My religious friends? I'm catholic, but I'm not overly religious. I went to public school all my life. I've never read the bible. I've never even really studied the religion at all. I couldn't give you three Saints and their names. But I do believe in God. Stop making me out to be one of those preachers. One thing I can't stand are those atheists who mock religion and act like elitist ****s like they're smarter because they don't have religion.
The theory of there being a God is just as valid than everything including life, planets, and the universe coming from absolutely nothing. How retarded does it sound that in the theory of evolution, humans originated from a pre-biotic soup that got hit by lightning a bunch of times?
I have my own thoughts and theories and I do believe in some parts of evolution. Definitely not the whole thing. Same goes with religion.[/b]
Quality understanding of evolution.
<!--QuoteBegin-Wheelz@May 22 2012, 05:07 AM Back onto the topic of gay marriage though. I think it would help their cause if they represents themselves in a respectful manner. If they just toned it down and acted with class, I'm sure it would help their cause. Instead you see dudes in pink yoga pants and sparkly scarves prancing down the street and talking like complete retards. Do you expect to get anywhere acting like that? How is anyone suppose to take you seriously?[/quote]
You're tarring them all with the same brush here. There are countless gays who don't act in the way you described, but even if they did, why does that matter? And on a slightly lighter, non-serious note, you have seen the hat that the Pope wears right? How is anyone supposed to take him seriously?
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Quote:Originally posted by Wheelz@May 21 2012, 01:26 PM For me, I don't really care. I'm a Catholic but I wouldn't say I'm against it. It just creeps me out and I don't like the way some of the flamboyant gay guys act. I don't care if you like penis or vagina, if anyone acts like that I want to punch you in the face lol.
So acting the way you really are offends you. I suppose you don't mind when a girl kisses a guy in the street am I right? That is normal and isn't frowned upon. Do you equally find it creepy when a woman acts masculine? If not then politely take your double standard and well...you know what to do with it.
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What also bugs me is how some atheists only use science in arguments that support their argument. If you are going by science when talking about homosexuals, two males or two females are not supposed to be together in nature. We are not designed that way.
Not supposed to be? Please tell me you are not serious. There has been enormous amounts of documented cases in nature of certain species of animal engaging in homosexuality. Homosexuality is not unique to the human race and saying what you just did shows your obvious ignorance on the matter.
So to educate you. I suggest you read up on the following links.
Quote:A male and a female are meant to be together and reproduce.
According to whom? Care to find me a reference in the Bible that explicitly states such? I will save you the trouble and the time because I have read the Bible (including that nasty Leviticus book so many theists are so prone not to follow completely.)
But, No. Jesus, not even once referred to homosexuality in the Bible. There are no references in there to him saying ANYTHING about homosexuality.
If you want, you can use the "Man should not lay with a man as with a woman" argument that is interpreted as being against homosexuality.
Oh drat, that is from Leviticus 18:22. The same book which holds the following passages.
Leviticus 21:17 Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.
What this means, is that anyone handicapped, with prosthetic legs and yes, even eye glasses. May not approach God for they are blemished.
Leviticus 15:24
And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean.
If you have a girlfriend, fiancee or wife. It is a sin to lay in the same bed as her if she is menstruating. Looks like you will be sleeping on the couch every now and again. Better make sure you and her haven't set on it together at any point during a menstrual cycle. For it is unclean.
Leviticus 19:19
Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.
Oh, well now. Better check the tag on your shirt. Most of clothing today is made of a cotton/polyester blend.
Does your mother have a garden? If so, better check to make sure different flowers are not planted in the same bed. That is sinful. Did you know that?
Oh and cows that are slaughtered and their meat used at McDonalds, Dairy Queen, Burger King, Etc. Is from a cow which is a hybrid of many different breeds of cattle to produce the best meat.
Hope you haven't eaten there at anytime, ever.
I am going to stop here, as I am not getting a bit off track but because I can honestly go on for hours with information available to me, not only by researching it due to not being ignorant enough to make conclusions based on beliefs or personal opinion but because I took the time to process the information at hand and drew an informed conclusion from it. I suggest you take the time to do so as well.
Quote:If you're going by science, could being homosexual be a mental disorder?
Read this.
Matthew 4:24 ESV
So his fame spread throughout all Syria, and they brought him all the sick, those afflicted with various diseases and pains, those oppressed by demons, epileptics, and paralytics, and he healed them.
Now read this.
Leviticus 21:17
Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.
How were they able to approach him, since they were blemished?
Homosexuality is no more a mental disorder then me liking bacon. I like bacon because of the taste, texture, smell and the fact that its fucking bacon. I like it because I like it.
Homosexual men like homosexual men because they like homosexual men.
Homosexual men like homosexual women because they like homosexual women.
Heterosexual men like heterosexual and in some cases bi-sexual women.
Heterosexual women like heterosexual men and in some cases bi-sexual men.
The difference between these is aesthetic. Love is love, it knows no bounds and considering it a mental disorder is both insulting, narrow minded and ignorant.
Quote:And when atheists are trying to disprove religion and god they use science for their arguments.
That is because if you destroy every known reference to religion and attempt to rewrite it in the future it will never come out the same way.
With science if you did that, people will figure it out again and it will be the same each and every time you do so. Nature is constant. Religion is not.
In closing, this is not meant as being disrespectful to you, it is not meant as being disrespectful to your beliefs as long as you are respectful of mine.
I cannot however respect the limited lack of knowledge and the profound ignorance you have on the subject when making the conclusion you have.
Cheers
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Quote:Originally posted by Wastlund@May 21 2012, 02:13 PM
why should nobody get married? Im going to get married next year and if someone took that right away from me, I'd be pissed.
As for same sex marriage I'm for it, I'm not gay and the religions biggest reason for not want same sex is that it destroys the sanctiny of marriage but yet divorce destroys more marriage then same sex, yet divorce is allowed. So if 2 dudes or 2 girls want to marry then so be it.
the first part was a joke, I thought people would get that right away. FWIW
go get married, I don't give a fuck either way.
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Also I want to point out that places such as Georgia, Alabama and some parts of Texas infamously referred to as the Bible belt have
The highest rate of teen pregnancy .
The highest rate of high school dropouts.
The highest rate of teen marriage.
The highest rate of abortions, including teen abortions.
And
The highest rate of divorce.
So for those out there using the "Homosexuality destroys the sanctity of marriage" I give a resounding, bitch please.
Quote:Originally posted by Joker582@May 22 2012, 05:05 AM
So acting the way you really are offends you. I suppose you don't mind when a girl kisses a guy in the street am I right? That is normal and isn't frowned upon. Do you equally find it creepy when a woman acts masculine? If not then politely take your double standard and well...you know what to do with it.
Not supposed to be? Please tell me you are not serious. There has been enormous amounts of documented cases in nature of certain species of animal engaging in homosexuality. Homosexuality is not unique to the human race and saying what you just did shows your obvious ignorance on the matter.
So to educate you. I suggest you read up on the following links.
Homosexuality is no more a mental disorder then me liking bacon. I like bacon because of the taste, texture, smell and the fact that its fucking bacon. I like it because I like it.
Homosexual men like homosexual men because they like homosexual men.
Homosexual men like homosexual women because they like homosexual women.
Heterosexual men like heterosexual and in some cases bi-sexual women.
Heterosexual women like heterosexual men and in some cases bi-sexual men.
First off, I will skip all the bible stuff because I didnt refer to the bible once in my argument. Thanks for coming out though.
Geeze, do you know how hard this is on a phone?. I'll just keep it short and sweet because I don't want my thumbs to fall off.
Homosexual men like men
Homosexual men like women
Heterosexual men like women
Heterosexual women like men
it doesn't matter what they like sexually. I could go to a gay bar and I'm straight, and there could be guys hitting on me. I could be really into this girl and be like in love with her or something and she's a lesbian.
What I mean about it not being natural is that a penis is meant to go into a vagina. They are meant for it. That's the way you reproduce. That's how it's meant to be. You're not meant, you're not made to slap two vaginas together or stick a dick in an asshole and splooge in there. Lol
And about the first part. I find it kind of weird when a girl goes full on butch but it's mostly just those idiots that prance around acting retarded with their scarves and colorful pants and talk like dumbasses. Like I said, I don't care what you are or what you like, if you act like that we're not going to get a long.
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