The SHL's battle against TPE inflation.
Regression

TLDR: SHL Regression is a joke



162 to max one Attribute * 8 Total attributes = 1296 TPE
162 * 9 = 1458 for centres


Capped TPE: 30
Seasons to max out a player build if only using Capped TPE: 43.2 Seasons (48.6 for Centres)
Player Life Span (before regression): 10 Seasons
Ideal TPE Cap if vs Player Lifespan: 1458/10 = 146 TPE/Season



There are many people that think SHL regression is not punishing enough. We will be dong some calculations to see if the SHL regression is really not punishing enough and see what we can do to solve it:

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Calculation of SHL Regression

1st year regression: 5%

Basically a 5% regression. It looks like a small percentage. This is the first year so they might have thought, why not? Let's start something small. But the question is if the term "regression" really matters in the books of the SHL or if it's just there for the sake of being a "regression"

1000 TPE Regression = 50 TPE

Okay you might say, it's just 25 TPE difference but the truth is that the 1000 TPE player will have attributes on 99, and updating 1 attribute point from 90-99 is an 8TPE difference. This would be a total amount of 6.25 attribute points lost. That's not a lot of TPE lost. It's only the first season of regression but I would expect more than that. Basically when everything is said and done, there will be a whole ton of surplus of TPE when you subtract the amount they will be earning that season and the amount they lost.

The percentage of attribute points a player lose on their first regression if they have a full build is 6.25/392 = 2% of their total attribute points lost


2nd-4th year regression: 10%

It wouldn't be too difficult to earn back the 50 TPE that the player lost (around 333.3 average TPE people earn per season.) So we will be calculating this back to 1000 TPE

1000 TPE regression: 100TPE

This regression is harsher than before but we are with the same problem, the surplus of TPE is still above the decrease. Even if we are using ideal TPE per season, which is 170, that is still a 70 TPE surplus. These can be earned back for the entire season.

It still doesn't feel punishing and feels miniscule. If a player has 99 points in one attribute and decides to put his entire regression deduction to that attribute then it would be bumped down to around 87. That is a decrease of around 12. Now that would be a big drop if you are only decreasing one attribute but that is just one attribute. In reality, I don't think anyone will care for 12 attribute points. Those are miniscule amounts of attribute points. You have 392 attributes in total (counting only the important attributes). That is a decrease of 3%. Pretty big deal.

However, a bigger problem arises. They can spread it around their attributes to lose less attribute points. so if one is already at 90 (8*9=72 and 100-72=28 points to lose) they can use the remaining 28 TPE to reduce another attribute to 3.5. So in total it's a loss of only 11.5. While that is just a very minimal decrease of TPE, this is to keep in mind that this method is possible to decrease the actual amount of TPE lost.


5th-6th year regression: 12%

An increase of just 2% for the next tier of regression. That seems pretty silly.

1000 TPE regression: 120TPE

Just an increase of 20TPE deduction from previous season sounds like a small deal to anyone. Really that is a total deduction of only 15 TPE. That's putting one stat from 99-> 90 and another from 99-> 93. This is the third tier of regression and we are BARELY losing any TPE. It's a 0.04% regression. That's insane for what is supposed to be a third tier regression

It's a decrease of only 4% of attribute points if you have a full build.


7th-10th year regression: 15%

1000 TPE regression: 150 TPE

Just an increase of 30 TPE for the 4th level of regression. It's looking more and more like players can live for around 30 seasons with this system. To understand how crazy that is, SHL hasn't even arrived season 30. That's 18.75 attribute points worth of deduction from 99 to 90. That's two attributes down to 90. The problem is that this is the 7th to 10th year of regression and yet players still have 90s as their attributes. That's asinine.

It's a 5% decrease of attribute points if you have a full build

11th + year of regression: 20%

1000 TPE regression: 200TPE

This is the only season where regression actually matters. The regression is rounded up to 50TPE higher than the ideal TPE cap. It's the last tier of regression and it's the only season to have the regression actually matter. The conversion of 200 TPE to pure attribute points is (9*8=72*2=144, 200-144=56, 56/8 = 7, 8+8+7=) 25 TPE. Considering that this is the last stage of regression it's absurd how few TPEs are dropped off. Players will still be able to have a more than decent players with their attributes ranging from around 88 to 95.


It's only a 6% decrease of attribute points if you have full build.

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What we can get out of this data.

The data clearly indicates that the regression system that we have now is not punishing enough for players. The conversion to a percentage based system seems irrelevant. There was no point in choosing it this way since the people with a large number of TPE will not be losing much attribute points since the update scale is stacking (1-2-5-8)

We have learned that the current regression system is one of the reason why there are problems with the SHL TPE system; having players with all maxed out attributes. This is one of the reason why shl decided to implement an update scale in the first place. However, the update scale isn't doing what it is supposed to do and it isn't the fault of the update scale but the other factors that affects it.

We also have uncovered new problems such as players being able to outsustain the regression system and thus have players for possibly 30 seasons.

As we see from the previous reiteration of the update scale, we still have the same problems of having capped out TPE. But how is that possible when the TPE before hasn't reached this absurdly high.

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How to solve this issue.


Decrease by attribute points instead of TPE
The current system of percentage doesn't work because the attribute scale works exponentially. The players at 99 will not lose much because they would have to lose 8 TPE to lose 1 value of attributes. The players who are at 90, will lose 1 value of attributes per 5 TPE and the people below 80 will lose 1 value of attributes per 3 TPE. Since this is the case, the TPE amount shouldn't be accounted for in the regression and instead we just reduce it based on actual attribute points. Logically, this will make it fair for every player as everyone will be losing the same amount of attribute points.

The problems that will arise from this is basically non-existent. While the more TPE you have, you'll lose more TPE in this process, they will still be SHL capable players while players who have all 70s in their stats, shouldn't even be in the SHL in the first place. Really the argument of earning the TPE and thus deserve to have TPE lowered like everyone else is null because the "everyone else" isn't gonna be in the SHL because their attributes are so low.

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Cap out older players

Jack had a very good suggestion about capping out the total amount of attribute points a player can get up to. The problem with his suggestion is that as we can see above, players barely lose TPE so that means they will never be "below" 90 or 85 in their career because the TPE they lose is so low that they can just earn that back in a single season.

For this suggestion to work, at a point in their regression, if they are above 85, it'll have to drop down to 85. It will sound crazy because they will be losing so much TPE but that is the point of regression, it's not gradual, it's sudden. It's an exponential decrease with a very steep curve.

Decrease the number of TPE regressing players can earn

This is another good method for regressing players. Players nowadays have "banked TPE". This is a huge problem that is contributing to regression and makes them be able to probably sustain a player to around 50 seasons. The banked TPE needs to be tied in to the TPE cap and they will only be able to increase using their banked TPE until the TPE cap.

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Some suggestions to fix the TPE problem in general

Remove uncapped TPE altogether

One of Jesster's suggestion. This is a good one. One of the reason why players are maxing out fast in the first place even though we have changed the TPE update scale is because of uncapped TPE. The uncapped TPE from weekly training, training camp, and possibly equipments should be enough uncapped TPE.


A gradual decrease of TPE handout

We will not be able to fix this in one season. The average TPE handed out these past seasons has to be calculated and then we gradually decrease TPE for the next few seasons until we reach the point where the TPE handout is where we want it.

If the average TPE handout the past season was 200, the following season can be decreased to 150, then 100, then 50, etc.

This is so that new players will be good and we don't see a steep decline in players. Of course this is only effective if we fix regression since if the good players that are regressing keeps being good player that are regressing then there's no point.




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I dont think that getting rid of uncapped TPE is a good idea. The whole point of it is to reward the hardest working users in the league so that their effort makes their players standouts.

Other than that, a very intriguing and well researched article

Konrad Danke / C / 340 TPE / Texas / Maine / Czech
S54 Draft Class // Czech Republic


John Heimer-Schmidt // Former Whaler GM // Retired
The Greatest Shitstirrer of All Time


thanks @suavemente !

SHL is supposed to be the league where you don't have to put in a ton of effort to have a good player.
Getting rid of TPE and shortening players careers just makes us more like the VHL.

Which isn't a bad thing…not trying to start that argument, but there is a reason why the SHL has a larger member base.

all your doing by increasing regression is getting rid of the active members that don't have the desire to start over and make a new player.

if you do have that desire and your bored with your player because you're maxed out, guess what, you can re-create.

i honestly fail to see why having players with long careers negatively impacts the league.

Don't think I can join a league that limits career lengths

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Konrad Danke / C / 340 TPE / Texas / Maine / Czech
S54 Draft Class // Czech Republic


John Heimer-Schmidt // Former Whaler GM // Retired
The Greatest Shitstirrer of All Time


thanks @suavemente !

Originally posted by JHS@Jun 14 2015, 01:32 AM
Wow No Nerves with the Pentapost

Apparently I wanted to get my point across lol

I hope it doesn't happen in this post too

i wouldnt mind seeing 3 weaknesses tho.
would add a little more variety to player builds.

Not alot of people remember them or agree with me, but I liked the builds with max's we had when I joined, I believe we ditched them like a year or two after I joined. It actually made players look different and play semi different, mind you TPE was alot harder earned back then too so limits would be reached much faster

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Originally posted by #NoBradyNoBanner@Jun 13 2015, 09:39 PM
i wouldnt mind seeing 3 weaknesses tho.
would add a little more variety to player builds.

Agreed. Strength to Weakness ratio should be 1:1, IMO.

KARI KEKKONEN | D | RETIRED
NAME: Kari Kekkonen
BIRTHPLACE: Oulu, Finland
HEIGHT: 6'1"
WEIGHT: 185 lbs
NUMBER: 33
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SMJHL CAREER STATS
S19 KEL: GP: 40, G: 10, A: 26, P: 36, +/-: 16, H: 42

SMJHL PLAYOFF STATS
S19 KEL: GP: 6, G: 0, A: 6, P: 6, +/-: 0, H: 6
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KAAPO KEKKONEN | C | RETIRED
NAME: Kaapo Kekkonen
BIRTHPLACE: Helsinki, Finland
HEIGHT: 6'3"
WEIGHT: 210 lbs
NUMBER: 19
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SHL CAREER STATS
S25 LAP: GP: 50, G: 2, A: 3, P: 5, +/-: -4, H: 75
S26 LAP: GP: 50, G: 4, A: 5, P: 9, +/-: -13, H: 94
S27 LAP: GP: 50, G: 6, A: 9, P: 15, +/-: -2, H: 35
S28 LAP: GP: 50, G: 7, A: 10, P: 17, +/-: -2, H: 96
S29 LAP: GP: 50, G: 13, A: 21, P: 34, +/-: -15, H: 85
S30 LAP: GP: 50, G: 23, A: 22, P: 45, +/-: 4, H: 130
S31 LAP: GP: 50, G: 20, A: 18, P: 38, +/-: 5, H: 162
S32 LAP: GP: 50, G: 18, A: 28, P: 46, +/-: 27, H: 183
S33 LAP: GP: 50, G: 17, A: 22, P: 39, +/-: 20, H: 210
S34 LAP: GP: 50, G: 12, A: 25, P: 37, +/-: -2, H: 131
S35 LAP: GP: 50, G: 10, A: 22, P: 32, +/-: -3, H: 115
S36 LAP: GP: 50, G: 11, A: 20, P: 31, +/-: 10, H: 138
S37 LAP: GP: 36, G: 9, A: 17, P: 26, +/-: -1, H: 72
S37 WKP: GP: 14, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -4, H: 19
TOT : GP: 650, G: 153, A: 222, P: 375, +/-: 20, H: 1545
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SHL PLAYOFF STATS
S25 LAP: DNQ
S26 LAP: DNQ
S27 LAP: DNQ
S28 LAP: DNQ
S29 LAP: DNQ
S30 LAP: DNQ
S31 LAP: DNQ
S32 LAP: GP: 5, G: 1, A: 3, P: 4, +/-: -2, H: 15
S33 LAP: GP: 12, G: 2, A: 3, P: 5, +/-: 0, H: 38
S34 LAP: GP: 7, G: 1, A: 3, P: 4, +/-: 3, H: 23
S35 LAP: GP: 5, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: -4, H: 4
S36 LAP: DNQ
S37 WKP: GP: 12, G: 0, A: 2, P: 2, +/-: -2, H: 35
TOT : GP: 41, G: 5, A: 12, P: 17, +/-: -5, H: 115
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TATU MÄKELÄ | D | RETIRED
NAME: Tatu Mäkelä
BIRTHPLACE: Tampere, Finland
HEIGHT: 5'11"
WEIGHT: 180 lbs
NUMBER: 65
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SHL CAREER STATS
S40 BUF: GP: 50, G: 5, A: 17, P: 22, +/-: -28, H: 14, SB: 86
S41 BUF: GP: 50, G: 10, A: 21, P: 31, +/-: -3, H: 9, SB: 78
S42 BUF: GP: 50, G: 9, A: 21, P: 30, +/-: 2, H: 13, SB: 65
S43 BUF: GP: 50, G: 6, A: 24, P: 30, +/-: 1, H: 8, SB: 51
S44 BUF: GP: 50, G: 6, A: 28, P: 34, +/-: -6, H: 10, SB: 63
S45 BUF: GP: 50, G: 4, A: 37, P: 41, +/-: 10, H: 130, SB: 71
S46 BUF: GP: 50, G: 6, A: 36, P: 42, +/-: 25, H: 139, SB: 73
S47 BUF: GP: 50, G: 5, A: 23, P: 28, +/-: -4, H: 137, SB: 76
S48 BUF: GP: 50, G: 7, A: 25, P: 32, +/-: 9, H: 151, SB: 70
S49 BUF: GP: 50, G: 6, A: 22, P: 28, +/-: 5, H: 159, SB: 66
S50 BUF: GP: 50, G: 6, A: 20, P: 26, +/-: 14, H: 152, SB: 72
S51 BUF: GP: 50, G: 3, A: 23, P: 26, +/-: 8, H: 143, SB: 50
S52 BUF: GP: 50, G: 9, A: 21, P: 30, +/-: -3, H: 141, SB: 71
S53 BUF: GP: 50, G: 5, A: 14, P: 19, +/-: 23, H: 50, SB: 98
TOT : GP: 700, G: 87, A: 332, P: 419, +/-: 53, H: 1256, SB: 990
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SHL PLAYOFF STATS
S40 BUF: DNQ
S41 BUF: GP: 7, G: 3, A: 2, P: 5, +/-: -3, H: 0, SB: 10
S42 BUF: GP: 5, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -9, H: 2, SB: 10
S43 BUF: GP: 9, G: 0, A: 5, P: 5, +/-: -1, H: 1, SB: 8
S44 BUF: DNQ
S45 BUF: DNQ
S46 BUF: GP: 17, G: 0, A: 12, P: 12, +/-: 11, H: 59, SB: 28
S47 BUF: GP: 13, G: 0, A: 5, P: 5, +/-: 2, H: 32, SB: 18
S48 BUF: GP: 22, G: 2, A: 10, P: 12, +/-: 2, H: 64, SB: 32
S49 BUF: GP: 5, G: 0, A: 5, P: 5, +/-: 5, H: 15, SB: 8
S50 BUF: GP: 6, G: 0, A: 5, P: 5, +/-: -2, H: 18, SB: 12
S51 BUF: GP: 8, G: 2, A: 5, P: 7, +/-: -3, H: 15, SB: 11
S52 BUF: GP: 15, G: 4, A: 5, P: 9, +/-: 4, H: 47, SB: 26
S53 BUF: GP: 4, G: 0, A: 0, P: 0, +/-: 0, H: 6, SB: 13
TOT : GP: 111, G: 11, A: 55, P: 66, +/-: 6, H: 159, SB: 176
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KOLJA KEKKONEN | D | RETIRED
NAME: Kolja Kekkonen
BIRTHPLACE: Lappeenranta, Finland
HEIGHT: 6'3"
WEIGHT: 225 lbs
NUMBER: 8
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SMJHL CAREER STATS
S53 DET: GP: 3, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -1, H: 2, SB: 0
S54 DET: GP: 50, G: 2, A: 8, P: 10, +/-: -6, H: 15, SB: 37
S55 DET: GP: 50, G: 4, A: 12, P: 16, +/-: -24, H: 32, SB: 24
S56 DET: GP: 50, G: 4, A: 17, P: 21, +/-: -20, H: 52, SB: 71
S57 ANA: GP: 66, G: 6, A: 20, P: 26, +/-: 14, H: 52, SB: 70
TOT : GP: 219, G: 16, A: 58, P: 74, +/-: -37, H: 153, SB: 202
SMJHL PLAYOFF STATS
S53 DET: DNP
S54 DET: GP: 7, G: 0, A: 0, P: 0, +/-: 0, H: 2, SB: 3
S55 DET: GP: 4, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -2, H: 3, SB: 0
S56 DET: GP: 5, G: 2, A: 2, P: 4, +/-: 0, H: 3, SB: 7
S57 ANA: GP: 21, G: 2, A: 13, P: 15, +/-: 5, H: 13, SB: 34
TOT : GP: 37, G: 4, A: 16, P: 20, +/-: 3, H: 22, SB: 44
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KEKW KEKKONEN | C | RETIRED
NAME: Karl-Erik-Karl2-Wojtek Kekkonen
BIRTHPLACE: Lohja, Finland
HEIGHT: 6'4"
WEIGHT: 220 lbs
NUMBER: 69
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SHL CAREER STATS
S61 BUF: GP: 66, G: 10, A: 28, P: 38, +/-: 21, H: 59, SH: 134
S62 BUF: GP: 66, G: 19, A: 36, P: 55, +/-: 9, H: 84, SH: 194
S63 BUF: GP: 66, G: 17, A: 14, P: 31, +/-: -13, H: 91, SH: 148
S64 BUF: GP: 66, G: 16, A: 51, P: 67, +/-: 36, H: 82, SH: 212
S65 BUF: GP: 66, G: 25, A: 41, P: 66, +/-: 33, H: 136, SH: 230
S66 BUF: GP: 66, G: 38, A: 43, P: 81, +/-: 18, H: 64, SH: 222
S67 BUF: GP: 66, G: 40, A: 45, P: 85, +/-: -6, H: 76, SH: 224
S68 BUF: GP: 66, G: 47, A: 46, P: 93, +/-: 45, H: 51, SH: 326
S69 BUF: GP: 66, G: 35, A: 31, P: 66, +/-: 22, H: 43, SH: 269
S70 BUF: GP: 66, G: 33, A: 48, P: 81, +/-: 18, H: 66, SH: 297
S71 BUF: GP: 66, G: 36, A: 41, P: 77, +/-: 37, H: 55, SH: 257
S72 BUF: GP: 66, G: 25, A: 35, P: 60, +/-: -1, H: 58, SH: 281
S73 BUF: GP: 66, G: 31, A: 41, P: 72, +/-: 23, H: 48, SH: 305
S74 BUF/WPG: GP: 66, G: 17, A: 47, P: 64, +/-: 33, H: 101, SH: 164
TOT : GP: 924, G: 389, A: 547, P: 936, +/-: 275, H: 1014, SH: 3263
SHL PLAYOFF STATS
S61 BUF: GP: 9, G: 2, A: 6, P: 8, +/-: 4, H: 11, SH: 24
S62 BUF: GP: 9, G: 3, A: 1, P: 4, +/-: 2, H: 5, SH: 25
S63 BUF: GP: 12, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -1, H: 32, SH: 33
S64 BUF: GP: 11, G: 2, A: 2, P: 4, +/-: -6, H: 12, SH: 41
S65 BUF: GP: 18, G: 4, A: 7, P: 11, +/-: 8, H: 34, SH: 62
S66 BUF: GP: 16, G: 11, A: 9, P: 20, +/-: 3, H: 13, SH: 49
S67 BUF: GP: 4, G: 2, A: 2, P: 4, +/-: -3, H: 3, SH: 20
S68 BUF: GP: 17, G: 6, A: 8, P: 14, +/-: -4, H: 11, SH: 75
S69 BUF: GP: 4, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -5, H: 2, SH: 13
S70 BUF: GP: 7, G: 1, A: 3, P: 4, +/-: -8, H: 2, SH: 25
S71 BUF: GP: 21, G: 12, A: 9, P: 21, +/-: 6, H: 24, SH: 97
S72 BUF: GP: 5, G: 0, A: 2, P: 2, +/-: -4, H: 7, SH: 25
S73 BUF: GP: 6, G: 3, A: 0, P: 3, +/-: -3, H: 11, SH: 33
S74 WPG: GP: 22, G: 3, A: 4, P: 7, +/-: -2, H: 15, SH: 37
TOT : GP: 161, G: 51, A: 55, P: 106, +/-: -11, H: 182, SH: 559
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KAL ÅKAR KEKKONEN | D | SEATTLE ARGONAUTS
NAME: Kal Åkar Kekkonen
BIRTHPLACE: The Wilderness, Gielinor
HEIGHT: 6'6"
WEIGHT: 240 lbs
NUMBER: 75
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SMJHL CAREER STATS
S74 DET: GP: 66, G: 6, A: 14, P: 20, +/-: 3, SH: 83, H: 76, SB: 29
S75 DET: GP: 66, G: 8, A: 22, P: 30, +/-: 31, SH: 129, H: 123, SB: 114
S76 DET: GP: 66, G: 17, A: 21, P: 38, +/-: -10, SH: 193, H: 74, SB: 130

SMJHL PLAYOFF STATS
S74 DET: GP: 17, G: 3, A: 7, P: 10, +/-: 8, SH: 18, H: 16, SB: 5
S75 DET: GP: 14, G: 5, A: 6, P: 11, +/-: 2, SH: 40, H: 26, SB: 27
S76 DET: GP: 4, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -2, SH: 8, H: 8, SB: 8
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Originally posted by #NoBradyNoBanner@Jun 13 2015, 09:39 PM
i wouldnt mind seeing 3 weaknesses tho.
would add a little more variety to player builds.

That could be cool.

Andrew James - Retired Defenseman - Edmonton Comets

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Position: Left Defense
Handedness: Left
Jersey Number: 11
Height: 5ft 10in
Weight: 175 lbs
Birthplace: Colorado, United States
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SMJHL CAREER STATISTICS
S77 | NL | GP: 60 | G: 10 | A: 35 | P: 45 | ATOI: 16:10 | +13 |
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SMJHL PLAYOFF STATISTICS
S77 | NL | GP: 5 | G: 0 | A: 1 | P: 1 | ATOI: 21:13 | -6 |
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TRANSACTIONS & ACHIEVEMENTS
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S77 | Claimed by Newfoundland (Waivers)
S78 | Position Change (Center > Defense)

I don't understand why a more difficult update scale isn't a potential solution. Like actually make it difficult to get to 90 in something.

Also like the 3 weaknesses idea.

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Originally posted by Baelor Swift@Jun 13 2015, 05:50 PM
I don't understand why a more difficult update scale isn't a potential solution. Like actually make it difficult to get to 90 in something.

Also like the 3 weaknesses idea.

That's not the solution to the problem. We've done that twice already, but we still have the same problem.

Andreas Kvalheim | LW | Toronto North Stars
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SHL Regular Season Statistics
S47 TEX||GP: 50|G: 11|A: 11|P: 22|+/-: 5|PIM: 30|SOG: 88|HIT: 57|
SHL Career Statistics
TBD
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SHL Playoff Statistics
SHL Career Playoff Statistics
TBD
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SMJHL Regular Season Statistics
S44 MTL||GP: 50|G: 7|A: 11|P: 18|+/-: 0|PIM: 32|SOG: 75|HIT: 57|
S45 MTL||GP: 50|G: 16|A: 19|P: 35|+/-: 13|PIM: 45|SOG: 120|HIT: 109|
S46 MTL||GP: 50|G: 17|A: 14|P: 31|+/-: 1|PIM: 48|SOG: 130|HIT: 119| 
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics
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Transactions:
S44 - Drafted 1st round, 3rd overall by the Montreal Militia
S44 - Signed 1 year, $2M contract with the Montreal Militia
S45 - Drafted 1st round, 2nd overall by the Texas Renegades
S45 - Signed 3 year, $8M contract with the Texas Renegades
S48 - Signed 3 year, $12M contract with the Texas Renegades
S51 - Signed 4 year, $24M contract with the Texas Renegades
S55 - Signed 4 year, $20M contract with the Texas Renegades
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Awards/Achievements:
S45 - World Junior Championships Gold
S46 - World Junior Championships Silver
S50 - Jeff Dar Trophy
S52 - SHL Third Team All-Star
S54 - Jeff Dar Trophy
S54 - SHL Third Team All-Star
S55 - Jeff Dar Trophy
S56 - Jeff Dar Trophy
S59 - Challenge Cup
S59 - IIHF Bronze Medal
S62 - Challenge Cup
S65 - IIHF Bronze Medal
S66 - IIHF Bronze Medal
S67 - IIHF Gold Medal
S71 - IIHF Bronze Medal
S72 - IIHF Silver Medal


Kristian Eriksson | RW | Retired | Hall of Fame
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Height: 6'2"
Weight: 203 lbs
Number: 3
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SHL Regular Season Statistics
S21 TOR||GP: 52|G: 14|A: 19|P: 33|+/-: 7|PIM: 43|Shots: 159|H: 86|
S22 TOR||GP: 52|G: 17|A: 10|P: 27|+/-: -7|PIM: 38|Shots: 136|H: 99|
S23 TOR||GP: 52|G: 20|A: 19|P: 39|+/-: -3|PIM: 62|Shots: 159|H: 101|
S24 TOR||GP: 52|G: 19|A: 22|P: 41|+/-: -8|PIM: 91|Shots: 195|H: 129|
S25 TOR||GP: 50|G: 21|A: 29|P: 50|+/-: 2|PIM: 52|Shots: 181|H: 157|
S26 TOR||GP: 50|G: 13|A: 24|P: 37|+/-: -2|PIM: 77|Shots: 141|H: 144|
S27 TOR||GP: 50|G: 16|A: 19|P: 35|+/-: 4|PIM: 69|Shots: 166|H: 119|
S28 TOR||GP: 50|G: 24|A: 21|P: 45|+/-: 16|PIM: 43|Shots: 212|H: 108|
S29 TOR||GP: 50|G: 20|A: 16|P: 36|+/-: -5|PIM: 52|Shots: 219|H: 153|
S30 TOR||GP: 50|G: 24|A: 28|P: 52|+/-: 16|PIM: 54|Shots: 228|H: 212|
S31 TOR||GP: 50|G: 27|A: 35|P: 62|+/-: 19|PIM: 58|Shots: 229|H: 167|
S32 TOR||GP: 50|G: 23|A: 18|P: 41|+/-: -7|PIM: 44|Shots: 232|H: 212|
S33 TOR||GP: 50|G: 24|A: 19|P: 43|+/-: 4|PIM: 53|Shots: 205|H: 213|
S34 TOR||GP: 50|G: 25|A: 18|P: 43|+/-: 9|PIM: 65|Shots: 224|H: 187|
S35 TOR||GP: 50|G: 16|A: 20|P: 36|+/-: -1|PIM: 32|Shots: 187|H: 92|
S36 TOR||GP: 50|G: 20|A: 19|P: 39|+/-: -1|PIM: 4|Shots: 233|H: 18|
S37 TOR||GP: 50|G: 21|A: 34|P: 55|+/-: 2|PIM: 24|Shots: 219|H: 66|
S38 TOR||GP: 50|G: 27|A: 29|P: 56|+/-: -15|PIM: 5|Shots: 246|H: 32|
S39 TOR||GP: 50|G: 31|A: 32|P: 63|+/-: 11|PIM: 4|Shots: 270|H: 12|
S40 TOR||GP: 50|G: 26|A: 33|P: 59|+/-: 16|PIM: 4|Shots: 218|H: 12|
S41 TOR||GP: 50|G: 19|A: 23|P: 42|+/-: -7|PIM: 6|Shots: 178|H: 35|
S42 TOR||GP: 50|G: 18|A: 11|P: 29|+/-: -13|PIM: 12|Shots: 136|H: 38|
S43 TOR||GP: 50|G: 11|A: 9|P: 20|+/-: -20|PIM: 6|Shots: 117|H: 34|
S44 TOR||GP: 50|G: 13|A: 16|P: 29|+/-: 17|PIM: 6|Shots: 107|H: 45|
SHL Career Statistics
GP: 1208|G: 489|A: 523|P: 1012|+/-: 34|PIM: 904|Shots: 4597|H: 2471|
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SHL Playoff Statistics
S21 TOR||GP: 7|G: 3|A: 2|P: 5|+/-: 1|PIM: 0|Shots: 26|H: 15|
S24 TOR||GP: 7|G: 3|A: 3|P: 6|+/-: 3|PIM: 21|Shots: 26|H: 16|
S26 TOR||GP: 14|G: 4|A: 9|P: 13|+/-: 6|PIM: 24|Shots: 57|H: 60|
S27 TOR||GP: 9|G: 2|A: 3|P: 5|+/-: 0|PIM: 10|Shots: 29|H: 23|
S28 TOR||GP: 5|G: 2|A: 0|P: 2|+/-: 4|PIM: 4|Shots: 25|H: 7|
S29 TOR||GP: 11|G: 2|A: 5|P: 7|+/-: -1|PIM: 6|Shots: 41|H: 29|
S31 TOR||GP: 12|G: 7|A: 5|P: 12|+/-: 3|PIM: 12|Shots: 63|H: 36|
S33 TOR||GP: 11|G: 7|A: 10|P: 17|+/-: 5|PIM: 8|Shots: 54|H: 51|
S34 TOR||GP: 7|G: 0|A: 5|P: 5|+/-: -5|PIM: 4|Shots: 33|H: 20|
S35 TOR||GP: 17|G: 10|A: 10|P: 20|+/-: -3|PIM: 2|Shots: 82|H: 37|
S36 TOR||GP: 6|G: 2|A: 3|P: 5|+/-: 0|PIM: 0|Shots: 28|H: 5|
S37 TOR||GP: 18|G: 3|A: 8|P: 11|+/-: -4|PIM: 8|Shots: 80|H: 27|
S44 TOR||need to add
SHL Career Playoff Statistics
GP: 124|G: 45|A: 63|P: 108|+/-: 9|PIM: 99|Shots: 544|H: 326|
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SMJHL Regular Season Statistics
S19 KEL||GP: 40|G: 14|A: 12|P: 26|+/-: -4|PIMS: 6|Shots: 86|H: 21|
S20 KEL||GP: 40|G: 13|A: 22|P: 35|+/-: 6|PIMS: 4|Shots: 140|H: 21|
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics
S19 KEL||GP: 6|G: 2|A: 1|P: 3|+/-: -2|PIMS: 0|Shots: 14|H: 1|
S20 KEL||GP: 17|G: 11|A: 9|P: 20|+/-: 6|PIMS: 4|Shots: 57|H: 5|
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Transactions:
S19 - Drafted 1st round, 6th overall by the Kelowna Knights
S19 - Signed 1 year, $2M contract with Kelowna
S20 - Drafted 2nd round, 13th overall by the Toronto North Stars 
S20 - Signed 3 year, $7.5M contract with Toronto
S23 - Signed 4 year, $14M contract with Toronto
S27 - Signed 5 year, $10M contract with Toronto
S32 - Signed 4 year, $15M contract with Toronto
S36 - Signed 3 year, $15M contract with Toronto
S39 - Signed 2 year, $12M contract with Toronto
S41 - Signed 2 year, $7M contract with Toronto
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Awards/Achievements:
S19 - Michael Astorino Award (Hardest Working Player - Kelowna Knights)
S19 - Zach Miller Trophy Finalist
S20 - John McBride Award (Playoff MVP - Kelowna Knights)
S20 - Ronan O'Keefe Trophy (Leading Scorer in the SMJHL Playoffs)
S21 - IHF World Championships Silver Medal
S22 - IHF World Championships Bronze Medal
S23 - IHF World Championships Bronze Medal
S24 - Named Captain of the Toronto North Stars
S24 - All-Star Game Starter
S25 - First Team All-Star
S25 - Jeff Dar Trophy Finalist
S27 - IHF World Championships Silver Medal
S28 - IHF World Championships Gold Medal
S29 - IHF World Championships Gold Medal
S30 - Third Team All-Star
S31 - First Team All-Star
S31 - Jeff Dar Trophy Finalist
S31 - Ron Mexico Trophy
S35 - Challenge Cup
S35 - Anton Razov Trophy
S37 - Third Team All-Star
S39 - First Team All-Star
S39 - Jay McDonald Trophy
S40 - First Team All-Star
S44 - First player in SHL history to reach 1000 points
S46 - Inducted into SHL Hall of Fame


Raymond Lindsay | RW | Retired | Hall of Fame
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 207 lbs
Number: 7
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NWJHL Career Statistics
S2 ANA||GP: 30|G: 29|A: 24|P: 53|+/-: 12|PIMS: 34|Shots: 117|H: 45|SB: 8|
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NWJHL Playoff Statistics
S2 ANA||GP: 7|G: 5|A: 5|P: 10|+/-: 1|PIMS: 20|Shots:20|H: 6|SB: 2|
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SHL Statistics
S3 HAM||GP: 40|G: 14|A: 5|P: 19|+/-: 0|PIMS: 60|Shots: 82|H: 60|SB: 10|    
S4 HAM||GP: 40|G: 11|A: 9|P: 20|+/-: 0|PIMS: 16|Shots: 98|H: 54|SB: 19|  
S5 HAM||GP: 40|G: 16|A: 16|P: 32|+/-: 11|PIMS: 32|Shots: 161|H: 60|SB: 10|
S6 HAM||GP: 60|G: 26|A: 29|P: 55|+/-: 8|PIMS: 20|Shots: 247|H: 95|SB: 46|
S7 HAM||GP: 50|G: 15|A: 30|P: 45|+/-: -3|PIMS: 27|Shots: 192|H: 78|SB: 24|
S8 HAM||GP: 50|G: 21|A: 20|P: 41|+/-: -3|PIMS: 126|Shots: 174|H: 61|SB: 14|
S9 HAM||GP: 50|G: 25|A: 34|P: 59|+/-: 24|PIMS: 56|Shots: 123|H: 104|SB: 17|
S10 HAM||GP: 50|G: 16|A: 39|P: 55|+/-: 23|PIMS: 63|Shots: 118|H: 87|SB: 14|
S11 HAM||GP: 50|G: 21|A: 22|P: 43|+/-: 8|PIMS: 46|Shots: 91|H: 91|SB: 9|
S12 HAM||GP: 50|G: 12|A: 11|P: 23|+/-: 4|PIMS: 12|Shots: 111|H: 34|SB: 2|
S13 HAM/CAL||GP: 50|G: 13|A: 14|P: 27|+/-: 6|PIMS: 10|Shots: 107|H: 42|SB: 1|
S14 CAL||GP: 50|G: 5|A: 3|P: 8|+/-: -4|PIMS: 14|Shots: 49|H: 94|SB: 3|
SHL Career Statistics
GP: 580|G: 195|A: 232|P: 427|+/-: 74|PIMS: 482|Shots: 1553|H: 860|SB: 169|  
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SHL Playoff Statistics
S3 HAM||GP: 15|G: 4|A: 5|P: 9|+/-: 1|PIMS: 12|Shots:50|H: 26|SB: 9|
S4 HAM||GP: 5|G: 1|A: 1|P: 2|+/-: -1|PIMS: 0|Shots:10|H: 3|SB: 2|
S5 HAM||GP: 12|G: 5|A: 3|P: 8|+/-: 4|PIMS: 18|Shots:49|H: 20|SB: 3|
S7 HAM||GP: 14|G: 4|A: 5|P: 9|+/-: 0|PIMS: 18|Shots:49|H: 17|SB: 5|
S11 HAM||GP: 15|G: 6|A: 10|P: 16|+/-: 0|PIMS: 25|Shots:34|H: 24|SB: 2|
S12 HAM||GP: 5|G: 2|A: 3|P: 5|+/-: -1|PIMS: 0|Shots:13|H: 2|SB: 0|
SHL Career Playoff Statistics
GP: 46|G: 14|A: 14|P: 28|+/-: 4|PIMS: 48|Shots: 158|H: 66|SB: 19|
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Transactions:
Drafted 26th overall by Anaheim in the S2 NWJHL Draft
Drafted 3rd overall by Hamilton in the S3 SHL Entry Draft
Signed a 3 Year/12 Million contract with Hamilton
Signed a 2 Year/8 Million extension with Hamilton
Modified contract to 2mil per year
Signed a 5 Year/2.5 Million extension with Hamilton
Traded to Calgary in S13
Retired at end of S14
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Awards/Achievements:
S2 NWJHL All-Star
S2 Aaron Brown Trophy
S2 Drayson Williams Trophy Winner
S3 Calder Trophy Winner
SHL All-Star S5, S6, S7, S8
IHF Team Canada S4, S5, S6, S7, S8
S4 IHF Silver
Prince George Firebirds GM S4-S5, Co-GM S9-S10
S4 Four Star Cup (GM)
S5 IHF Gold
Hamilton Steelhawks GM S5-S8
S6 IHF Gold
S7 IHF Gold
S11 Challenge Cup
Retired ~15th in all-time scoring
S20- Inducted into Steelhawks Hall of Fame
S22- Inducted into SHL Hall of Fame

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Originally posted by Baelor Swift@Jun 13 2015, 08:50 PM
I don't understand why a more difficult update scale isn't a potential solution. Like actually make it difficult to get to 90 in something.

Also like the 3 weaknesses idea.

The thing is we've done the update scale twice, both times it seemed more TPE got handed out again. So it just nullified all the work guys did

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Originally posted by JHS@Jun 13 2015, 08:24 PM
I dont think that getting rid of uncapped TPE is a good idea. The whole point of it is to reward the hardest working users in the league so that their effort makes their players standouts.

Other than that, a very intriguing and well researched article

I understand the standpoint but that hard work is supposed to be what point tasks are. There is a ton of tpe being handed out for everything, not entirely for hard work. Make PTs harder, and if you remove uncapped, capped tpe has to go up a bit. Also maybe money can have a little bit more value.

Overall there is too much tpe flying out, needs to be more difficult to earn.

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Ryan Jesster - HoF Goalie (S1-S14)
Proud Calgary Dragon Alumni 
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