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Briedaqueduc · 04-10-2022, 06:52 PM

Written Task: We've all seen the lacrosse goals, the attempts to flick the puck over the back of the net and in-- but these are few and far between. It might even be a stretch to call those things "trick plays." The only actual trick play I can think of off the top of my head is Ted Nolan pulling one over on Team Canada at the 2014 Olympics. That said, you almost never see this kind of thing happen in the NHL. Why not? Is there a lack of creativity in the game? Is it just too complicated without enough payoff? Why do you think we don't see much of this coaching style in hockey, and would you like to see more of it? (150+ words).

Trick plays definitely have their place in hockey. You just do not see them too often because they are very situational and hard to pull off. It is very nice when you see them in the highlight reels, but when a teammate makes your team lose possession to then get scored on because he tried to do a fancy little trick, you suddenly do not like them anymore. These trick plays can really only be pulled off by the best player who practiced them enough to the point that they can instantly do it at any time, otherwise it could very well be detrimental to your team and it will make every fan despise you no matter what other good things you have done in the past. If you cannot pull it off, you kind of look pretty stupid and you become the laughing stock of the entire sport. Just really not worth it, you should spend time on practicing actual basic hockey and make sure you master it.
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Zombiewolf · 04-10-2022, 07:20 PM

I believe a trick play is something tough to pull off on Hockey. One trick play that Jaska Seppala has pitched to his coaches I can think of is the person with the puck gets surrounded by the rest of the team and we all make a bee line to the goal. The trick though is while the one with the puck is in the center and everyone is around them he bends down and quick scoops the puck up and put the puck down his pants. Now because he is hidden nobody will see him put it in his pants and he will just crash into the net. The goalie would be mad confused maybe even run out of the way because of how confused he is and once the player crashes into the net he quickly takes the puck out of his pants and acts like he pucked it into the goal. This would take years to master though. It is not for the weaker players

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mcpumpkin · 04-10-2022, 07:22 PM

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This is a great question and is something I've been thinking about since the whole stupid "THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR SKILLING IT UP YOU LITTLE SHIT" conversation happening between all the stale dusty hockey boomers who have nothing better to do while they drink their twice daily bottle of Ensure through a straw and uncomfortably adjust their adult diapers.
I've wondered whether we'd seen kind of a "peak" in flashy moves in the last few years. Not that creative, bold talent won't attempt these moves, however the gap between making the show and sitting in the press box gets smaller every year. It seems like the story of a previously waived nobody making a great career comeback as a NHL regular, even if at a 4th line / 3rd pairing level, is becoming much more common, and how messing up a flashy, selfish play can easy get you benched to give someone else time to prove themselves as dependable. It felt like the risk to make a bold play was not worth the terror of an angry, old NHL coach, many of which grifted their way into these spots via LE OLD BOYS CLOOB.
The other aspect is the prevalence of social media, and how every little mistake, even if off-camera during the live feed, will be caught somewhere somehow. There's no escaping the judgements of the internet. I believe players are truly afraid of making big, notable mistakes on the ice. I wonder if a player has ever had bigger moments used against them in contract negotiations?

dankoa · 04-10-2022, 07:24 PM

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The reason we don’t see more of those plays coached and drawn up by coaches is they’re really difficult to do effectively, they take someone with incredible skill to pull off, they rely on an element of surprise to be optimally effective and are probably not gonna be worth the effort it’d take to coach someone to do them over a long period of time. All the crazy stuff we’ve seen from Zegras et al in my mind kinda relies on goalies not expecting it at all; they’re always caught totally out of position because they lose the puck as it just doesn’t seem possible for the skater to turn his position into a goal scoring opportunity. If these were regularly coached and encouraged if by some miracle teams were actually able to field a roster with multiple players skilful enough to pull them off, goalies would be a lot more conscious of them and we’d end up seeing a lot less of the attempts being fully converted to a goal.

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*Toast* · 04-10-2022, 07:59 PM

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I think the trick plays are absolutely fine and if a player sees an opportunity to do something creative it should be celebrated for a big highlight. Getting people talking about hockey after a huge moment is great and can draw in some new fans so I'm perfectly fine seeing these lacrosse style goals. What I don't like seeing is the "it doesn't belong in the game" crowd losing their minds online and trying to gatekeep the sport. Was it Arizona commentators that celebrated Zegras getting into a fight over what was assumed for his plays? I don't get that at all. I think elaborate plays are cool and get people talking the moments after and I look forward to more in the future. That makes me wish that there was a good 3D engine for FHM that we could watch play things out for the SHL but that would definitely be a little too complex.

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raymond3000 · 04-10-2022, 08:40 PM

Hockey Prompt

Trick plays are especially hard to pull off in hockey given the free-flowing, rapid, and random nature of the sport where its hard to get the right opportunity to execute the complex maneuvers required in a trick play. You certainly do see set plays in hockey, typically in more controlled situations such as after a faceoff, on the power play, or during a breakout, but even then its hard for any play to last longer than a few passes and I doubt these plays would count as 'trick' plays like the hidden ball trick in baseball or a set corner routine in soccer. However, even if there were a viable trick play at the highest level of hockey, I do think it would take a while for it to actually get implemented in the NHL, given how old school the league and its coaches tend to be. After all, it somehow took until last season for the first Michigan goal to be scored.

***Inf1d3l*** · 04-10-2022, 08:50 PM

I believe that creativity in the league is hard. When you have a group of players at such a high level, being able to trick or confuse anyone is very difficult. The highest level of trickery left is shootouts, where it is one versus one against the goaltender. Both the shooter, and the goalie, have tricks up their sleeves and aren't afraid to use them. Beyond that, players are one note, sometimes two. You can shoot, pass, skate, defend, hit, but not usually all at the same time. Crosby can't hit well, Ovechkin isn't the strongest passer, etc. Then if you try to go all in you end up like Tom Wilson, a player who should be good with his talents, but just ends up being a dirty piece of shit on the ice and no one respects him (rightfully so). It would take a lot of work, commitment, coaching, and practice to be able to pull off any type of trickery in the league these days, but I hope to see it soon.

Trautner · 04-10-2022, 08:58 PM

Michael Scarn has been dreaming up the perfect hockey play for years. Ever since he was a kid, Michael Scarn had ambitions of hitting the ice and scoring the perfect goal. The perfect goal of course requires the perfect pass and the perfect sprint. As a player, Scarn has not had much time to ponder about the perfect play, but now as he ages and thinks about going into coaching after retirement, Michael Scarn has been thinking a lot about drawing up the perfect play. The perfect hockey play in Michael Scarn's eyes starts with a pyramid. On the ice, each team has 5 outfield players during even strength play. However, if you include the goalie, you get 6 on the ice. When on the power play, Michael Scarn's play calls for the goalie to push forwards and be the base center of the pyramid, flanked by two defensemen on the bottom base. Two forwards will go on top and then one skater will be at the very top, with the puck, who will then score from the significant height advantage that has been built.

dogwoodmaple · 04-10-2022, 08:58 PM

HOCKEY PROMPT

Not only do I want to see more trick plays, but I think they should be given a reward when successful. On top of scoring a goal with a trick play, you automatically get to go on the power play for 2 minutes following the first trick play and 5 minutes for every subsequent trick play. To make it even better, you get to pick which player has to leave the ice. For trick plays, I'm talking about sneaky line changes, balancing the puck on your hockey stick and advancing down the ice, allowing one player to wear an eye patch while playing and if they score, it counts as a trick play goal. You could also include things like giving a player a hockey stick the size of a putt-putt putter and if they score, that also counts as a trick play goal. We need some new blood, new ideas, and fresh thinking in hockey and not only will this lead to more excitement, but it will also lead to more goals thanks to the power play rewards. If there's one thing fans love, it's more scoring and more fun. Just think how much the ratings, and as a result our salaries, would increase!

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