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03-31-2020, 05:35 PMTommySalami Wrote: I'm sick, what's going on here, I've pretty much checked out.


Muted and Durden have the plan to get rid of grum tonight and "block" you, in order to hang you tomorrow as being wolves.

I'm countering because to me, stuff just doesn't add up and I'm saying you and grum are true blue villagers and Muted/Durden are actual werepeople + a turncoat out there.


that's the tl;dr

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03-31-2020, 05:25 PMDurden Wrote:
03-31-2020, 04:59 PMjfisherr Wrote: Say Grum’s a Vanillager, who are you changing your vote to then?

Geek is the only other one that isn't confirmed. He was uncontested hunter, and I'd like to think he is, as no one has countered.

Here's how I see it happening.

Grum hangs tonight. I block Tommy. No night kill.

Tomorrow, Tommy hangs. Village wins.

If that isn't the case, someone played a HELL of a game.

Tommy might be ww, but he's not alpha. Think we heavily consider Geek




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I can check Geek tonight instead of whoever else?

 
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03-31-2020, 05:37 PMjfisherr Wrote: So, ive had time to think this through.

I have a question for @Geekusoid and @TnlAstatine

This new theory all came about from the introduction of a new alpha right? That raised the alarms that perhaps muted and durden were playing this game too perfectly by claiming the Alpha was Tommy when there was no night kill, which gave them solid alibi and solid credibility to the rest of us villagers, when they are in fact wolves and could easily set Tommy up. That's where this whole theory originates approximately.

So, they've claimed Tommy is the alpha, but as they are TC and wolf, they know Nham is the true alpha. WHY on earth would they vote for Nham, knowing that they'd be killing the alpha and bringing them down to 1, maybe two wolves? Did they think Mook wouldn't let it sneakily be known that the alpha was killed? IF they played the game this smart and played us all, don't you think they'd have realized that based of the written flair Mook had when we killed Segi, that he would've somehow sneakily revealed that there was a new alpha? That's absolutely such a stupid colossal fucking mistake for two people who you two think are playing 7d chess at the moment. There's no way people who have played the game so smart supposedly would be dumb enough to realize that Mook wouldn't introduce a new alpha sneakily.

That's why I'm going back to my original thinking, and that I think they are right. I can't see two people, supposedly smart enough to realize one is wolf and one is TC, being dumb enough to vote and lynch the alpha wolf. It doesn't make sense.

there is no role reveals so why would mook use his story telling to reveal roles, when he did this he said he did it in the first post to get us started. again we don't know he was alpha

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03-31-2020, 05:36 PMTnlAstatine Wrote:
03-31-2020, 05:35 PMTommySalami Wrote: I'm sick, what's going on here, I've pretty much checked out.

rona?

I don't know man. I've had a cough on and off for like 3 weeks but it was manageable. Today all of a sudden it's a whole new beast. Chest pains, body pains, general weakness and nausea. It's been horrible. Idk how I could have contracted it as I've been self-isolating for 2+ weeks because of the cough.

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But Geeks sudden change of heart does make him sus suddenly.

Im going to read back on that whole hunter situation thing earlier this game.

 
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I mean, I can block Tommy or geek. Doesn't matter.


But when I blocked. Tommy, there was no night kill.

Alpha only changes when the alpha dies, unless @Mook is doing something different.

I think change of alpha is relying heavily on flavor text. Maybe it was just indication of a second wolf being alive?

Right now, I'm blocking Tommy. We can seer geek. I can block geek and seer Tommy. Either way, I feel confident the village will win.

Do we want to just hang Tommy and see if the game ends? Risk alpha switching and we don't know to who?

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and they only need one wolf to win, doesnt matter who else dies when they have everyone believing their tales

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03-31-2020, 05:43 PMTommySalami Wrote:
03-31-2020, 05:36 PMTnlAstatine Wrote: rona?

I don't know man. I've had a cough on and off for like 3 weeks but it was manageable. Today all of a sudden it's a whole new beast. Chest pains, body pains, general weakness and nausea. It's been horrible. Idk how I could have contracted it as I've been self-isolating for 2+ weeks because of the cough.

stay well my friend!

might just be unlucky timing

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03-31-2020, 05:41 PMMutedfaith Wrote: I can check Geek tonight instead of whoever else?

Probably the smart play. If hes clean, we know its Tommy or Swag as they would be the only unconfirmed.

Lynch Grum, block Tommy, spy Geek and pray theres no kill tn.




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03-31-2020, 05:38 PMGeekusoid Wrote:
03-31-2020, 05:35 PMTommySalami Wrote: I'm sick, what's going on here, I've pretty much checked out.


Muted and Durden have the plan to get rid of grum tonight and "block" you, in order to hang you tomorrow as being wolves.

I'm countering because to me, stuff just doesn't add up and I'm saying you and grum are true blue villagers and Muted/Durden are actual werepeople + a turncoat out there.


that's the tl;dr

I gave my theories yesterday, idk who's lying but A+ game. I'll keep trying to help out while I'm around but there's not much point in me continuing to try and prove my innocence. Either you believe me or you don't.

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03-31-2020, 05:37 PMjfisherr Wrote: So, ive had time to think this through.

I have a question for @Geekusoid and @TnlAstatine

This new theory all came about from the introduction of a new alpha right? That raised the alarms that perhaps muted and durden were playing this game too perfectly by claiming the Alpha was Tommy when there was no night kill, which gave them solid alibi and solid credibility to the rest of us villagers, when they are in fact wolves and could easily set Tommy up. That's where this whole theory originates approximately.

So, they've claimed Tommy is the alpha, but as they are TC and wolf, they know Nham is the true alpha. WHY on earth would they vote for Nham, knowing that they'd be killing the alpha and bringing them down to 1, maybe two wolves? Did they think Mook wouldn't let it sneakily be known that the alpha was killed? IF they played the game this smart and played us all, don't you think they'd have realized that based of the written flair Mook had when we killed Segi, that he would've somehow sneakily revealed that there was a new alpha? That's absolutely such a stupid colossal fucking mistake for two people who you two think are playing 7d chess at the moment. There's no way people who have played the game so smart supposedly would be dumb enough to realize that Mook wouldn't introduce a new alpha sneakily.

That's why I'm going back to my original thinking, and that I think they are right. I can't see two people, supposedly smart enough to realize one is wolf and one is TC, being dumb enough to vote and lynch the alpha wolf. It doesn't make sense.


Its a team game though..even if just 1 werewolf lives and all villagers die (turncoat included), they win.  So far, it seems we've been sacrificing villagers left and right (my hunter kill included) and luckily have found 2 werewolves in the process.  Its a martyr play, and I don't think its dumb...I think thats one hell of a play.   NHam even said that "our plan"....so segi was the first, he was the alpha...a new alpha came out last night.  

Durden keeps saying 100% that he blocked tommy and that tommy was the alpha...he still insists it but Nham was the alpha.  How can he block the alpha when the person he was blocking wasn't the alpha?


Right now, the plan they've been pushing for is still going to come to fruition.  Grum still has the majority vote to be lynched.   They can choose not to kill tonight to prove "tommy" was the alpha, despite his pleading from day 1 that he is not a werewolf....which based on last night I am completely inclined to believe at this point.


and as I've kept telling Muted and Durden...if they are correct, villagers win.
If I'm correct though, villagers win.
If I'm correct and muted and durden win...and I die (very soon)...and they keep their impressive persuasion up, WW wins.  Basic math still stands.  We have 2 WW, 7 villagers (including TC).  The TC can eventually be a sacrifice play.

It sounds like a dumb idea to sacrifice the "alpha" as a wolf....but this is the liars game of chess. Just like in actual chess, sometimes you have to sacrifice the queen (alpha) in order to win.

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03-31-2020, 05:44 PMDurden Wrote: I mean, I can block Tommy or geek. Doesn't matter.


But when I blocked. Tommy, there was no night kill.

Alpha only changes when the alpha dies, unless @Mook is doing something different.

I think change of alpha is relying heavily on flavor text. Maybe it was just indication of a second wolf being alive?

Right now, I'm blocking Tommy. We can seer geek. I can block geek and seer Tommy. Either way, I feel confident the village will win.

Do we want to just hang Tommy and see if the game ends? Risk alpha switching and we don't know to who?

Idk what to tell you, the text definitely indicated there's an alpha change. Every single text flair Mook has posted has indicated something.

1. Segi's blue eyes indicating WW, this almost everybody agrees on
2. Luke smiling at RED and only RED as he's about to hang, RED then ends up as jester kill
3. New howl sound as Nham has been hung, indicating new alpha has made the kill.

Tommy isn't the alpha, it was just a great move by the wolves to not have a kill that night. We should've seer'ed him nights ago.




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03-31-2020, 05:46 PMjfisherr Wrote:
03-31-2020, 05:41 PMMutedfaith Wrote: I can check Geek tonight instead of whoever else?

Probably the smart play. If hes clean, we know its Tommy or Swag as they would be the only unconfirmed.

Lynch Grum, block Tommy, spy Geek and pray theres no kill tn.


I actually think this is the best tactic.


Geek, you still haven't proposed what we should do. I don't know what you mean by "my way, we win"

I'm not sure what your way is.

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03-31-2020, 05:47 PMGeekusoid Wrote:
03-31-2020, 05:37 PMjfisherr Wrote: So, ive had time to think this through.

I have a question for @Geekusoid and @TnlAstatine

This new theory all came about from the introduction of a new alpha right? That raised the alarms that perhaps muted and durden were playing this game too perfectly by claiming the Alpha was Tommy when there was no night kill, which gave them solid alibi and solid credibility to the rest of us villagers, when they are in fact wolves and could easily set Tommy up. That's where this whole theory originates approximately.

So, they've claimed Tommy is the alpha, but as they are TC and wolf, they know Nham is the true alpha. WHY on earth would they vote for Nham, knowing that they'd be killing the alpha and bringing them down to 1, maybe two wolves? Did they think Mook wouldn't let it sneakily be known that the alpha was killed? IF they played the game this smart and played us all, don't you think they'd have realized that based of the written flair Mook had when we killed Segi, that he would've somehow sneakily revealed that there was a new alpha? That's absolutely such a stupid colossal fucking mistake for two people who you two think are playing 7d chess at the moment. There's no way people who have played the game so smart supposedly would be dumb enough to realize that Mook wouldn't introduce a new alpha sneakily.

That's why I'm going back to my original thinking, and that I think they are right. I can't see two people, supposedly smart enough to realize one is wolf and one is TC, being dumb enough to vote and lynch the alpha wolf. It doesn't make sense.


Its a team game though..even if just 1 werewolf lives and all villagers die (turncoat included), they win.  So far, it seems we've been sacrificing villagers left and right (my hunter kill included) and luckily have found 2 werewolves in the process.  Its a martyr play, and I don't think its dumb...I think thats one hell of a play.   NHam even said that "our plan"....so segi was the first, he was the alpha...a new alpha came out last night.  

Durden keeps saying 100% that he blocked tommy and that tommy was the alpha...he still insists it but Nham was the alpha.  How can he block the alpha when the person he was blocking wasn't the alpha?


Right now, the plan they've been pushing for is still going to come to fruition.  Grum still has the majority vote to be lynched.   They can choose not to kill tonight to prove "tommy" was the alpha, despite his pleading from day 1 that he is not a werewolf....which based on last night I am completely inclined to believe at this point.


and as I've kept telling Muted and Durden...if they are correct, villagers win.
If I'm correct though, villagers win.
If I'm correct and muted and durden win...and I die (very soon)...and they keep their impressive persuasion up, WW wins.  Basic math still stands.  We have 2 WW, 7 villagers (including TC).  The TC can eventually be a sacrifice play.

It sounds like a dumb idea to sacrifice the "alpha" as a wolf....but this is the liars game of chess. Just like in actual chess, sometimes you have to sacrifice the queen (alpha) in order to win.

IF you think muted and durden are teamed up as wolf and TC, who do you think is the last WW then?




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