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ErM · 04-27-2018, 04:35 PM

PBP Guidelines

The Basics
PBPs are for finals only.
Payout will be 5 TPE for completing a PBP with a potential bonus up to 3 TPE.
Games must be accepted after 4 hours and started within 12.
At minimum, a PBP should be completed in a reasonable time and highlight the exciting moments of a game. PBPs should not be made up solely of exact copy/paste jobs or screen shots of the game index.

PBP Claims
PBP Claims will be done in FOUR groups: SMJHL Morning, SMJHL Evening, SHL Morning, SHL Evening.
You may sign up for ONE draw by posting in the thread with what draw you’d like to be included in. If multiple posts are made your most recent post will be considered your sign up.
A random lottery will be publically streamed for each group. All 14 possible games will be assigned at this time. In addition, two alternates will be drawn for each time slot (Mornings, Evenings) to replace anyone who does not accept or start their PBP on time.

PBP Trades
PBP’s may be traded between two players that both have PBPs in the same season. For a trade to be official BOTH members must confirm with the PBP director.

PBP Alternate Process
The alternates will be contacted via the in-game message system about the opening, the first to reply will receive the game. If neither alternate is available or they do not reply within FOUR hours, the game will be made available publicly via the forums where the first person to reply to the thread, that has not already completed a PBP that season will receive the game.
If someone who has rights to a future game that is not guaranteed at the time of the “free claim”, they may claim the earlier game. Their future game will go through the same PBP alternate process.

Bonus TPE
Everyone that does a PBP can earn 3 bonus TPE. This TPE will be awarded as follows:
+1 TPE for finishing the PBP in a reasonable time
+1 TPE for adding something extra to the PBP (personal commentary, gifs, images, etc)
+1 TPE for if the viewers enjoyed it (as shown in pre-PBP poll: “Did you like this PBP?”, thread activity, comments, etc.)

PBP Penalties
If you do not accept your PBP within FOUR hours by telling the PBP director in a PM on discord or the forums, you will lose your game. No exceptions.
If you do not begin your PBP within TWELVE hours from when you were SENT the message to accept, you will lose your game. No exceptions.
Everyone will have ONE freebie to fail to meet the PBP criteria. You will receive a warning on the forums. If you fail to meet the PBP criteria twice you will be excluded from the PBP lottery for the next season. Cases of a third offense will be dealt with on a case by case basis with the HO’s input.

Monetary Bonuses
The three best PBPs will be awarded bonuses of five, three, and one million.
To qualify for these bonuses you MUST receive all three bonus TPE.
The best PBPs will be determined based on creativity, building anticipation, entertainment, and effort (judged by original content word count, images, etc.) and voted on by everyone who completed a PBP this season and the PBP director. The PBP director will send a list of PBPs that met the 3 TPE requirement and a poll to all PBPers to rate all of the PBPs with the top 3 earning monetary bonuses.

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This is where I am starting with the PBPs. I've run it past a few people and made some tweaks and willing to hear out what others think. I would love for somebody to give me a better way to hand out monetary bonuses fairly, but this is the best I have come up with for the moment.

It would probably good to define "reasonable time." I am thinking a PBP should be finished FOUR hours after it starts. This means you have a maximum of 16 hours from when you're sent the index to finish your PBP. Does this seem reasonable to everyone? Does anybody anticipate a PBP taking MORE than FOUR hours and not being complete garbage?

I will also post the first PBP claim thread shortly.

***Wally*** · 04-27-2018, 04:39 PM

Doing the work man... love the changes.

caltroit_red_flames · 04-27-2018, 04:41 PM

Quote:PBPs are for finals only.

PBP's only being in the finals would make it possible for only 4 people to get to do a PBP during a whole post season. I think that's a very low number and would like to have this discussed. What is the reason for this change? How does it benefit the users of this site? I think the lack of opportunities outweigh any benefits that could gained from changing the minimum number of possible PBPs to this low of a number, but I'd like to hear what HO and other users have to say about this before taking a stand on it.

ErM · 04-27-2018, 04:44 PM

Quote:Originally posted by caltroit_red_flames@Apr 27 2018, 12:41 PM

PBP's only being in the finals would make it possible for only 4 people to get to do a PBP during a whole post season. I think that's a very low number and would like to have this discussed. What is the reason for this change? How does it benefit the users of this site? I think the lack of opportunities outweigh any benefits that could gained from changing the minimum number of possible PBPs to this low of a number, but I'd like to hear what HO and other users have to say about this before taking a stand on it.

That was a decision made by the head office. In their post they said "And of course, PbPs only for the finals. We talked about doing PbPs for all elimination games only (essentially only a change for the finals), but in the end the finals should be the biggest moment, the climax, of every season. So we've gone this route, to give the four teams competing for their respective moments every chance to shine in the spotlight."

Edit: There is also a minimum of 8 with the SMJHL.

***Wally*** · 04-27-2018, 04:50 PM

Quote:Originally posted by caltroit_red_flames@Apr 27 2018, 02:41 PM

PBP's only being in the finals would make it possible for only 4 people to get to do a PBP during a whole post season. I think that's a very low number and would like to have this discussed. What is the reason for this change? How does it benefit the users of this site? I think the lack of opportunities outweigh any benefits that could gained from changing the minimum number of possible PBPs to this low of a number, but I'd like to hear what HO and other users have to say about this before taking a stand on it.

And the flow of these playoffs has been majestical.

caltroit_red_flames · 04-27-2018, 04:51 PM

Quote:Originally posted by ErM@Apr 27 2018, 03:44 PM

That was a decision made by the head office. In their post they said "And of course, PbPs only for the finals. We talked about doing PbPs for all elimination games only (essentially only a change for the finals), but in the end the finals should be the biggest moment, the climax, of every season. So we've gone this route, to give the four teams competing for their respective moments every chance to shine in the spotlight."

This isn't an idea I disagree with, I think it makes sense actually. I think the consequences of this decision make it worth taking another look at elimination games + the finals, or some other option though.

ErM · 04-27-2018, 04:51 PM

Here's the claim thread.

ErM · 04-27-2018, 04:52 PM

Quote:Originally posted by Wally@Apr 27 2018, 12:39 PM
Doing the work man... love the changes.

Thanks man!

Evok · 04-27-2018, 04:53 PM

who was talking about possible lack of transparance about pbp again ? oh yeah i believe it was <a href='index.php?showuser=2958' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-3'>iamslm22</a> ... are you satisfied with this ? i fail to see how this isnt as transparent as possible as Er doesnt make any judgement decision here Wink

love u bb

Clint Eastwood · 04-27-2018, 04:54 PM

Quote:Originally posted by caltroit_red_flames@Apr 27 2018, 03:41 PM

PBP's only being in the finals would make it possible for only 4 people to get to do a PBP during a whole post season. I think that's a very low number and would like to have this discussed. What is the reason for this change? How does it benefit the users of this site? I think the lack of opportunities outweigh any benefits that could gained from changing the minimum number of possible PBPs to this low of a number, but I'd like to hear what HO and other users have to say about this before taking a stand on it.

You make a good point, but PBPs fucking suck and no one likes them. It is what it is.

ErM · 04-27-2018, 04:57 PM

Quote:Originally posted by ErM@Apr 27 2018, 12:35 PM
[b]PBP Guidelines

It would probably good to define "reasonable time." I am thinking a PBP should be finished FOUR hours after it starts. This means you have a maximum of 16 hours from when you're sent the index to finish your PBP. Does this seem reasonable to everyone? Does anybody anticipate a PBP taking MORE than FOUR hours and not being complete garbage?

I'd like to get input on this if people disagree.

caltroit_red_flames · 04-27-2018, 04:58 PM

Quote:Originally posted by Clint Eastwood@Apr 27 2018, 03:54 PM

You make a good point, but PBPs fucking suck and no one likes them. It is what it is.

I hope you're right, but my guess is there is going a lot of people who wish they had been able to do a PBP that lose out of the lottery.

Evok · 04-27-2018, 04:59 PM

Quote:Originally posted by ErM@Apr 27 2018, 03:35 PM
It would probably good to define "reasonable time." I am thinking a PBP should be finished FOUR hours after it starts. This means you have a maximum of 16 hours from when you're sent the index to finish your PBP. Does this seem reasonable to everyone? Does anybody anticipate a PBP taking MORE than FOUR hours and not being complete garbage?

For me 4h sound good. in 12h you either have time to prewrite it so it's decent or if you write it on the fly it's enought to do it. to have been pbp director, i've seen complain about users being too slow and that was pretty much over a time limit of 4h. (heck we might be generous with that too)

ml002 · 04-27-2018, 05:00 PM

<a href='index.php?showuser=2766' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-45'>ErM</a> so maybe I'm just being dense, but what's the difference between the morning and evening designation? Is it when the sim will occur? That's what I'm assuming but just want to clarify

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ErM · 04-27-2018, 05:02 PM

Quote:Originally posted by ml002@Apr 27 2018, 01:00 PM
<a href='index.php?showuser=2766' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-45'>ErM</a> so maybe I'm just being dense, but what's the difference between the morning and evening designation? Is it when the sim will occur? That's what I'm assuming but just want to clarify

It's when the sims occur. I don't think there's a set time they're done? But there should be a good 12-ish hour difference between the two.

So the morning sim will be sent to you sometime in the morning for you to accept, the evening will be sent to you in the evening.

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