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***golden_apricot*** · 02-02-2021, 02:16 PM

02-02-2021, 02:15 PMTnlAstatine Wrote:
02-02-2021, 02:12 PMgolden_apricot Wrote: can i come?

is this tampering??

Wasty · 02-02-2021, 02:16 PM

02-02-2021, 02:15 PMKachur Wrote:
02-02-2021, 02:12 PMWasty Wrote: that’s pretty personal IMO

then report me

why? Seems kinda like a weak thing to do.

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~~Kachur~~ · 02-02-2021, 02:16 PM

also you are all welcome for one of the most popping and active threads in a while.

~~Kachur~~ · 02-02-2021, 02:17 PM

02-02-2021, 02:16 PMWasty Wrote:
02-02-2021, 02:15 PMKachur Wrote: then report me
why? Seems kinda like a weak thing to do.

Bitch

TnlAstatine · 02-02-2021, 02:19 PM

he had us in the first half ngl

SlashACM · 02-02-2021, 02:20 PM

02-02-2021, 02:12 PMPremierBromanov Wrote:
02-02-2021, 01:27 PMSlashACM Wrote: Bros this is good discussion but the harassment in question is a fucking dabbing gnome discord react. Like the weight of this whole thing is being made far far worse than the actual offense

Slash i gotta disagree. You guys know it doesn't matter how minor something is. When it's constant, it creates an environment you don't want to be in. This is middle-school tier bullshit. It's like if every time you walked down the hall a few kids yelled "SHOES" at you and then pointed at your shoes. Like yeah, its minor, it doesn't mean anything. And if it didn't bother the kid, then it's harmless.

The issue is that, based on what i've heard, they were asked to stop. And they didn't. And the result of that was someone felt like they didn't want to be part of this community, and how is that not fucking sad?

I don't see what's so difficult about the concept of consent to some of you.

Ribbing is cool, that's just how some people choose to be. In every LR I've been in, there's a fair amount of ribbing, not the least of which is coming from me. But when people ask me to stop, I stop. Because after that, we're not having fun together. After that, it's having fun at someone else's expense.

I literally does not matter how minor the harassment is, or if it's "just annoying" or "just a react". Again, we learned this shit in middle school. It is baffling how this has to be explained to actual full grown adults.

Now yes, everyone here can now produce Comedy Gold™ by saying "omg I'm harassed" at every negative response to their posts, because they have the mental maturity of an 8th grader and the reasoning skills of a drunk toddler. Come the fuck on. You know what you're doing.

We all know where the line is. Some of us don't, that's where HO steps in. Behold, the new line. Don't be an asshole to people and you'll be fine. It's really that simple.

Here is how I understand the situation.

Ragnar says "good luck to draftees. *Dab emote*"

Kachur says "don't dab we aren't 12"

Ragnar proceeds to use the dab emote an undetermined amount of times (I'm not in shl general and can't go to see the situation)

My biggest problem is that HO decided the outcome to be a WEEK LONG FORUM BAN. Yes people can act like middle schoolers. You all say grow up but this site of full of immature people and bloos is like 3 years old too. It is not against the rules to be immature, targeted harassment is against the rules and I'm mainly pissed off at this incredibly weak definition of harassment. Kachur literally said not long ago that astatine is a fucking idiot which is 10x more targeted harassment than ragnar's actions.

This compounds with the GM punishment which I will not get into in this reply but this is suck weak shit from HO and you know what? Yeah I'm gonna fight it. We as users deserve better

~~Kachur~~ · 02-02-2021, 02:21 PM

02-02-2021, 02:20 PMSlashACM Wrote:
02-02-2021, 02:12 PMPremierBromanov Wrote: Slash i gotta disagree. You guys know it doesn't matter how minor something is. When it's constant, it creates an environment you don't want to be in. This is middle-school tier bullshit. It's like if every time you walked down the hall a few kids yelled "SHOES" at you and then pointed at your shoes. Like yeah, its minor, it doesn't mean anything. And if it didn't bother the kid, then it's harmless.

The issue is that, based on what i've heard, they were asked to stop. And they didn't. And the result of that was someone felt like they didn't want to be part of this community, and how is that not fucking sad?

I don't see what's so difficult about the concept of consent to some of you.

Ribbing is cool, that's just how some people choose to be. In every LR I've been in, there's a fair amount of ribbing, not the least of which is coming from me. But when people ask me to stop, I stop. Because after that, we're not having fun together. After that, it's having fun at someone else's expense.

I literally does not matter how minor the harassment is, or if it's "just annoying" or "just a react". Again, we learned this shit in middle school. It is baffling how this has to be explained to actual full grown adults.

Now yes, everyone here can now produce Comedy Gold™ by saying "omg I'm harassed" at every negative response to their posts, because they have the mental maturity of an 8th grader and the reasoning skills of a drunk toddler. Come the fuck on. You know what you're doing.

We all know where the line is. Some of us don't, that's where HO steps in. Behold, the new line. Don't be an asshole to people and you'll be fine. It's really that simple.

Here is how I understand the situation.

Ragnar says "good luck to draftees. *Dab emote*"

Kachur says "don't dab we aren't 12"

Ragnar proceeds to use the dab emote an undetermined amount of times (I'm not in shl general and can't go to see the situation)

My biggest problem is that HO decided the outcome to be a WEEK LONG FORUM BAN. Yes people can act like middle schoolers. You all say grow up but this site of full of immature people and bloos is like 3 years old too. It is not against the rules to be immature, targeted harassment is against the rules and I'm mainly pissed off at this incredibly weak definition of harassment. Kachur literally said not long ago that astatine is a fucking idiot which is 10x more targeted harassment than ragnar's actions.

This compounds with the GM punishment which I will not get into in this reply but this is suck weak shit from HO and you know what? Yeah I'm gonna fight it. We as users deserve better

you as users dont deserve anything.

the SHL is here for your convenience. they dont owe you anything. nice try tho

SlashACM · 02-02-2021, 02:23 PM

Can ANYONE here tell me what right Kachur had to tell Ragnar to stop using that emote

GCool · 02-02-2021, 02:23 PM

02-02-2021, 02:19 PMTnlAstatine Wrote: he had us in the first half ngl

I’m sayin, dude.

Not 18 hours ago I was thinking “Rags, cmon, how did you push someone over the edge with a fucking gnome?”

Now, I’m ... torn. Because this is clearly at minimum a misconduct for instigating by the original victim of harassment. It seems less clear than it did before.

While I don’t like the idea of publishing literally everything, because that will dissolve into some perverted form of democracy by the entire forum, I think an arbitration/appeals team that works next to the discipline committee in banning situations like this (that represents the makeup of the site in terms of age, experience, and other demography) would be helpful.

SlashACM · 02-02-2021, 02:23 PM

02-02-2021, 02:21 PMKachur Wrote:
02-02-2021, 02:20 PMSlashACM Wrote: Here is how I understand the situation.

Ragnar says "good luck to draftees. *Dab emote*"

Kachur says "don't dab we aren't 12"

Ragnar proceeds to use the dab emote an undetermined amount of times (I'm not in shl general and can't go to see the situation)

My biggest problem is that HO decided the outcome to be a WEEK LONG FORUM BAN. Yes people can act like middle schoolers. You all say grow up but this site of full of immature people and bloos is like 3 years old too. It is not against the rules to be immature, targeted harassment is against the rules and I'm mainly pissed off at this incredibly weak definition of harassment. Kachur literally said not long ago that astatine is a fucking idiot which is 10x more targeted harassment than ragnar's actions.

This compounds with the GM punishment which I will not get into in this reply but this is suck weak shit from HO and you know what? Yeah I'm gonna fight it. We as users deserve better

you as users dont deserve anything.

the SHL is here for your convenience. they dont owe you anything. nice try tho

So much for done with this circus. Fuck off already

TnlAstatine · 02-02-2021, 02:24 PM

02-02-2021, 02:23 PMSlashACM Wrote: Can ANYONE here tell me what right Kachur had to tell Ragnar to stop using that emote

cause he pretended to be harassed

~~Kachur~~ · 02-02-2021, 02:25 PM

02-02-2021, 02:23 PMSlashACM Wrote: Can ANYONE here tell me what right Kachur had to tell Ragnar to stop using that emote

see this comes down to your original argument of what is considered a joke or not.

i had no right, you are correct. if he had told me that was rude and he was upset i would have appologised.

what right did he have to hunt down EVERY POST i made in the discord and used the emoji on it.

let me answer for you

none

~~Kachur~~ · 02-02-2021, 02:25 PM

02-02-2021, 02:24 PMTnlAstatine Wrote:
02-02-2021, 02:23 PMSlashACM Wrote: Can ANYONE here tell me what right Kachur had to tell Ragnar to stop using that emote

cause he pretended to be harassed

and your parents pretended to love you.

SlashACM · 02-02-2021, 02:26 PM

02-02-2021, 02:24 PMTnlAstatine Wrote:
02-02-2021, 02:23 PMSlashACM Wrote: Can ANYONE here tell me what right Kachur had to tell Ragnar to stop using that emote

cause he pretended to be harassed

Like I gotta sit here and see #leeout in every fuckin thread but this fucking troglodyte sees 3 gnomes and HO delivers the sweet hammer of justice.

This is why you wouldn't catch me dead in the SHL general discord

Weretarantula · 02-02-2021, 02:27 PM

This is fucking stupid

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