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The great NEW/SEA shitshow saga of S41
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Quote:Originally posted by Cynthia@May 7 2018, 09:57 PM
This is a case where someone should have covered their own ass instead of expecting that everyone is gonna be nice.

By what? Drafting himself earlier and passing up a chance to draft two solid prospects in the first round?

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#17

NEW are a bunch of petty fuckheads looking for attention.
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#18

but was this move not to grab a good pick from seattle in maybe.... a reddit draft?

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Quote:Originally posted by Coach Biz@May 7 2018, 10:00 PM


Scarecrows got yoked too... they lost a top 6 forward this season.

Okay, I don't feel bad about this part.

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Quote:Originally posted by Coach Biz@May 7 2018, 08:00 PM


Scarecrows got yoked too... they lost a top 6 forward this season.


I thought Eggy wasn't the GM any more

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also since this also hurts STL, im skipping the SMJHL draft to sign there. lu joe
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Quote:Originally posted by Coach Biz@May 7 2018, 10:00 PM


Scarecrows got yoked too... they lost a top 6 forward this season.


Yeahthat


Eggy steps down and NEW basically blows the reputation that he built immediately. Whateves.

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#23

Imagine trading your franchise player (weakening your team) and a 1st round pick (again, your team is now weaker without the afformentioned player) for a very good prospect, an attempt at a meme, and another pick

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Quote:Originally posted by ztevans@May 7 2018, 07:00 PM


By what? Drafting himself earlier and passing up a chance to draft two solid prospects in the first round?
My opinion comes from the fact that this has happened before where someone has refused to sign to anyone but a specific team/threaten retirement and they still get drafted anyway. Sure, I admit both teams, especially NEW, lose this deal since they gain nothing and NEW loses a pick, but ANYONE should realize the possibility of their situation and adjust accordingly

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Okay my two cents here, both sides are a bit at fault, but I really don't see how you can defend NEW's stance on this matter at all. Samee was playing fast and loose with a rule he could obviously get burned by, and sure that may be a little bit his fault at the end of the day.

BUT, it's not NEW's job to teach Samee a lesson, and they literally earn nothing from this besides looking like a bunch of dicks, throwing away 17OA (multiple good, active players still on the board after Samee), and burn a bridge with a team that was willing to play ball and trade like Zach mentioned above. There was nothing to gain from this save for a cheap laugh that comes at the expense of a site member who is polarizing. If this happens to someone not named Samee, I'm sure the reaction would be much less 50/50.

Regardless like I said, both parties are somewhat to blame for this, but at the end of the day NEW really only did this to be assholes and take on some instructional job they weren't meant to do. Its very apparent this came at no benefit to them, and its really hard to look at this decision and justify it just by saying it was to "send a message". Bear in mind we're all laughing at the fact that an active, and contributing member of the site just had 2 months of his time wasted, and then bitch about player retention on here.

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Quote:Originally posted by Cynthia@May 7 2018, 10:04 PM

My opinion comes from the fact that this has happened before where someone has refused to sign to anyone but a specific team/threaten retirement and they still get drafted anyway. Sure, I admit both teams, especially NEW, lose this deal since they gain nothing and NEW loses a pick, but ANYONE should realize the possibility of their situation and adjust accordingly

He did adjust accordingly. He made the picks to benefit his team, and told anyone who didn't play ball he'd retire. New England called his bluff. He wasn't bluffing. I'm not sure what more you expect him to do within the current ruleset (which, like, can we talk about that? Because all of this is dumb as fuck)

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Quote:Originally posted by ztevans@May 7 2018, 10:02 PM


Okay, I don't feel bad about this part.

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/shrug

I mean, i'd say the same thing if roles reversed hahaha

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Could the samee thing happen next draft if he recreates?

But that's just a stupid thing to do and should have just left the player alone

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Quote:Originally posted by JKortesi81@May 7 2018, 10:07 PM



/shrug

I mean, i'd say the same thing if roles reversed hahaha

I wouldn't expect anything less. Now go lose a championship to Cooter Bigsby.

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Quote:Originally posted by NourFFAK@May 7 2018, 11:06 PM
Okay my two cents here, both sides are a bit at fault, but I really don't see how you can defend NEW's stance on this matter at all. Samee was playing fast and loose with a rule he could obviously get burned by, and sure that may be a little bit his fault at the end of the day.

BUT, it's not NEW's job to teach Samee a lesson, and they literally earn nothing from this besides looking like a bunch of dicks, throwing away 17OA (multiple good, active players still on the board after Samee), and burn a bridge with a team that was willing to play ball and trade like Zach mentioned above. There was nothing to gain from this save for a cheap laugh that comes at the expense of a site member who is polarizing. If this happens to someone not named Samee, I'm sure the reaction would be much less 50/50.

Regardless like I said, both parties are somewhat to blame for this, but at the end of the day NEW really only did this to be assholes and take on some instructional job they weren't meant to do. Its very apparent this came at no benefit to them, and its really hard to look at this decision and justify it just by saying it was to "send a message". Bear in mind we're all laughing at the fact that an active, and contributing member of the site just had 2 months of his time wasted, and then bitch about player retention on here.


there had to be the thinking that Elias wouldnt retire... and they would add picks from a deeper draft... similar to the thinking that edmonton had back in 35 when they drafted spitfire and quickly traded them to NE.... no?

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