 | G: 200 | A: 750 | P: 950 | +/-: Even | HIT: 2538 | SB: 1807
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SHL Playoff Statistics (S21-S41)
MIN | GP: 139 | G: 20 | A: 89 | P: 109 | +/-: -19 | HIT: 291 | SB: 234
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IIHF Statistics (S21-S38)
SWE | GP: 211 | G: 36 | A: 125 | P: 161 | +/-: +16 | HIT: 553 | SB: 325
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International Awards
IIHF Gold Medal (S28, S29)
IIHF Silver Medal (S21, S27, S35)
IIHF Bronze Medal (S22, S23)
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Transactions
S20 | Drafted 3rd Overall to the Montreal Impact
S21 | Drafted 2nd Overall to the Minnesota Chiefs
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Notable Events
S21 | Named Alternate Captain of the Minnesota Chiefs
S23 | Named Captain of the Minnesota Chiefs
S24 | 4th in Assists
S24 | 4th in Defensemen Points
S26 | 1st in Assists
S26 | 1st in Defensemen Points
S26 | 2nd in Penalty Minutes
S27 | 1st in Defensemen Points
S27 | T-1st in Defensemen Goals
S27 | 1st in Blocked Shots
S27 | 2nd in Game-Tying Goals
S29 | 4th in Assists
S29 | 5th in Defensemen Points
S30 | 4th in Assists
S30 | 4th in Defensemen Points
S30 | T-3rd in Defensemen Goals
S30 | 3rd in Blocked Shots
S31 | 2nd in Assists
S31 | 2nd in Defensemen Points
S31 | 4th in Blocked Shots
S32 | 2nd in Blocked Shots
S33 | 1st in Blocked Shots
S33 | 1st in Defenseman Points
S33 | 3rd in Defenseman Goals
S34 | 4th in Assists
S34 | 2nd in Blocked Shots
S34 | 4th in Defenseman Points
S35 | 2nd in Defenseman Points
S36 | 4th in Assists
S36 | 5th in Blocked Shots
S36 | T-1st in Defenseman Points
S36 | T-4th in Defensemen Goals
S37 | T-3rd in Assists
S37 | T-3rd in Defensemen Goals
S37 | 3rd in Defensemen Points
S40 | 1st in Defenseman Points
S40 | T-4th in Defensemen Goals
S40 | 1st in Plus/Minus
S41 | T-2nd in Power Play Goals
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SHL All-Star Selections
9x SHL 1st Team (S26, S27, S30, S31, S33, S35, S36, S37, S40)
2x SHL 2nd Team (S24, S34)
2x SHL 3rd Team (S29, S32)
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SHL Awards
5x Scott Stevens Trophy (S27, S31, S33, S37, S40)
1x Ron Mexico Trophy (S27)
Aidan Richan Trophy (S24)
1x Challenge Cup (S39)
5x Scott Stevens Nominee (S24, S26, S30, S35, S36)
1x Ron Mexico Nominee (S31)
3x Damian Littleton Nominee (S26, S31, S40)
1x Challenge Cup Finalist (S40)
Borromini Cannellini | C | Los Angeles Panthers
Age: 16
Height: 6'-4"
Weight: 210 lbs
Number: 17
Player Type: SNP
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SMJHL Regular Season Statistics (S45-S47)
VAN | GP: 150 | G: 51 | A: 69 | P: 120 | +/-: +37 | HIT: 153
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics (S45-S47)
VAN | GP: 27 | G: 11 | A: 10 | P: 21 | +/-: +5 | HIT: 24
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SHL Regular Season Statistics (S48-)
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SHL Playoff Statistics (--)
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IIHF Statistics (--)
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International Awards
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Transactions
S45 | Drafted 7th Overall to the Vancouver Whalers
S46 | Drafted 10th Overall to the Los Angeles Panthers
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Just Monika
12-27-2018, 08:56 AM ztevans Wrote: 12-26-2018, 04:04 PM ToeDragon84 Wrote: Fleming led the Jets for 6 seasons in a row, pretty consistent in his own right. Summing their career as one really good season in S34 is weak.
Also, since this was kinda brushed over (catching up from AWOL these past few days), it was not his first ballot. It was his third, which reads like the consensus on when Pedersen will get in from what I'm gathering in this thread?
Flemmy definitely wasn't around as long as Pedey, but even in that shorter span he had more PPG seasons and just as many 100+ hit seasons (with better numbers in those seasons). It's easy to say his MVP season was an aberration because it was his only award-winning season, but it ... really wasn't?
A more interesting argument re: these two players, honestly, would be ice time. How much did Flemmy's numbers benefit from playing sometimes 1400 minutes in a season when Nicky, even at his peak, topped out at 1272 in his last season as a Panther? A quick and dirty and hardly conclusive "pro-rating" of Pedey's stats in his peak seasons to play double-shift minutes doesn't quite get him to Flemmy's peak during that time, but it does get him into the 64-68 point range, and what's to say more time against third-liners wouldn't have accounted for a couple of extra points here and there?
I say all of this to say, just from my experience voting on awards (none whatsoever with HOF), it's rarely as simple as anyone will want you to think at first glance. I could go on and on dissecting various pros and cons for both of these guys - and that's not mentioning the dozens of other names up for the HOF each season, and the ones who will join that list next season and so on.
I did jump the gun comparing to flemmy, sure. I was mostly going by stats comparison and the way Wally made it seem like all the awards we're a big contributing factor, which werd all in s34.
Basically, Im just gonna blame @
Wally . :p
Still. Idk how Biscuit got in then first ballot. He only had littletons and Turds with a similar career.
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Just Monika
12-27-2018, 09:04 AM ArGarBarGar Wrote: Also, like I have said numerous times, getting more ice time doesn't mean you add the same P/20 average to the extra time. It isn't a linear deal.
Guys with fewer minutes would assuredly have more points, but there is no guarantee they would score at the same pace (or higher or lower), which makes it incredibly hard to really compare.
Eh... I think the whole p/20 thing is a little sillytbh. Punishing players for being too good so they stay on the ice. That doesn't factor anything to defense. Nobody is looking at Crosby and going "but yeah he played so many minutes"
I will also say again, since it looks like Manious didn't get enough love...
12-26-2018, 02:23 PM Slappydoodle Wrote: 12-20-2018, 03:56 PM Wally Wrote: With 26 and 24 votes, we unfortunately will not be inducting Big Manious nor Nicholas Pederson this season.
Good luck boys!
Y’all fucked up, plain and simple.
Look at how many votes those guys got. The bar is 35. Manious needed 9 and Pedersen needed 11. They are getting looks and are part of the conversation. Fleming had 5 votes in his first ballot. Lloren had 4. Clitsome had 5. All are currently in the HOF.
Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen):
2nd in Goals (208),
All-Time Assists Leader (765)*,
All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587),
All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)*
*All-Time Leader Among All Skaters
Player Profile |
Update Thread
Alonzo Garbanzo (Retired) | D | Minnesota Chiefs
Age: 41
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 185 lbs
Number: 2
Player Type: TWD
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SMJHL Regular Season Statistics (S20)
MTL | GP: 40 | G: 8 | A: 21 | P: 29 | +/-: +13 | SB: 62
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics (S20)
MTL | GP: 6 | G: 0 | A: 2 | P: 2 | +/-: -2 | SB: 9
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SHL Regular Season Statistics (S21-S43)
MIN | GP: 1158 | G: 200 | A: 750 | P: 950 | +/-: Even | HIT: 2538 | SB: 1807
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SHL Playoff Statistics (S21-S41)
MIN | GP: 139 | G: 20 | A: 89 | P: 109 | +/-: -19 | HIT: 291 | SB: 234
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IIHF Statistics (S21-S38)
SWE | GP: 211 | G: 36 | A: 125 | P: 161 | +/-: +16 | HIT: 553 | SB: 325
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International Awards
IIHF Gold Medal (S28, S29)
IIHF Silver Medal (S21, S27, S35)
IIHF Bronze Medal (S22, S23)
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Transactions
S20 | Drafted 3rd Overall to the Montreal Impact
S21 | Drafted 2nd Overall to the Minnesota Chiefs
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Notable Events
S21 | Named Alternate Captain of the Minnesota Chiefs
S23 | Named Captain of the Minnesota Chiefs
S24 | 4th in Assists
S24 | 4th in Defensemen Points
S26 | 1st in Assists
S26 | 1st in Defensemen Points
S26 | 2nd in Penalty Minutes
S27 | 1st in Defensemen Points
S27 | T-1st in Defensemen Goals
S27 | 1st in Blocked Shots
S27 | 2nd in Game-Tying Goals
S29 | 4th in Assists
S29 | 5th in Defensemen Points
S30 | 4th in Assists
S30 | 4th in Defensemen Points
S30 | T-3rd in Defensemen Goals
S30 | 3rd in Blocked Shots
S31 | 2nd in Assists
S31 | 2nd in Defensemen Points
S31 | 4th in Blocked Shots
S32 | 2nd in Blocked Shots
S33 | 1st in Blocked Shots
S33 | 1st in Defenseman Points
S33 | 3rd in Defenseman Goals
S34 | 4th in Assists
S34 | 2nd in Blocked Shots
S34 | 4th in Defenseman Points
S35 | 2nd in Defenseman Points
S36 | 4th in Assists
S36 | 5th in Blocked Shots
S36 | T-1st in Defenseman Points
S36 | T-4th in Defensemen Goals
S37 | T-3rd in Assists
S37 | T-3rd in Defensemen Goals
S37 | 3rd in Defensemen Points
S40 | 1st in Defenseman Points
S40 | T-4th in Defensemen Goals
S40 | 1st in Plus/Minus
S41 | T-2nd in Power Play Goals
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SHL All-Star Selections
9x SHL 1st Team (S26, S27, S30, S31, S33, S35, S36, S37, S40)
2x SHL 2nd Team (S24, S34)
2x SHL 3rd Team (S29, S32)
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SHL Awards
5x Scott Stevens Trophy (S27, S31, S33, S37, S40)
1x Ron Mexico Trophy (S27)
Aidan Richan Trophy (S24)
1x Challenge Cup (S39)
5x Scott Stevens Nominee (S24, S26, S30, S35, S36)
1x Ron Mexico Nominee (S31)
3x Damian Littleton Nominee (S26, S31, S40)
1x Challenge Cup Finalist (S40)
Borromini Cannellini | C | Los Angeles Panthers
Age: 16
Height: 6'-4"
Weight: 210 lbs
Number: 17
Player Type: SNP
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SMJHL Regular Season Statistics (S45-S47)
VAN | GP: 150 | G: 51 | A: 69 | P: 120 | +/-: +37 | HIT: 153
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics (S45-S47)
VAN | GP: 27 | G: 11 | A: 10 | P: 21 | +/-: +5 | HIT: 24
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SHL Regular Season Statistics (S48-)
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SHL Playoff Statistics (--)
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IIHF Statistics (--)
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International Awards
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Transactions
S45 | Drafted 7th Overall to the Vancouver Whalers
S46 | Drafted 10th Overall to the Los Angeles Panthers
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S32, S40, S42, S45 Challenge Cup Champion