Quote: Originally posted by Symmetrik @Jan 24 2018, 03:33 PM
better than all these people getting insanely defensive about who should win an award in a kayfabe hockey league.
Quote: Originally posted by Samee @Jan 24 2018, 07:19 PM
u got me
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LUCAS KAISER || D || MAINE TIMBER || 227 TPE Height: 6'1" Weight: 200 lbs Birthplace: Halifax, Canada Nationality: Germany Age: 18 Number: 83 Shoots: L Playing Style: Mobile Defenseman ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Stats ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions: S56: Signed with the Maine Timber as a Free Agent ------------------------------------------------------------ Contracts: Signed a 1-year, 3M Contract with the Maine Timber Signed a 1-year, 1M Contract with the Maine Timber ------------------------------------------------------------ Awards: Isaac Kaiser || C || RETIRED || Height: 6'2" Weight: 200 lbs Birthplace: Halifax, Canada Age: 44 (18 @ S31 Entry Draft) Number: 48 Shoots: L Playing Style: Offensively Minded Checking Forward [Offensive Forward] ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Stats S30 (HAL): 50 GP | 5 G | 5 A | 10 P | +3 | 23 PIM | S31 (HAL): 50 GP | 7 G | 5 A | 12 P | +3 | 44 PIM | ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Playoff Stats S30 (HAL): 18 GP | 2 G | 9 A | 11 P | +8 | 5 PIM| S31 (HAL): 15 GP | 3 G | 4 A | 7 P | 0 | 4 PIM| ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Stats S32 (POR): 50 GP | 4 G | 2 A | 6 P | -34 | 14 PIM | S33 (POR): 50 GP | 1 G | 3 A | 4 P | -21 | 15 PIM | S34 (HAM): 50 GP | 3 G | 5 A | 8 P | -9 | 21 PIM | S35 (HAM): 50 GP | 7 G | 16 A | 23 P | -9 | 86 PIM | S36 (POR): 50 GP | 11 G | 14 A | 25 P | -12 | 26 PIM | S37 (SFP): 50 GP | 11 G | 17 A | 28 P | -11 | 44 PIM | S38 (SFP): 50 GP | 9 G | 31 A | 40 P | -6 | 48 PIM | S39 (SFP): 50 GP | 13 G | 23 A | 36 P | -8 | 52 PIM | S40 (SFP): 50 GP | 19 G | 22 A | 41 P | -6 | 48 PIM | S41 (NEW): 50 GP | 8 G | 28 A | 36 P | +10 | 29 PIM | S42 (NEW): 50 GP | 9 G | 21 A | 30 P | -19 | 43 PIM | ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Playoff Stats S38 (SFP): 5 GP | 2 G | 1 A | 3 P | -3 | 2 PIM| S42 (NEW): 18 GP | 5 G | 9 A | 14 P | +2 | 7 PIM| ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions: Drafted 19th Overall (3rd Round) in the S30 SMJHL Entry Draft by the Halifax Raiders Drafted 41st Overall (3rd Round) in the S31 SHL Entry Draft by the Buffalo Stampede Rights traded to the Portland Admirals Traded to the Edmonton Blizzard Traded to the Hamilton Steelhawks Free Agent Rights Traded to the Manhattan Rage Free Agent Rights Traded to the Portland Admirals Traded to the New England Wolfpack Announced Retirement in S41 ------------------------------------------------------------ Contracts: Signed 1-year, $1.5M with Halifax Raiders Signed 2-year, $6M with Buffalo Stampede ($3M AAV) Signed 3-year, $9.5M with Portland Admirals ($3.12M AAV) Signed 3-year $13.5M with Portland Admirals ($4.5M AAV) Signed a 3-year, $12M extension with the San Francisco Pride ($4M AAV) Signed a 1-year, $3M extension with the New England Wolfpack ------------------------------------------------------------ Awards: Won the Four Star Cup with the S30 Halifax Raiders Named Alternate Captain for the S31 Halifax Raiders S31 Four Star Cup Runner-Ups 1st SHL Goal Scored Against Timo Haas (LAP) Won a Silver Medal with S34 Team Germany Named Alternate Captain for the S35 Hamilton Steelhawks Won a Gold Medal with S36 Team Germany Named Alternate Captain for the S37 San Francisco Pride Won the President's Trophy with the S38 San Francisco Pride Nominated for the S38 Aidan Richan Trophy Ranked 77th Overall for S39 Best 100 Players Ranked 73rd Overall for S40 Best 100 Players Ranked 62nd Overall for S41 Best 100 Players Ranked 91st Overall for S42 Best 100 Players S42 Challenge Cup Runners-Up
Quote: Originally posted by ztevans @Jan 24 2018, 05:35 PM
Points factor into the Dar Award too and if you want to use the excuse that he shares a line with hitters bumping his hits down than you should also mention he shares a line with some of the premier players in the league - which surely effects his offensive numbers.
No real horse in this fight. If anything conflicted because I played in Vancouver with Bearssy and love him but fuck Winnipeg.
Eryk Siniskaya || Defense || Unsigned || Timo Haas || Goalie || Los Angeles Panthers || Retired/Hall of Fame
ztevans
Quote: Originally posted by Coach Biz @Jan 24 2018, 06:30 PM
But the problem is, we aren't comparing two players two points apart. The examples being mentioned are a good 15, 20 points apart and ignoring two of the three defensive stats Simon T gives to work with just to talk about hitting.
Zach Evans || Forward || Winnipeg Jets Name: Zach Evans Height: 6'1" Weight: 195 lbs Number: 18 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Career Statistics: S32 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 9, A: 5, P: 14, +/-: -1, PIMS: 12, H: 59 S33 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 8, A: 15, P: 23, +/-: 3, PIMS: 49, H: 106 S34 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 14, A: 14, P: 28, +/-: 7, PIMS: 46, H: 96 S35 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 22, A: 26, P: 48, +/-: -4, PIMS: 23, H: 113 S36 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 28, A: 30, P: 58, +/-: 23, PIMS: 51, H: 140 S37 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 24, A: 27, P: 51, +/-: 2, PIMS: 36, H: 220 S38 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 27. A: 38, P: 65, +/-: 12, PIMS: 45, H: 158 S39 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 32, P: 47, +/-: 11, PIMS: 43, H: 85 S40 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 22, A: 31, P: 53, +/-: 11, PIMS: 15, H: 49 S41 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 27, A: 35, P: 62, +/-: 26, PIMS: 34, H: 82 S42 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 29, P: 45, +/-: -3, PIMS: 15, H: 6 S43 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 29, P: 45, +/-: 11, PIMS: 27, H: 15 S44 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 14, A: 31, P: 45, +/-: 3, PIMS: 17, H: 17 S45 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 34, P: 49, +/-: 4, PIMS: 2, H: 27 CAREER: GP: 700, G: 257, A: 376, P: 633, +/-: 105, PIMS: 415, H: 1,173 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Playoff Statistics: S34 (WPG): GP: 5, G: 2, A: 1, P: 3, +/-: 0, PIMS: 4, H: 7 S36 (WPG): GP: 6, G: 0, A: 3, P: 3, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 16 S37 (WPG): GP: 18, G: 11, A: 14, P: 25, +/-: 19, PIMS: 12, H: 81 S38 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 6, A: 9, P: 15, +/-: 5, PIMS: 4, H: 32 S39 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 5, A: 6, P: 11, +/-: -2, PIMS: 6, H: 31 S40 (WPG): GP: 14, G: 5, A: 4, P: 9, +/-: 1, PIMS: 13, H: 7 S41 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 8, A: 6, P: 14, +/-: 3, PIMS: 9, H: 26 S43 (WPG): GP: 17, G: 4, A: 9, P: 13, +/-: 11, PIMS: 2, H: 4 S44 (WPG): GP: 18, G: 4, A: 15, P: 19, +/-: 7, PIMS: 0, H: 3 S45 (WPG): GP: 4, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 2 CAREER: GP: 121, G: 46, A: 69, P: 115, +/-: 41, PIMS: 50, H: 209 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Career Statistics: S30 (DET): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 12, P: 28, +/-: 8, PIMS: 10, H: 44 S31 (DET): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 23, P: 38, +/-: -2, PIMS: 35, H: 84 CAREER: GP: 100, G: 31, A: 35, P: 66, +/-: 6, PIMS: 45, H: 128 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Playoff Statistics: S30 (DET): GP: 5, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -1, PIMS: 2, H: 0 S31 (DET): GP: 13, G: 5, A: 7, P: 12, +/-: 3, PIMS: 0, H: 9 CAREER: GP: 18, G: 5, A: 8, P: 13, +/-: 2, PIMS: 2, H: 9 ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF Statistics (Russia): S30: GP: 11, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 7 S32: GP: 13, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: -4, PIMS: 4, H: 17 S33: GP: 11, G: 3, A: 6, P: 9, +/-: 5, PIMS: 4, H: 12 S34: GP: 11, G: 6, A: 2, P: 8, +/-: 2, PIMS: 2, H: 10 S35: GP: 13, G: 5, A: 4, P: 9, +/-: 4, PIMS: 18, H: 22 S36: GP: 11, G: 4, A: 3, P: 7, +/-: -3, PIMS: 2, H: 5 S37: GP: 10, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: 0, PIMS: 0, H: 8 S38: GP: 13, G: 3, A: 10, P: 13, +/-: 8, PIMS: 4, H: 5 S39: GP: 10, G: 6, A: 6, P: 12, +/-: 1, PIMS: 2, H: 11 S40: GP: 10, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -6, PIMS: 2, H: 8 S41: GP: 11, G: 4, A: 5, P: 9, +/-: 0, PIMS: 2, H: 7 S42: GP: 10, G: 5, A: 9, P: 14, +/-: 5, PIMS: 0, H: 1 S43: GP: 13, G: 4, A: 7, P: 11, +/-: 6, PIMS: 0, H: 0 S44: GP: 10, G: 4, A: 8, P: 12, +/-: 1, PIMS: 0, H: 0 S45: GP: 10, G: 6, A: 1, P: 7, +/-: -13, PIMS: 0, H: 2 CAREER: GP: 167 G: 54, A: 65, P: 119, +/-: 5, PIMS: 40, H: 105 ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions and Awards: Drafted 25th overall by Detroit, S30 SMJHL Entry Draft S30 Vyacheslav Onoprienko Trophy Winner Drafted 5th overall by Winnipeg, S31 SHL Entry Draft S32 Oriens Trophy Winner (Co-GM, Detroit) S32 IIHF Bronze Medalist S36 SHL Second-Team All-Star S37 Challenge Cup Champion S38 Sergei Karpotsov Trophy Winner S38 SHL First-Team All-Star S38 Sarmad Khan Trophy Winner S38 Jeff Dar Trophy Winner S38 Damian Littleton Trophy Winner S38 IIHF Gold Medalist S43 IIHF Silver Medalist S44 Challenge Cup Champion Inducted into SHL Hall of Fame, S47 ------------------------------------------------------------ Two things are infinite. Nikolai Evans || Defenseman || HAM/TBB/TEX Name: Nikolai Evans Height: 6'2" Weight: 210 lbs Number: 19 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Career Statistics: S47 (HAM): GP: 50, G: 1, A: 10, P: 11, +/-: -4, SB: 39, H: 32 S48 (HAM): GP: 50, G: 5, A: 9, P: 14, +/1: 6, SB: 57, H: 37 S49 (TBB): GP: 50, G: 9, A: 14, P: 23, +/-: -22, SB: 78, H: 51 S50 (TBB): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 20, P: 27, +/-: 4, SB: 64, H: 39 CAREER: GP: 200, G: 22, A: 53, P: 75, +/-: -16, SB: 238, H: 159 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Playoff Statistics: S48 (HAM): GP: 5, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -1, SB: 6, H: 3 S49 (TBB): GP: 12, G: 0, A: 5, P: 5, +/-: 0, SB: 20, H: 8 S50 (TBB): GP: 19, G: 5, A: 7, P: 12, +/-: 1, SB: 29, H: 6 CAREER: GP: 36, G: 6, A: 12, P: 18, +/-: 0, SB: 55, H: 17 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Career Statistics: S45 (MTL): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 13, P: 20, +/-: -1, SB: 60, H: 25 S46 (MTL/HFX): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 20, P: 27, +/-: -1, SB: 47, H: 68 CAREER: GP: 100, G: 14, A: 33, P: 47, +/-: -2, SB: 107, H: 93 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Playoff Statistics: S45 (MTL): GP: 6, G: 2, A: 3, P: 5, +/-: -1, SB: 7, H: 4 S46 (HFX): GP: 13, G: 3, A: 2, P: 5, +/-: -4, SB: 18, H: 14 CAREER: GP: 19, G: 5, A: 5, P: 10, +/-: -5, SB: 25, H: 18 ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF Statistics (Russia): S45: GP: 10, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -5, SB: 12, H: 2 S46: GP: 12, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -2, SB: 11, H: 2 S47: GP: 12, G: 2, A: 7, P: 9, +/-: 2, SB: 17, H: 12 S48: GP: 12, G: 2, A: 4, P: 6, +/-: -6, SB: 22, H: 0 S49: GP: 15, G: 6, A: 6, P: 12, +/-: -6, SB: 25, H: 7 CAREER: GP: 61, G: 10, A: 19, P: 29, +/-: -17, SB: 87, H: 23 ------------------------------------------------------------ WJC Statistics: S44 (World): GP: 15, G: 6, A: 7, P: 13, +/-: 8, SB: 18, H: 13 S45 (Russia): GP: 22, G: 2, A: 10, P: 12, +/-: -13, SB: 33, H: 14 S46 (Russia): GP: 28, G: 9, A: 15, P: 23, +/-: 0, SB: 26, H: 14 CAREER: GP: 55, G: 17, A: 32, P: 48, +/-: -5, SB: 77, H: 41 ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions and Awards: Drafted 1st overall by Montreal, S45 SMJHL Entry Draft Drafted 1st overall by Hamilton, S46 SHL Entry Draft Traded to Halifax Raiders during S46 SMJHL season Traded to Tampa Bay Barracuda prior to S49 SHL season S48 Fantasy Global Champion S50 Mathias Chouinard Trophy Winner I'll finish updating this at some point ------------------------------------------------------------ The Russian Prince Zdenko Beranek || Winger || Quebec City Citadelles Name: Zdenko Beranek Height: 5'10" Weight: 175 lbs Number: 27 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Career Statistics: S55 (QCC): GP: 50, G: 6, A: 15, P: 21, +/-: -22, PIMS: 6 S56 (QCC): GP: 50, G: 10, A: 27, P: 37, +/-: 9, PIMS: 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions and Awards: Drafted 1st overall by Quebec City, S55 SMJHL Entry Draft Drafted 18th overall by Seattle, S56 SHL Entry Draft ------------------------------------------------------------ Le Petite Chèvre
ztevans
Quote: Originally posted by InciteHysteria @Jan 24 2018, 06:40 PM
So just nobody on Winnipeg gets awards because they were too good? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'll post the damn screenshots to show I was voting against myself for every award I received a nomination for, but don't be dense.
Zach Evans || Forward || Winnipeg Jets Name: Zach Evans Height: 6'1" Weight: 195 lbs Number: 18 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Career Statistics: S32 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 9, A: 5, P: 14, +/-: -1, PIMS: 12, H: 59 S33 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 8, A: 15, P: 23, +/-: 3, PIMS: 49, H: 106 S34 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 14, A: 14, P: 28, +/-: 7, PIMS: 46, H: 96 S35 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 22, A: 26, P: 48, +/-: -4, PIMS: 23, H: 113 S36 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 28, A: 30, P: 58, +/-: 23, PIMS: 51, H: 140 S37 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 24, A: 27, P: 51, +/-: 2, PIMS: 36, H: 220 S38 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 27. A: 38, P: 65, +/-: 12, PIMS: 45, H: 158 S39 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 32, P: 47, +/-: 11, PIMS: 43, H: 85 S40 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 22, A: 31, P: 53, +/-: 11, PIMS: 15, H: 49 S41 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 27, A: 35, P: 62, +/-: 26, PIMS: 34, H: 82 S42 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 29, P: 45, +/-: -3, PIMS: 15, H: 6 S43 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 29, P: 45, +/-: 11, PIMS: 27, H: 15 S44 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 14, A: 31, P: 45, +/-: 3, PIMS: 17, H: 17 S45 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 34, P: 49, +/-: 4, PIMS: 2, H: 27 CAREER: GP: 700, G: 257, A: 376, P: 633, +/-: 105, PIMS: 415, H: 1,173 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Playoff Statistics: S34 (WPG): GP: 5, G: 2, A: 1, P: 3, +/-: 0, PIMS: 4, H: 7 S36 (WPG): GP: 6, G: 0, A: 3, P: 3, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 16 S37 (WPG): GP: 18, G: 11, A: 14, P: 25, +/-: 19, PIMS: 12, H: 81 S38 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 6, A: 9, P: 15, +/-: 5, PIMS: 4, H: 32 S39 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 5, A: 6, P: 11, +/-: -2, PIMS: 6, H: 31 S40 (WPG): GP: 14, G: 5, A: 4, P: 9, +/-: 1, PIMS: 13, H: 7 S41 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 8, A: 6, P: 14, +/-: 3, PIMS: 9, H: 26 S43 (WPG): GP: 17, G: 4, A: 9, P: 13, +/-: 11, PIMS: 2, H: 4 S44 (WPG): GP: 18, G: 4, A: 15, P: 19, +/-: 7, PIMS: 0, H: 3 S45 (WPG): GP: 4, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 2 CAREER: GP: 121, G: 46, A: 69, P: 115, +/-: 41, PIMS: 50, H: 209 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Career Statistics: S30 (DET): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 12, P: 28, +/-: 8, PIMS: 10, H: 44 S31 (DET): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 23, P: 38, +/-: -2, PIMS: 35, H: 84 CAREER: GP: 100, G: 31, A: 35, P: 66, +/-: 6, PIMS: 45, H: 128 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Playoff Statistics: S30 (DET): GP: 5, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -1, PIMS: 2, H: 0 S31 (DET): GP: 13, G: 5, A: 7, P: 12, +/-: 3, PIMS: 0, H: 9 CAREER: GP: 18, G: 5, A: 8, P: 13, +/-: 2, PIMS: 2, H: 9 ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF Statistics (Russia): S30: GP: 11, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 7 S32: GP: 13, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: -4, PIMS: 4, H: 17 S33: GP: 11, G: 3, A: 6, P: 9, +/-: 5, PIMS: 4, H: 12 S34: GP: 11, G: 6, A: 2, P: 8, +/-: 2, PIMS: 2, H: 10 S35: GP: 13, G: 5, A: 4, P: 9, +/-: 4, PIMS: 18, H: 22 S36: GP: 11, G: 4, A: 3, P: 7, +/-: -3, PIMS: 2, H: 5 S37: GP: 10, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: 0, PIMS: 0, H: 8 S38: GP: 13, G: 3, A: 10, P: 13, +/-: 8, PIMS: 4, H: 5 S39: GP: 10, G: 6, A: 6, P: 12, +/-: 1, PIMS: 2, H: 11 S40: GP: 10, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -6, PIMS: 2, H: 8 S41: GP: 11, G: 4, A: 5, P: 9, +/-: 0, PIMS: 2, H: 7 S42: GP: 10, G: 5, A: 9, P: 14, +/-: 5, PIMS: 0, H: 1 S43: GP: 13, G: 4, A: 7, P: 11, +/-: 6, PIMS: 0, H: 0 S44: GP: 10, G: 4, A: 8, P: 12, +/-: 1, PIMS: 0, H: 0 S45: GP: 10, G: 6, A: 1, P: 7, +/-: -13, PIMS: 0, H: 2 CAREER: GP: 167 G: 54, A: 65, P: 119, +/-: 5, PIMS: 40, H: 105 ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions and Awards: Drafted 25th overall by Detroit, S30 SMJHL Entry Draft S30 Vyacheslav Onoprienko Trophy Winner Drafted 5th overall by Winnipeg, S31 SHL Entry Draft S32 Oriens Trophy Winner (Co-GM, Detroit) S32 IIHF Bronze Medalist S36 SHL Second-Team All-Star S37 Challenge Cup Champion S38 Sergei Karpotsov Trophy Winner S38 SHL First-Team All-Star S38 Sarmad Khan Trophy Winner S38 Jeff Dar Trophy Winner S38 Damian Littleton Trophy Winner S38 IIHF Gold Medalist S43 IIHF Silver Medalist S44 Challenge Cup Champion Inducted into SHL Hall of Fame, S47 ------------------------------------------------------------ Two things are infinite. Nikolai Evans || Defenseman || HAM/TBB/TEX Name: Nikolai Evans Height: 6'2" Weight: 210 lbs Number: 19 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Career Statistics: S47 (HAM): GP: 50, G: 1, A: 10, P: 11, +/-: -4, SB: 39, H: 32 S48 (HAM): GP: 50, G: 5, A: 9, P: 14, +/1: 6, SB: 57, H: 37 S49 (TBB): GP: 50, G: 9, A: 14, P: 23, +/-: -22, SB: 78, H: 51 S50 (TBB): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 20, P: 27, +/-: 4, SB: 64, H: 39 CAREER: GP: 200, G: 22, A: 53, P: 75, +/-: -16, SB: 238, H: 159 ------------------------------------------------------------ SHL Playoff Statistics: S48 (HAM): GP: 5, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -1, SB: 6, H: 3 S49 (TBB): GP: 12, G: 0, A: 5, P: 5, +/-: 0, SB: 20, H: 8 S50 (TBB): GP: 19, G: 5, A: 7, P: 12, +/-: 1, SB: 29, H: 6 CAREER: GP: 36, G: 6, A: 12, P: 18, +/-: 0, SB: 55, H: 17 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Career Statistics: S45 (MTL): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 13, P: 20, +/-: -1, SB: 60, H: 25 S46 (MTL/HFX): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 20, P: 27, +/-: -1, SB: 47, H: 68 CAREER: GP: 100, G: 14, A: 33, P: 47, +/-: -2, SB: 107, H: 93 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Playoff Statistics: S45 (MTL): GP: 6, G: 2, A: 3, P: 5, +/-: -1, SB: 7, H: 4 S46 (HFX): GP: 13, G: 3, A: 2, P: 5, +/-: -4, SB: 18, H: 14 CAREER: GP: 19, G: 5, A: 5, P: 10, +/-: -5, SB: 25, H: 18 ------------------------------------------------------------ IIHF Statistics (Russia): S45: GP: 10, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -5, SB: 12, H: 2 S46: GP: 12, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -2, SB: 11, H: 2 S47: GP: 12, G: 2, A: 7, P: 9, +/-: 2, SB: 17, H: 12 S48: GP: 12, G: 2, A: 4, P: 6, +/-: -6, SB: 22, H: 0 S49: GP: 15, G: 6, A: 6, P: 12, +/-: -6, SB: 25, H: 7 CAREER: GP: 61, G: 10, A: 19, P: 29, +/-: -17, SB: 87, H: 23 ------------------------------------------------------------ WJC Statistics: S44 (World): GP: 15, G: 6, A: 7, P: 13, +/-: 8, SB: 18, H: 13 S45 (Russia): GP: 22, G: 2, A: 10, P: 12, +/-: -13, SB: 33, H: 14 S46 (Russia): GP: 28, G: 9, A: 15, P: 23, +/-: 0, SB: 26, H: 14 CAREER: GP: 55, G: 17, A: 32, P: 48, +/-: -5, SB: 77, H: 41 ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions and Awards: Drafted 1st overall by Montreal, S45 SMJHL Entry Draft Drafted 1st overall by Hamilton, S46 SHL Entry Draft Traded to Halifax Raiders during S46 SMJHL season Traded to Tampa Bay Barracuda prior to S49 SHL season S48 Fantasy Global Champion S50 Mathias Chouinard Trophy Winner I'll finish updating this at some point ------------------------------------------------------------ The Russian Prince Zdenko Beranek || Winger || Quebec City Citadelles Name: Zdenko Beranek Height: 5'10" Weight: 175 lbs Number: 27 ------------------------------------------------------------ SMJHL Career Statistics: S55 (QCC): GP: 50, G: 6, A: 15, P: 21, +/-: -22, PIMS: 6 S56 (QCC): GP: 50, G: 10, A: 27, P: 37, +/-: 9, PIMS: 20 ------------------------------------------------------------ Transactions and Awards: Drafted 1st overall by Quebec City, S55 SMJHL Entry Draft Drafted 18th overall by Seattle, S56 SHL Entry Draft ------------------------------------------------------------ Le Petite Chèvre
Ghost
Quote: Originally posted by Symmetrik @Jan 24 2018, 04:07 PMBearss' 66 hits and 36% faceoffs is great 2 way play lol
You’re always so fucken salty at the awards show, reflects poorly on Toronto. If you’re that passionate about it then join the committee where you can have a say. Stop bashing the nominees when they didn’t have a say in the matter
There will always be controversial choices no matter what award it is.
There will also always be some sort of bias when voting for certain award.
stop getting your panties in a bunch or you should just go away from your own life.
.bojo
sarmo
When they say let the guys who deserve it get recognition, then shit on people who think some one else desereved it as well.
People can speak up if they want. Especially when they have the stats to back it up.
I love when people just say things to try and sound snide
Lol bigots
Eggy216
Quote: Originally posted by Beaujeaux @Jan 24 2018, 07:53 PMLIFE
<a href='index.php?showuser=1929' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-14'>SwegKingu</a> pls help
sash
Quote: Originally posted by Symmetrik @Jan 24 2018, 06:33 PM
LMAO
Symmetrik
Quote: Originally posted by ztevans @Jan 24 2018, 06:35 PM
I had small hopes for being nommed but really didn't believe I'd get it. There were lots of good options that were better than me. Bearss wasn't one of them.
Quote: To answer to your fixation on hits, Bearss, unlike Kurczewski and Redding and 90% of the players in the league, actually shared a line with hitters. Just like you said +/- can be affected, so is hitting in Simon T. Joe and Ace were both winged by 40 checkers, while Bearss was 63 checking to Volkova's 70+ (it changed throughout the season).
So Bearss let his linemates do the work while he coasted, is what you're saying? A 2 way player - or more accurately - a 200 foot player. That means going in on the forecheck (hitting), and coming back on the back check (hitting). Especially for a winger, he should be leading the forecheck, instead he just kind of hangs on the perimeter. In any given game there was about 1 thing Bearss would do defensively. He'd get 1 hit a game and about a 50% chance of getting a shot block, and lose a few faceoffs.
Quote: Add in, again, 24 shot blocks, just to really drive that point home, on a team that didn't give up a ton of shots, and the 64 points (it is two-way forward, not strictly defensive forward which differentiates it from the Selke) and I don't think it's really as bad as you make it out to be
Drive home the point that there were multiple other forwards with 20+ SB. Why weren't they nommed? Selke is also about 2 way forwards, it takes into account points - always does - but it also realizes that that's a lesser stat in this category. Lundberg only had 42 points. Points isn't the end all be all and just because someone had a lot shouldn't put them in consideration for this award alone. A lot of points is good but it's more important to also have good stats in the defensive categories.
For the record, some history on the Selke:
- Last time a winger won was 02/03 (Jere Lehtinen)
- Last time someone with more than 1 PPG won was 2008/09 (Pavel Datsyuk)
-Toews had exactly PPG in the lockout shortened season.
- Of the 39 times awarded, a winger has won 11 times (including the first 4)
- Kris Draper in 2003/04 was the last time a player won with less than 50 points (not counting the lockout shortened season)
They care about points, it's why 3rd and 4th line PK specialists don't win. But it's about playing both ends of the ice, and largely about taking possession from the other team. Faceoffs, takeaways, etc.
I get it, he's your teammate. But we have basically every other award for rewarding points. We have all star teams to award points. He got this nom on points, and playing for the "hot" team right now. It's why Volkova is a 1st team all star and Visser made the teams over Eriksson or Otto.
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Quote: Originally posted by sarmo @Jan 24 2018, 03:55 PMWhen they say let the guys who deserve it get recognition, then shit on people who think some one else desereved it as well.
I agree with this. People should be able to discuss who is more deserving of what award in a civil manner.
There's too much salt in this thread. Including the post I'm quoting.
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Let's just give Bennett Jones every award, and call it a night.
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